Best Director
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Topic: Best Director
Posted By: Rocktopus
Subject: Best Director
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 10:28
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Not enough options for these: Kieslovski, Brian De Palma, Scorsese, Wim
Wenders, Hal Hartley, Frank Capra, Fritz Lang, Bertolucci, Pasolini,
Robert Bresson, Ridley Scott, Roy Andersson, Billy Wilder, Jacques
Tati, Jenuet & Caro. The list is endless... I tried to be a bit less of a snob than I actually am, so I held my nose and included Spielberg, Lucas and Jackson. It feels very wrong, but I know they have a lot more fans than Robert Bresson. There's atleast 15 directors here worthy of my vote, but I decided to go for Ingmar Bergman. One of the greatest and most important artists of the 20th century with countless classics. My favorite of his so far is Wild Strawberries. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Posted By: Psychedelia
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 10:43
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Peter Jackson has never made a bad film from the comedy gore of Braindead, the perverted puppetry of Meet the Feebles to the epics of Lord of the Rings. He is the best ------------- Another emotional suicide, overdosed on sentiment and pride |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 15:02
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Not very original of me, but Hitchcock is my favorite. Tim Burton and David Fincher (Fight Club, Se7en) are my favorite "modern" directors. Twinpeaks just might be the best tv-program I've ever seen, but some of Lynch's films are not really to my taste. Mulholland Drive was great, though. Good list! ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 15:49
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Kubrick from your list
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 16:11
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There is, of course, a difference between "best" and "favorite." If we are talking "best" - which would mean most influential and/or largest and/or most amazing body of work - then Welles, Hitchcock, Kusosawa, Fellini, possibly Kubrick.
As for "favorite," the above five, plus Spielberg and a couple of others. As well, the absence of both Ridley Scott and Peter Weir is inexcusable.
Peace.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 16:38
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Kubrick/Burton/Gilliam
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 17:18
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I voted Coppola. Apocalypse Now, the Godfather films, and Rocky are excellent examples of why he is such a brilliant director. Especially Apocalypse now, that picture was filmed in a way only Coppola could. Spielberg makes some excellent films too, whether it's War of the Worlds, Minority Report, or Close Encounters of a Third Kind, Spielberg will have some of the most unique camera angles. Honorable mention of Wolfgang Peterson. He makes all types of films, and his work is so different in each film, you can't really say that's his style. -------------  
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 17:46
He-he-he...   
Thanks, Rocktopus!!!
Surely, an obvious... RWF
... ... ...Well, seriously now: Tarkovskij, without a doubt!
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 17:58
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Carlos Saura, Sergej Eisenstein, the brothers Kaurismäki (Aki and
Mika) and Charlie Chaplin are also missing on the list. And I am sure I
could come upm with a lot more names if I hought about it for a moment.
