best album of 2004
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Topic: best album of 2004
Posted By: tuxon
Subject: best album of 2004
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 17:50
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Fellow forum members,' The year is almost over, and that usualy is a time to look back on the year. So here's a question for you. Which album is the best album released this year? Mine two favourites are: 1. Riverside "Out of Myself" 2. IQ "Dark Matter" ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 17:53
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Wow Tux you've managed to choose the best and worst releases of this year! 1. Riverside "Out of Myself"
4,777 th:IQ "Dark Matter" uggggh. My succinct review of "Dark Matter" by IQ: Brown matter......................... ------------- 
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 17:56
Does that make me eclectic ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 18:02
No just a poor judge... -------------
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 18:06
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------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 18:31
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I have to agree. 1. Riverside! 2. Happy the Man - The Muse Awakes 3. Salem Hill - Be (It may be 2003, but very late 2003.) Dark Matter? Surely in the top 12-25.
It would have been better to have a poll of 20 choices of 2004 releases. I can't remember what came out this year, CRS for old proggers trying to act kool. |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 18:42
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I don't know much new releases myself, I wanted to make it a pole initialy, but was afraid to leave some essentials out, this way everything can be added, I can alway's calculate the outcome afterwards. One of the reasons I started this, was to learn about good releases I did not know about anyway. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 18:47
The only one's I know about are Feedback-Rush which isnt prog and Riverside (cheers Danbo -------------
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tuxon wrote:Posted By: ShrinkingViolet
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 18:51
| I would have to say for me the best prog album of 2004 is Ayreons - The Human Equation |
Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 19:09
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Ayreon! of course! Dark Matter, though makes at least the top five. |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 19:12
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Proto-Kaw Before Became after ------------- 
"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: JedHead
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 19:22
------------- The good cop and the bad cop left for the day. I'm a different kind of cop. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 19:24
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i thought that snow patrol - final straw was one of the best ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 20:21
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Of the few I've heard, "The Human Equation" (Ayreon), "One" (Neal Morse), and "Out of Myself" (Riverside). Sorry to repeat, but they're gooooooood. now then: the best album of 2005? i vote for spock's beard's upcoming "octane". It'd better be good. (preview at their website) |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 21:05
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Without a shadow of a doubt, the best album of 2004 is Ayreon's The Human Equation. As for 2005, I'd say the best will probably end up being Porcupine Tree's Deadwing or The Mars Volta's Frances the Mute. |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 22:58
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I'm not very up-to-date...can I just vote on the best albums I've heard for the first time this year? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 22:59
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Seven by Magenta, no doubt in me. Ivαn |
Posted By: semismart
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 23:17
I'll go for The Human Equation - Ayreon, Lemuria/Sirius B - Therion, Inner Circle - Evergrey or Reign of Light - Samael  ------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 02:42
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Adam & Eve - The Flower Kings
The Muse Awakens - Happy The Man Shadowlands - Glass Hammer |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 05:11
 ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Spanky
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 07:29
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Ayreon - The Human Equation Fantomas - Delirium Cordia Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Abbatoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 07:42
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blacksword chose Dark Matter! nobody took marillion marbles? ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 07:45
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I choose DARK MATTER - But I haven't heard ANY of the others that have been listed......How many CD's do some of you buy !!!!! And how do you get time to listen to them thoroughly ?? ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 07:53
Damned fine album - I think his best since 'Murder Ballads'; a good combination of his dark visions/ballads/wicked sense of humour - nice one Nick! ------------- 
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Posted By: ShrinkingViolet
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 08:17
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woaw spanky seen you put Fantomas in with their excellent Delirium Cordia , mike patton is such a talented musician .
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 10:05
Tangerine Dream: "DM 4". 34 years since their first album and still at the peak of their powers,it's nothing short of miraculous! ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 10:11
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My favorite Cave's album since THE GOOD SON (the most favorite!) is THE BOATMAN'S CALL. THE MURDER BALLADS is on my second half...
------------- I Prophesy Disaster... |
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 10:12
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It seems like DARK MATTER by IQ is the best one of this year. At least of those which I listened... ------------- I Prophesy Disaster... |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 10:18
| Dream Theater " Live At Budokan " |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 10:42
That will be my choice- thanks for reminding me! I never really liked Marillion (until I heard "Ocean Cloud", that is) so choosing them for album of the year appeals to the prankster in me. Ayeron seems to be quite popular, eh? Is "The Human Equation" better than "The Dream Sequencer"? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 10:46
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Listened to it about half a dozen times.
