Will Barrett's death unite Pink Floyd onc
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Topic: Will Barrett's death unite Pink Floyd onc
Posted By: RaphaelT
Subject: Will Barrett's death unite Pink Floyd onc
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:33
Will the saddest news of today make the greatest protagonists, Waters and Gilmour bury the axe and reunite for the very last time in order to celebrate the memory of the band's founder and inventor of the name??
They should finally realize that Live 8 gig was not real comeback and it is the last time to do it, since they meet only at the funerals (I know I am copying the reasons that brought VDGG back together)
That should be one album only, without bombastic tours. And an album completely different from what they were doing recently, either as Pink Floyd and solo. Coming back to psychedelia, I am sure their creative geniuses could really impress contemporary music.
After that they should go their own way.
Maybe I am daydreaming, but what's your opinion about it?
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:36
I expected such a question. Dunno what to say,really.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:38
Perhaps maybe just a tribute show, playing only Syd's music. I think that would be nice.
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:38
Forget it.
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:39
Maybe if Syd croaked that sentiment from his deathbed, then maybe a snowball's chance. Otherwise, I would have to say, "No Dice."
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:41
It would be so nice....
said Barrett
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Posted By: Fourside
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:45
The members Pink Floyd right now, and for a long time now, are probably
more focused with their own endeavours, and not Pink Floyd's. These
endeavours most likely include sailing, flying, and NASCAR, and not
music. Consider being lucky for the Live 8 reunion, it is unlikely to
ever see Pink Floyd do anything ever together again. Besides, the last
thing Syd would have wanted, I presume, was to have a tribute show for
him.
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Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:45
No it won't happen.
Did you know Waters was going to offer Andy Latimer the Gilmour guitar/vocal position on his current Wall tour? That would have been awesome, but it didn't work out.
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:47
Heptade wrote:
No it won't happen.
Did you know Waters was going to offer Andy Latimer the Gilmour guitar/vocal position on his current Wall tour? That would have been awesome, but it didn't work out.
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I heard he couldn't hit the notes.
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Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:50
Yeah, his voice is shot...too bad, since not only does his playing resemble Gilmour's, but his voice isn't dissimilar also.
How 'bout a reunion tour with Robyn Hitchcock as Syd? He looks and sounds just like him!
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 15:56
Heptade wrote:
Yeah, his voice is shot...too bad, since not only does his playing resemble Gilmour's, but his voice isn't dissimilar also.
How 'bout a reunion tour with Robyn Hitchcock as Syd? He looks and sounds just like him!
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That would be a disgrace to Syd and everything his music stood for, imagination and soul.
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 16:06
A look/soundalike??? Good grief...Rust has it absolutely right when he says the word 'disgrace'. Pink Floyd would never even consider that- and I'm certain of that as the band have constantly paid tributes to him ever since he left and continue to do so to this day- Dave Gilmour played 'Arnold Layne' on his tour this year.
What I think will happen though is a rip off compilation that finally liberates 'Scream Thy Last Scream' and 'Vegetable Man', whilst his work will be sold to a new generation who will seemingly see him as a forefather to some talentless, publicity seeking oik such as Pete Doherty, neglecting the fact that Syd was none of those things but was one of few genuinely unique musicians the rock world has ever created.
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Posted By: man@arms
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 16:10
I doubt Pink Floyd will ever get back together under any circumstances.
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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 16:33
johnobvious wrote:
Heptade wrote:
No it won't happen.
Did you know Waters was going to offer Andy Latimer the Gilmour guitar/vocal position on his current Wall tour? That would have been awesome, but it didn't work out.
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I heard he couldn't hit the notes.
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Waters should have let Latimer play guitar and got a specialist in for vocals. Latimer's guitar playing is too brilliant to be missing from the live scene. Shame his voice is gone.
Dave Gilmour played Arnold Layne on Jools Holland's show a few weeks ago with Rick Wright on keys and vocals. Bloody awful it was too, compared to his recent stuff; I've never liked early Floyd. But Gilmour and Wright were the heart of Floyd so getting them back together is a great start. I doubt if Waters will ever get back with those two, since he is alleged to have driven Wright to the edge of a breakdown.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 16:41
This is sad news indeed..