And Chaplin definitely was one of the most influental directors of all
times. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:05
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I really feel that Herzog might not actuella be the best, or even one of them, since many of his best films rely very heavily on the personalities of the actors/people he's doing his documentary on, but at the same time i feel he deserves a vote, if only for the wonderfully creepy atmosphere of Aguirre. (which, arguably, also owns a lot to the energy of kinski as an actor). I could just as easily vote for Von Trier though, i think he's a very.. "prog" director :) |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:31
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I can't, and wouldn't say who is best, and it's a great list aside from
the ones you noted, Spielberg, Lucas, and Jackson. I do think
Jackson's Heavenly Creatures was well-directed. And gotta say I
liked Schindler's List. And THX-1138 is one of my favourite sci-fi
movies (Brazil, Delicatessan, Stalker, 2001 are better still), as is
Close Encounters... Hmm, come to think of it, maybe they do somewhat
deserve to be in such prestigious company. Of your list, my favourite may be Lars von Trier. Or, probably Kubrick actually. My vote could go for Kieslowski, Imamura, or Zhang Yimou. I think I'll choose Zhang Yimou... it was largely because of him that I pursued film studies in the 90's. And Gong Li may have had something to do with it too.  |
Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:35
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Oh, right.. i just remembered who my favourite was, thank you :) Ever since i saw Chungking express i always knew that Wong Kar-Wai would have a special place in my dvd-rack, i just love films with melancholic people looking out over a rainy hong kong at night (or lovesick cops talking to their teddybears..). |
Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:44
Don't know much about directors.. Who directed "Scary Movie"? I vote for him/her..  ------------- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spmiw7.jpg"> 
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:51
I have to say George Lucas, even though all the non-Star Wars stuff he has made is pretty bad. Next would be Wes Anderson followed by Tim Burton, all good. ------------- 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 18:59
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I love Wong Kar-Wai movies... I must admit that his most commercial
hit, in The Mood For Love was my favourite. I almost mentioned
him, I was really absorbed by this director a year or so ago when I was
anticipating 2046. I couldn't wait for it it to hit the cinemas
here (took a long time for its North American release), and so bought a
Hong Kong DVD of it instead. I think it was the flimscore that really appealed to me -- it just worked so well with the images. Must buy some Shigeru Umebayashi music (and Peer Raben and Michael Galasso). A few more directors I like that haven't been mentioned are Peter Greenaway, Lindsay Anderson, Chen Kaige, Bigas Luna, Agnieszka Holland, Juzo Itami, and Volker Schlondorff. And well, I could think of lots. A couple classic directors that really deserves nods are Fritz Lang and Robert Weine. Especially Lang for Metropolis I think. |
Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:04
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Wes Anderson is really interesting, pretty alternative humor.. Probably nothing for someone who'd vote Fellini in this poll, though. Some people think he's trying TOO hard to be alternative, to the point where it's just not funny anymore, but i don't know, the only issue i have with his three latest films are the overusage of 60's rock songs. But then again, iäd probably do the same thing if i were a director - stick all my favourite songs in wherever i could fit them :) |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 19:43
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I always write best on topic, and favorite on poll question. Meaning;
I'm trying to find out whose considered the best by asking for
everyone's personal favorite. On directors missing I'm fine with all suggestions except for Mika Kaurismaki. Don't think he qualifies in this company. But his brother Aki does. Maani: Can't see Weir and Scott being more inexcusable than leaving out any of the ones actually in the poll. They've both (escpecially Scott) made more forgettable films than most directors I've chosen to include imo. I sure thought Fassbinder would have atleast one certain vote, Fassbinder. Tarkovsky's Andrej Rubljov is in my own top ten. He is just as fantastic and important as Bergman. Logan: I saw Ju Dou when I was too young to appreciate it. I've recently seen both Hero and House of Flying Daggers. Both ok, but too much of an pompous overdose of scenographic beauty. I know these are not the films that Zhang Yimou got his reputation from. I love the three Wong Kar-Wai films I've seen. Including Chunking Express. Not as charming, but i thought In the Mood For Love was very beautiful. Here's some more important names not mentioned yet: Quentin Tarantino, Cronenberg, the Coen brothers , Antonioni, Bunuel, Blake Edwards, John Ford, Eric Rohmer, Nicholas Roeg, Jean Cocteau (his version of Beauty and the Beast is stunning). I don't know much about asian movies or directors, so I've probably left out a lot of great names. BTW: I also love Star Wars (old ones), Close Encounters, Heavenly Creatures etc... but still I don't think Lucas, Spielberg or Jackson are among the top 25 best directors ever. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 22:14
I was alrready 20 when I first caught Zhang's work. He earned his directorial reputation, I'd say, with his early ones with Gong Li: Red Sorgum, Ju Dou, Raise the Red Lantern, and The Story of Qiu Ju. His trademark was the "pompous overdose of scenographic beauty" as you put it. That's what really caught my eye with his early films, although he didn't film theThe Story of Qiu Ju like that. He started out as a cinematographer and you can find it in the films he worked on before becoming a director. I find it satisfyingly magnificent. Don't think I'll ever forget the sight of the sorghum blowing in the breeze. I like breaks in action to pause and reflect, and am often more interested in image than plot, so I like stylization. He has quite a few films that aren't like that: Not One Less is a beautiful little story simply told. I actually haven't watched Hero or House of Flying Daggers, since between Chen Kaige'sThe Emperor and the Assassin and Ang Lee's Crouching Tiger, hidden Dragon I felt I'd had enough of that kind of stuff for a while. Ang Lee's Eat Drink Man Woman was far more satisfying for me than Crouching Tiger. As for Wong Kar-Wai, it's not a film I'd recommend to most, but have you seen 2046? It's a quasi-sequel (more that it's related to) to In the Mood For Love. Ashes of Time might be one to watch for for those who enjoy swordplay -- haven't seen it myself yet. Since you reminded me of it, think I'll put on my Cronenberg Videodrome DVD now. Long live the new flesh! Oh, a couple of other prominent Canadian directors to mention are Atom Egoyan and Denys Arcand. Too many great directors from around the world as you recognise -- it rather deserves to be split up by country. Was Satyagit Ray mentioned etc. etc.? |
Rocktopus wrote:Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 22:28
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Where's Peter Greenaway?
