Utilizing Talents
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Topic: Utilizing Talents
Posted By: bhikkhu
Subject: Utilizing Talents
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 13:13
I am listenin to "Who's Next" right now, and it occurs to me that Pete Townshend would have made a great prog guitarist. He has a very wide range. I know that some of the Who's work borders on prog anyway, but I was thinking more full blown prog.
This also got me thinking about other talents out there. Which non-prog (or proto) musicians do you think would have been great in prog bands?
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 08:57
I am going to bump this, as I am very intersted to see what others think. If there are still no replies, I will let it die.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 09:31
I think this has been done in the Non-Prog music forum.
Anyways, I think that System of a Down could have been an excellent
Prog Metal band, and surely both Queen and Led Zeppelin were skilled
enough musicians to make prog (as evidenced in Queens earliest albums).
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 09:42
Not just Townsend would've done good in prog, Entwistle had everything to be in a superb prog group as well.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 09:53
bhikkhu wrote:
This also got me thinking about other talents out there. Which non-prog (or proto) musicians do you think would have been great in prog bands? |
Manzarek, Krieger and Densmore, maybe? However, I think the group they belong to IS (was?) a prog(ressive) band. Don't you agree?
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 18:24
Fassbinder wrote:
bhikkhu wrote:
This also got me thinking about other talents out there. Which non-prog (or proto) musicians do you think would have been great in prog bands? |
Manzarek, Krieger and Densmore, maybe? However, I think the group they belong to IS (was?) a prog(ressive) band. Don't you agree? |
I absolutely agree. "The End," "When the Music's Over," "The Unknown Soldier," "The Soft Parade," etc., are prog in my mind. I think it's the bluesier stuff they did that keeps them out.
Oh, and I did a search before starting this thread. It didn't turn up anything.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 18:34
bhikkhu wrote:
Fassbinder wrote:
bhikkhu wrote:
This also got me thinking about other talents out there. Which non-prog (or proto) musicians do you think would have been great in prog bands? |
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Manzarek, Krieger and Densmore, maybe? However, I think the group they belong to IS (was?) a prog(ressive) band. Don't you agree? |
I absolutely agree. "The End," "When the Music's Over," "The Unknown Soldier," "The Soft Parade," etc., are prog in my mind. I think it's the bluesier stuff they did that keeps them out.
Oh, and I did a search before starting this thread. It didn't turn up anything. |
I suspect the "etc." list is much longer and more impressive than the "bluesier stuff" least.
But, after all, there aren't too much reasons to care too much. Don't you have them on your shelf? I'm sure you do, and so do also others who appreciate them.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 18:37
I would rather that all these bands you are talking didn't become prog (except for Queen who just went on to make crap) becuase there sound was what is was, and I would rather just see that sound evolve as it did.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 21:04
The Wizard wrote:
I would rather that all these bands you are talking didn't become prog (except for Queen who just went on to make crap) becuase there sound was what is was, and I would rather just see that sound evolve as it did. |
It wasn't supposed to be about the bands playing prog, but if certain musicians would have been good at it. I too wouldn't change these bands. Maybe an interesting side, or solo, project would have been a cool thing.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 18 2006 at 01:42
I don't know, I believe they used their talents in what they could do better.
The Who are icons of classic rock, do you believe they would have reached the same status as Prog musicians?
Iván
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 18 2006 at 09:53
I think everybody is missing the point. Just let it die.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 21 2006 at 13:45
I believe Townshend is/was more interested in musical theatre - which doesn't make the resulting music prog or being characterised to one other genre of rock - occasionally his compositions subjected to the Who's multi-tracked playing give you prog recordings, e.g. the intrumental sections of Quadraphenia.
Remember Who's Next and a couple subsequent albums picked up the debris of Townshend's demos for The Lifehouse (the follow up to Tommy), which has been performed professional twice: first around 1971 at the Old Vic Theatre (a rough form), and revived in 1999 as a radioplay on BBC Radio 3 (a polished form), both versions were spoken plays with accompanying music (Townshend himself provided the Radio 3 soundtrack).
A 6 CD album The Lifehouse Project was issued in 2000 through Townshend own label, (but I've spotted it is available for a fraction of the original price through Amazon nowadays). The Lifehouse Project box set consists of the BBC Radio recording of the play (2 discs), the 1970/71 demos for The Lifehouse (2 discs) which found their way on to especially Who's Next and Who Are You , an odd recording with chamber orchestra playing Vivaldi and a few Townshend compositions arranged to sound like rococco serious music (apparently an inspiration in 1970), and a 6th disc taken from recordings of a couple gigs made in 1999, covering Lifehouse materials, with the people's favourites from Who's Next (e.g. Won't Get Fooled Again) arranged almost out of recognition but remarkable good all the same.
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