I've only just seen the story on the BBC website.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5169344.stm - Syd Barret RIP
Floyd Re-union? No I dont think so. Would be good though.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 16:55
"Shine on you crazy diamond" already stands as a fitting tribute by Pink Floyd.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 16:57
It sounds cynical or too idealistic but Pink Floyd could organise a Syd Barrett Tribute Concert in order to collect money for several diabetes organisations? I am sure this will give an extra dimension to Money... ...!
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 17:52
charity show would be a nice idea, and really would give a new meaning to "Money" or "Have a Cigar". But I doubt Gilmour would accept it, since he is against great Pink Floyd shows.
Shine On is a great tribute to Syd, but it was recorded in different circumstances - yet Crazy Diamond will never shine again - and I think that Pink Floyd could really cope with final matters, even eschatological - frankly, they never did it, they were always one step before that frontier, even on their saddest and most serious albums.
But maybe you are right, maybe now they are only concerned with their solo careers and are not going to notice that this death closes some epoque of Pink Floyd. Nothing can ever be the same...
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 18:59
I hope it will spur them to do at least something....
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 21:32
I supose they gonna make something in tribute to him.
They HAD to.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 03:20
All Syd Barret recording will be re-mastsred/re-released in a blaze of publicity. A DVD will be released featuring classic clips and the musings and reminiscing of the other 4 members.
Better than a kick in the nuts of course, but I bet Floyd would stop short of actually meeting up and doing something really big like a tour, or even a one off show. A Syd Barret archive package could be put together without Waters and Gilmour having to face each other. The package could come out as a limited edition for the first 10,000,000 copies only. It will feature a flashing diamond on the cover, powered by a watch battery. In true Floyd style..
'Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash!'
Perhaps they could give a large chunk of the royalties to Barrets family...
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Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 09:49
"disgrace"...sheesh. Some people have no sense of humour. I wasn't seriously suggesting a Hitchcock/Floyd tour!
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 11:15
Perfectly true, Blacksword. And I think this DVD would be maximum we could get. I said I was daydreaming about this special album
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 11:20
I could care less-I'd rather have no Floyd reunion, it would be overly commercial.
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Posted By: emersontarkus23
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 00:33
It's very doubtful-even in the wake of Syd's death, Roger Waters is one of the world's most stubborn men, and I think he would rather swallow hemlock than have to play on a more permanent basis with David Gilmour again. I know the analogy may be too strong or exaggerated, but that's the impression I get...
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Posted By: emersontarkus23
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 00:34
By the way, after a person becomes a senior member, are there any levels you can reach after that?
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 00:43
The Wizard wrote:
I could care less-I'd rather have no Floyd reunion, it would be overly commercial. |
Yeah. It just wouldn't be very good I think. A reunion concert could be nice but I doubt they would make anything outstanding in studio.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 00:43
emersontarkus23 wrote:
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 13 2006 at 17:39
No, but if they did I would loose somre respect for them because it seems too much like a "take the opportunity to exploid it"...although, on the other hand Pink Floyd woudnt need of Syds death to reunite and make money or whatever out of it...
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 05:15
For Syd's sake they may join for a tribute show.
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 05:18
The Miracle wrote:
emersontarkus23 wrote:
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You can become a prog raviewer or a special collab but you get awarded those.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 15:48
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Posted By: spacecraft
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 19:00
Not a cats chance in hell. Gilmour, was recently interveiwed on Scottidh telly, and he said , he would never go on tour with the Floyd again.
Anyway, isn't Barrett massively overrated, just like the appallingly bad Sargeant Pepper by the Beatles.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 19:03
spacecraft wrote:
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 21:02
its a fools hope, the band certainly wont be recording anything else
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 07:04
Notwithstanding the fool's hope, how would you like the idea of Floyds recording psychodelic album again (nothing in the vein of symphonic pop of A Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell)?
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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 20:59
I hope to God that Floyd will not do anything together now, after Syd's death. Why should they tarnish their reputation? I'm afraid that anything they do know will ring hollow. They really are not the same anymore. Gilmour's voice has changed, Waters is even worse than it was, and has lost most of its edge, and I can't really say much about Wright and Mason, as i havn't heard them since Live 8.
Pink Floyd should leave us with their emotional and spectacular Live 8 performance, and their years beginning with Syd, and leading up to (hopefully) their final studio album The Division Bell. Pink Floyd is my favorite band, and I would have given my right arm to see them in their prime, but now, I just don't know. I don't want them to turn into another The Who.