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 22:34
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Peter Greenaway would be in the poll if it was possible. Same as with ca. 30 other worthy directors not included.
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 22:42
Anyway, I vote for Peter Greenaway  -------------
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 23:12
I think its nice to have a poll as a start, even if its incomplete. People can point out who they think are missing, so they'll get included that way. If someone writes: Can't believe Eisenstein or Greenaway etc..are not in the poll, its probably just as good recognition as the ones that are included. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 23:32
Lang's best movie is "M - Eine Stadt sucht einen Mörder" ("M - A City Looking for a Murderer") with a fantastic Peter Lorre. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 23:34
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taking the obmission of Sam Peckinpah rather hard hahah... voted other of course... The Wild Bunch...the first and final 15 minutes.... a cinematic classic for all time..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 23:58
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Rocktopus: nothing at all wrong with the way you set it up. It's
a very good starting point. Perhaps later this will lead to 'best
director' polls organised by region, period, and by style/genre.
Could be the thin end of the edge though, this might end up becoming a
progressive cinema site. I must admit that I rarely watch films
anymore. I was so immersed in it at one time that I guess I
burnt-out. BaldFriede: I agree, excellent film, but being a bit of a sci-fi buff I've always had a thing for Metropolis. Rather than reiterating why I consider it to be such a significant film (though not necessarily the best of his), here's a too-sleight post I once wrote about the film at a sci-fi site I used to post at quite a bit http://www.sadgeezer.com/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=37745&highlight=metropolis&sid=c3c5b78cd0ab8d85355484bbaab0e0e7#37745 - (click.) |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 00:10
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Kubrick, then Hitchcock, and Terry Gilliam. Kubrick's vision was just incredible. His films are just stunning, infinitely thought provoking, and very entertaining. Most people know his work from "Spartacus" on, but have you ever seen "Paths of Glory"? It's well worth checking out, and shows that he was always a visionary.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 12:33
I think R. W. Fassbinder is worth some votes, but surely not mine.
From Tarkovsky: besides "Andrej Rubljov" I highly recommend "Solaris" and "Stalker".
But I'm more a liker of certain films rather than directors. That's why Jarmush, for example, hasn't received my vote.
And, there are many directors in the list (and not only) I must acquaint myself with.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 12:41
Stalker is another favorite of mine. I'm also more a liker of films rather than directors. Its just that some directors has more great films than others. Do you mean that Jarmush is more a stylistic director with a strong signature than others? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 12:50
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Rocktopus:
Re Ridley Scott: "forgettable films?!" Hmmm....
The Duellists
Alien
Blade Runner
Legend
Someone to Watch Over Me
Black Rain
Thelma & Louise
1492
White Squall
G.I. Jane
Gladiator
Hannibal
Black Hawk Down
Matchstick Men
Kingdom of Heaven
Of these, only White Squall and G.I. Jane are questionable.
Peter Weir:
The Cars That Ate Paris
Picnic at Hanging Rock
The Last Wave
Gallipoli
The Year of Living Dangerously
Witness
The Mosquito Coast
Dead Poet's Society
Green Card
Fearless
The Truman Show
Master & Commander
Of these, only Green Card is questionable.
In any event, by any measure, the number of good, and even great, films by these two far outweigh their "bad" ones.
Shame, shame...(LOL)
Peace.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 13:07
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I'm not saying that Kingdom of Heaven, Black Rain, 1492, Matchstick
Men, Hannibal, White Squall, GI Jane, Master and Commander, Fearless,
Green Card etc... all stink (although I think some of them do). The best of
these are still just very good and solid Hollywood craftmanship.
Is Kingdom of Heaven unforgettable just because it doesn't suck? The same goes for the good Gladiator, Dead Poets Society, Thelma & Louise. None of these are masterpieces, or great art imo. What directors would you take out of the poll instead? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 13:19
of Fassbinder I especially like "Welt am Draht" ("World on Wire"), a
tv-movie he made for WDR, a German tv-station. there is a problem with
the rights about that movie, and at the moment it can't be shown at
all, not even on tv, but we have a video of it. sometimes it pays to
have a relative that is working for a tv-station  .
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 13:22
No. I meant that if my vote was based on films Jarmush could have a chance to get my vote because of "Dead Man". But in order to say that Jarmush is my favourite director I should be acquainted with, at least, some of his films besides "Dead Man", whereas I only saw some frames from a couple of other his films, which didn't impress me.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 13:27
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OK, I understand. I find Jarmusch to be always interesting, but very
uneven. Dead Man is great. Maybe you would enjoy Ghost Dog.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 13:45
Hopefully. As I said, I must go dipper in Jarmush (and other directors) filmography.
In a certain day back in 1996 everyone I know prepared to watch Q. Tarantino's "Pulp Fiction" TV-premiere; so did I. When waiting, I went from channel to channel and by chance saw the introduction to "Dead Man"; I was intrigued. I began to watch "Dead Man" and was caught, totally -- I realised where I am two hours later, when the film was over.
Some months after that I saw "Pulp Fiction"; I never regretted that time I preferred "Dead Man".
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 13:55
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I liked Jarmusch's Mystery Train, Night on Earth, and Down by Law very
much. Whilst I have problems with auteur theory (since I see film
as a collaborative medium), the great directors are, generally, seen to
have distinctive styles that are reflected in their ouvres.
Jarmusch has that. I think its his films' humour that appeals to
me most. As for Ridley Scott, i wouldn't say that he has forgettable films, but I don't think him great. He lacks subtlety, and there seems to me to be is a distinct lack of intellectual rigour that goes into his filmmaking (look at them ideologically). Gladiator? Didn't like it. Titus that came out about the same time was far more interesting, I thought, although it was flawed. Black Hawk Down was, ultimately, a pretty disappointing action-movie for me. I'd hoped he'd offer a more blanced portrait of the situation (and delve into more of the history). But he had his goals. He's good at spectacle, but I don't think he's good at anlaysis. I expect a little more from film. I'd rather see his brother Tony Scott here, to be honest. Since Lucas' Star Wars was mentioned: I'm no fan. It's too simplistic philosophically, the characters are not well drawn out... While I would classify it more as fantasy than SF, I associate it with the prog movement. When it came out prog was dying -- too many people wanted wanted fast-food/ jumk-food rather than a hearty meal full of intriguing ideas -- this blockbuster helped kill, or just maim really, what I see as the best SF era. Meaning films that had profound ideas, questioned our world and where we were going. Vapid. |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 14:17
Ridley Scott makes amazing films. Blackhawk Down and Matchstick Men are the only two I didn't really care for. Kingdom of Heave, Gladiator, Blade Runner, and Aliens were art! -------------
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: July 16 2006 at 14:27
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Rocktopus:
Oy! Apparently we are in the same situation that we have with prog: what, exactly, is a "masterpiece?" Indeed, what exactly is "poor," "fair," "good" or "great?" Your "very good and solid" might be my "masterpiece." Who is to judge?