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Posted By: Zoso
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 23:40
We can always hope, can't we?
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: July 20 2006 at 19:29
Syd had been out of their lives for so long....WYWH was the most fitting of tributes.
Now, a concert featuring some of Syd's Floyd and solo songs done by various artists (a la the Dylan 50th birthday concert) might be a fun and fitting send off. Would love to hear Julian Cope cover "Chapter 24".
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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 18:25
I'm relying on GuitarWorld for my info YET AGAIN (though I know it's a crapshoot)...
(taken from the May 2006 issue)
GW: Whatever. It was very emotional for a lot of us to see you back together (meaning, I suppose, Wright, Mason, Gilmour and Waters playing again).
Waters: Oh; it was terrific. I really loved it. I hope we do it again. It was more than good. If some other opportunity arose, I could even imagine us doing Dark Side Of The Moon again-you know, if there was a special occasion. It would be good to hear it again. Live 8 was so great.
GW: What would that occasion have to be?
Waters: A good reason. I don't know. Something with a political or charitable connection. The day they announced the Pink Floyd reunion to play Live 8, I went out to dinner with a friend and an offer arrived-literally BANG on the table-for the 4 of us, the Pink Floyd, to tour again. An offer of $250 million. Guaranteed.
David Gilmour has other plans.
GW: Roger Waters has been pretty vocal in the press about how positive the (Live8) experience was for him. He seems to be saying that he'd like to do more-to reconvene Pink Floyd on a more regualr basis. What are your feelings toward that?
Gilmour: I have great pride and affection for most of my Pink Floyd career. I had a thoroughly good time. Musically and artistically, it was very satisfying. The good times far outweigh the moments that were not so great for me. But I have moved on. I have a different working partnership right now. I'm playing with another group of musicians and writing with my wife. I'm finding that this is what I want to be doing. I'm satisfied with this. I don't have much nostalgia for that old thing. It's in the past for me. Done it. I don't have any desire to go back there. And anyway, doing a tour without making a record would just be doing it for the money. I'm not interested in going there. And thinking about making a new record with all of us, including Roger-I just don't think it would work. Roger and I had too long being horrid little despots. I just don't think it would make me a happier human being. Sorry. I'll pass on it.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 10:31
sbrushfan wrote:
I'm relying on GuitarWorld for my info YET AGAIN (though I know it's a crapshoot)...
(taken from the May 2006 issue)
GW: Whatever. It was very emotional for a lot of us to see you back together (meaning, I suppose, Wright, Mason, Gilmour and Waters playing again).
Waters: Oh; it was terrific. I really loved it. I hope we do it again. It was more than good. If some other opportunity arose, I could even imagine us doing Dark Side Of The Moon again-you know, if there was a special occasion. It would be good to hear it again. Live 8 was so great.
GW: What would that occasion have to be?
Waters: A good reason. I don't know. Something with a political or charitable connection. The day they announced the Pink Floyd reunion to play Live 8, I went out to dinner with a friend and an offer arrived-literally BANG on the table-for the 4 of us, the Pink Floyd, to tour again. An offer of $250 million. Guaranteed.
David Gilmour has other plans.
GW: Roger Waters has been pretty vocal in the press about how positive the (Live8) experience was for him. He seems to be saying that he'd like to do more-to reconvene Pink Floyd on a more regualr basis. What are your feelings toward that?
Gilmour: I have great pride and affection for most of my Pink Floyd career. I had a thoroughly good time. Musically and artistically, it was very satisfying. The good times far outweigh the moments that were not so great for me. But I have moved on. I have a different working partnership right now. I'm playing with another group of musicians and writing with my wife. I'm finding that this is what I want to be doing. I'm satisfied with this. I don't have much nostalgia for that old thing. It's in the past for me. Done it. I don't have any desire to go back there. And anyway, doing a tour without making a record would just be doing it for the money. I'm not interested in going there. And thinking about making a new record with all of us, including Roger-I just don't think it would work. Roger and I had too long being horrid little despots. I just don't think it would make me a happier human being. Sorry. I'll pass on it. |
So I think we are settle that we should blame Gilmour not Waters for split up of Pink Floyd - instead of emotional masterpieces like The Wall or The Final Cut what we got were mere, shallow records like Lapse or The Division Bell.
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