When determining the greatness of a director (or, indeed, a prog group), for me it still comes down to three things: innovation, influence and the excellence of the overall body of work. I am not suggesting that Scott or Weir were wildly innovative (though each has a film or two that is, Alien and Blade Runner for Scott, Picnic and Last Wave for Weir), nor am I suggesting that either was particularly influential (though Alien is unquestionably among the most influential sci-fi films of all time).
Rather, I am looking at the excellence of their bodies of work. And to my mind, that excellence far exceeds that of some of the directors you mention. Indeed, Spielberg, Lucas, Gilliam, Burton and Jackson all have more "journeyman" films than Scott or Weir - and certainly more as a percentage of their total output.
I might add (at the risk of having DVDs thrown at me from all directions) that both Coppola and Kubrick are vastly overrated. Coppola's entire "name" is based on The Godfather, The Conversation, The Godfather: Part II and Apocalypse Now. [N.B. I also consider Tucker: A Man and His Dream as one of Coppola's best films.] And while there is no question that these four films alone are worthy of excessive praise and admiration, Coppola had far more "misses" than "hits."
Similarly with Kubrick, his "name" is based largely on Dr. Strangelove, 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange and The Shining. Setting aside that The Shining is perhaps the most overrated film in history (I personally consider it weak in almost every regard, and among Kubrick's worst), Kubrick also had as many "misses" as "hits" - although some of his misses (Paths of Glory, Spartacus, Full Metal Jacket) were admittedly better than Coppola's, Spielberg's, etc.
It may be that even Scott's and Weir's greatest films (to my mind, Blade Runner, Alien, Black Rain and Gladiator, and Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Year of Living Dangerously, Witness and The Truman Show) do not "measure up" to The Godfather, Apocalypse Now, Dr. Strangelove, 2001: A Space Odyssey et al. However, to dismiss Scott and Weir as you do is short-sighted.
Ultimately, however, the problem remains the subjectivity of the topic: one man's meat is another man's poison, and one man's "good" is another man's "masterpiece."
Peace.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 04:26
Well Maani. I've rarely seen a reviewer or heard anyone calling any of the films I listed, a masterpiece. I don't believe everything is all subective. On the other hand I've seen and heard many times Blade Runner, Alien, Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Truman Show being (rightfully) praised as such. I have seen the tree (solid) films I listed separatly being called masterpieces when they were new, by shortsited rewievers. I'm not at all dismissing them as directors, why do you say that? I listed the films I've seen they have I rate from just good (Fearless...) or bad (Hannibal...). Among them only two titles by Peter Weir. And if Hannibal and 1492 aren't also questionable films, I don't know what is. I rate them more or less as equals to the ones you mentioned (except Terry Gilliam whom I rate higher). Fritz Lang, Charlie Chaplin, Jean Cocteau etc.. maybe leaving them out they is inexcusable. A list of 24 top names is not much, I don't think many people who has seen many films from directors of all nationalities would rate Weir or Scott among them. I'm not saying I haven't put any questionable names in the poll myself. BTW: I think The Shining is Kubricks best, and one of the best horror movies made. The solid Spartacus and Paths of Gory are both from before he started making his string of classics that also includes Barry Lyndon imo. Full Metal Jacket is not among them, but also good and surely better than say Matchstick Men? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: cowbell1
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 09:20
| Quentin Tarantino anyone? What about Martin Scorsese. |
Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 10:38
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Strange list indeed, Lucas next to Fellini...
My favourite directors are Stanley Kubrick Pier Paolo Pasolini Quentin Tarantino Martin Scorsese Federico Fellini Francis Ford Coppola Peter Jackson ------------- Weasels ripped my flesh |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 11:45
Coffee and Cigarettes |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 16:14
Indeed? Six of your nine favorites are in it. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 17 2006 at 21:48
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I would really love to vote Fellini because I feel he's forgotten among the greats but I have to go with Kubrick. The man is a legend, 2001: A Space Odyssey showed me that directing is more than just pointing a camera. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 18 2006 at 01:56
Kubrick from any list.
Haven't seen Riddley Scott or am I wrong?
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: July 18 2006 at 01:59
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Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: July 18 2006 at 09:21
Indeed, they are in poll, but this is my preferences. I just think that it's wrong to make poll and compose it with a list of such absolutely different directors. As I've mentioned, Fellini next to Lucas is weird. Poll is very incoherent. To get more or less adequate results they all must be in the same leauge. For example Pasolini, Fellini, Visconti, etc... ------------- Weasels ripped my flesh |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 18 2006 at 09:46
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Well Paul K. That might have worked on the moviearchives. To spark an
interest for a poll like this on a progarchive, I had to make a broad
selection. No matter how you think of my poll, I included 24 of the
greatest names from 20th. century filmhistory. Highbrow or lowbrow, art
and entertaiment. So far its been a discussion on who should/could/shouldn't be included, what are peoples favorites and a lot of reccomendations. The list of peoples favorites (in the poll) is pretty interesting and varied too: 1. Kubrick 2. Tarkovsky 3. Polanski and Spielberg. Not that it means all that much. I'm pleased. If I only had selected. The Eisensteins, Pasolinis or Bergmans we would either still be at page one, or 2/3s of the posts would be people complaining about the snobby selection, and shouting where's Lucas, or where's Jackson. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: July 19 2006 at 04:22
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Stan's the man.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: July 24 2006 at 14:06
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Prolific as nobody else, he even invented a genre, and produced a movie with no protagonist; my vote is for mr. Fellini. He is a tender, imaginative and fierce director, with a great sense of composition, a level of writing that can be compared to nobel prize witters; his 8 1/2 is a killer movie, with the greates end I've ever witnessed (I can't help it, I always cry when I see the end of that movie, same with "I la nave va". He is a crazy genius and I simply worship him. Take off Spielberg from the list, he's mearly average if compared with the great art shown by other like Kurosawa, another favourite. And Mr. Greenaway should be in that list too; he's admirable. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 24 2006 at 14:17
I don't think it was really the directing that made that film good. The story is obviously the best seller. What was caught on the film, the rape scene for instance, is just ground-breaking, so credit must be given to Kubrick. He put on film what few would. -------------
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: July 25 2006 at 11:17
That one too... I can't stop watching "Stalker"... ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:54
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Nice to see people from the non-Russian speaking auditory who like Tarkovsky!
Actually, I think that the Soviet cinema suffers from a weak exposure out of the USSR (well, like other national cinemas). Nevertheless it has a unique cinematographic tradition with incredibly high level of both actors play and directors work.
But I think few are known outside, Tarkovsky is one of them. There are also two brothers: Andrey (Andron) Konchalovsky and Nikita Mikhalkov, both are known in the world. For me, Mikhalkov was great director of great films until he's made "Tired (wearied?) by the Sun". After that he's gone even worse with "Siberian Barber". Ironically, I think that only two aforementioned works are known worldwide.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:55
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Steven Spielberg ------------- |
Posted By: MustShaveBeard
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 16:07
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Right now it's Tim Burton (I just love Halloweeny visuals), but I've recently become an "Eraserhead" fan and it could become David Lynch. Gilliam and Kubrick are awesome as well, and I love "Dead Man" by Jarmusch. ------------- Your life or your lupins!!! |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 06:46
The debut film from '03 "The Return" from the russian director Andrey Zvyagintzev, is one of the best films I've seen from the last couple of years. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 06:50
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Felini
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 09:57
| I voted Hitch, because he consistently made great films. Orson Welles also right up there for me. |
Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 10:04
voted bergman for this alone ...
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Posted By: Liquid Len
Date Posted: August 06 2006 at 17:39
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OTHER
Scorsese
IS THE DADDY OF THEM ALL
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Posted By: Niki ( IO )
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 05:02
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I love Bergman from that list...
But voted for "Other" for W.HERZOG...
...and L.Bunuel, R.Bresson, C.T.Dreyer... ------------- IO |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 05:05
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Other - John Ford ------------- 
Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 05:07
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other - Martin Scorsese ------------- The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 05:19
The daddy of them all? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 06:02
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DAVID LYNCH!!!! I'm totally hooked on Twin Peaks Series 2 as we speak  ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 07:23
Ditto.
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Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 07:29
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I wanted to vote for Werner Herzog... In the end I couldn't but vote for Federico Fellini! ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 12:29
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Where are Sergei Eisenstein, John Ford, John Houston, Martin Scorsese, David Lean, Sam Peckinpah, Vittorio De Sica, Luis Bunuel, Clint Eastwood, among others?
Where's JOHN WOO???!!!!  ------------- 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 14:52
| Lately I've been very much into Tarkovski. So far I've seen Stalker, Solaris, Nostalghia and The Mirror, all of which I think are masterpieces. I can hardly wait for the Finnish DVD release of Andrei Rublev. |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 15:00
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Fellini for me. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 10:58
| Marty Scoresese is the greatest director of all time. |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 16:48
I have just seen this film, "The Return". Liked it immediately. There were some unexplained issues, but, nonetheless, quite a strong film. Thanks, Rocktopus!
Eugene
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Posted By: Draconean
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 13:04
My vote has to go to Stanley Kubrick. 
IMO he was unique and unequallled in the sheer variety and originality he was able to put into his directing. In several genres he did direct impressive classics, such as: * Horror (The Shining) * Science Fiction (2001: A Space Oddyssey) * War (Full Metal Jacket) * Historical epic (Spartacus) * Comedy (Dr. Strangelove) * Drama (A Clockwork Orange) ------------- I'm running still, I shall until, one day I hope that I'll arrive |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 13:12
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I must add Mike Leigh,Robert Altman and Roger Corman to the list -------------
Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 19:59
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Kubrick for me also on a side note, who would you think is the most prog director of them all? I would have to say Kubrick also ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 22:14
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Joel Schumacher (no, no... I?m just kidding!
)Great list of great directors. Without a doubt they are some of the most inffluential directors and their filmographies are full of trascendental movies in cinema history... But everyone has their regular movies too IMO...
No matter what my favourites are (in order)
Terry Gilliam
Andrei Tarkovski
Orson Welles
Jim Jarmusch
Stanley Kubrick
David Lynch
Sergio Leone
Werner Herzog
Federico Fellini
Tim Burton
F. Ford Coppola
Ingmar Bergman
Akira Kurosawa
Francois Truffaut
Jean Luc Goddard
Roman Polanski
And out of the list I really enjoy the work of David Cronenberg, Michelangelo Antonioni, Pier Paolo Pasolini, Todd Solondz, John Carpenter, Sam Peckinpah, John Ford, Carlos Reygadas, Sergei Einsenstein, Luis Buñuel, René Clair, Wong Kar Wai, Abel Ferrara, Terrence Malick, Michael Cimino (even when Gates Of Heaven is such a crap!), John Cassavettes, Sean Penn (The Pledge is awsome!), Billie August, Lindsay Anderson, Alexander Payne, Martin Scorsese, Fernando Solanas, Raoul Mamoulian, Michael Hanneke, the Coen brothers, Mira Nair, John Frankenheimer, Javier Fesser and of course two amazing chilean directors: Silvio Caiozzi and Miguel LIttin..
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Posted By: Draconean
Date Posted: April 25 2007 at 12:29
I couldn't agree more! IMO Kubrick was in every genre in which he directed movies groundbraking (= very progressive). ------------- I'm running still, I shall until, one day I hope that I'll arrive |
Posted By: ita_prog_fan
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 13:18
| Federico, not Frederico, Fellini. |