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Posted By: zappa123
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 10:51
| There is no such thing for me. I stuck in year 76. |
Posted By: Azrael2112
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 11:00
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1. Dark Matter - IQ
2. Adam and Eve - Flower Kings 3. The Human Equation - Ayreon ------------- http://www.flywithjet.com"> 
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 11:14
Ah Reed you΄re so sweet 
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 11:42
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Actually,I was also very impressed by the album "Once" by the Finnish band Nightwish. Their earlier albums are ok but this time they've come up with a true masterpiece in the symphonic metal genre. Great songwriting and surprisingly intelligent lyrics,tremendous production with a huge wall of sound,fabulous musicianship,a singer with a classically trained voice that blows the competition off stage (and out of the studio,presumably),fantastic vocal arrangements with a big choir and amazing orchestral arrangements make this an album that will stand as a benchmark for this type of music for many years to come,I'm sure. Something to aspire to for other bands in the genre,although I doubt if any one of them will manage the heights of excellence that Nightwish have attained with this one. If you're unfamiliar with Nightwish,give "Once" a try. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 11:58
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Matthew Parmenter's Astray. I can't believe I forgot it. Astray is a great album. Easily top three. Blackfield should be in the top ten. Marbles? Top 25-30 with a bullet. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 12:06
| Personally I think 2004 has not been a vintage year for new prog and if come to that any of the other genre I really like. From what I've heard,of th straighter prog IQ Dark Matter stands above a mediocre lot. Unicorn Records released a couple of metal come jazz rock albums earlier in the year: Uptight and Alkemy's Da 64 Project. British indie label Burning Shed continue to be eclectic with their range of releases. Occasional Steve Wilson collaborator Tim Bowness's My Hotel Year was one of my records of the month (as was Alkemy), similarly Hugh Hopper's The Stolen Hour. Cuneiform Records similarly offered an eclectic and often musically challenging list of records through 2004, of which Richard Leo Johnson's Trio's Applicance of Poetry (in suggesting electric folk instrumentals, doesn't cover the complexity of many of the tunes???), has been a real favourite taking some time to grow on me. Also found Univers Zero's Implosion and Daevid Allen's Univerity of Errors' Jet Propelled Photograph to bepretty good. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 14:06
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By a landslide. It's more varied in styles, the concept is better, the compositions are more interesting, the vocalists featured are better, and it's really just way better in every way. If The Dream Sequencer was your introduction to Ayreon, I'm sorry for you. Regarding Delirium Cordia, it's a good album, but I'd consider it the weakest Fantomas album yet. It seems they're starting to forsake listenability in favour of pure experimentalism. It's in my top 20, but far from one of the best. And regarding Marbles, it's a very good album, and certainly in my top 10, but it has too many weak moments for me to really consider it worthy of being one of the best. Ocean Cloud and Neverland are both fantastic though. |
Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 14:10
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My top three are Dark Matter - IQ and seeing IQ perform this album back in October was the high light of my year! Hypnotic Underworld - Ghost Pain Of Salvation - Be ------------- Don't hate me I'm not special like you |
Posted By: will
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 15:35
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Id have to say Ayreon but im sure there must be better this year. Glad to see Evergrey got a mention, Great band. Not to keen on Nightwish i brought one of there "best of" albums "tales from the elven path" and the women who sings just annoys me. I was also really disapointed with the extras, a crappy 2 page booklet with advertising for their ohter albums. ------------- Long live progression. Will |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 15:45
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Wince once, and consent. Wince once, then relent. Acuity |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 16:48
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Wince me once, shame on you. Wince me twice, shame on me! Incongruity ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 16:51
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wince me trice I will not notice Bad english? ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 16:51
I didn't even know they had a "Best of" album and anyway they are rather disparaging about some of their earlier stuff these days. As I said,it's ok but no more,it's "Once" you should check out. But of course if you can't stand Tarja's voice then it's probably best to avoid the band completely I would suspect. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 16:52
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It is "thrice" you monoglot!
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 16:57
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Monoglot a person qui palabras nur eine taal. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 16:59
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trice is a perfectly good word...may not be exactly what you were going for, but your sentence still makes perfect sense. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 17:03
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But means a very short period of time.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 17:06
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that's why I edited it (after searching for the exact meaning of trice), left the remark bad english, for it would be cheating to alter after a response, making the response less valid/more valid ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 17:11
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What I don't understand is the Bad English reference.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 17:17
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Only trice did they lasted. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: will
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 17:19
I may listen to some of their newer stuff, i really like the music, but as i said the vocals ruin it for me ------------- Long live progression. Will |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 17:22
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ACUITY "Skyward" is very interesting. But the vocals are crap ! Worth a listen. Probably a *** 1/2 album.
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 17:25
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Don't know it so it's better if I don't say anything about it. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 20:17
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My 2004 Podium: Gold medal - HAPPY THE MAN's "The Muse Awakens" Silver medal - IQ's "Dark Matter", PETER HAMMILL's "Incoherence" and AMAROK's "Quentadharken" Bronze medal - WHITE WILLOW's "Storm Season" and PROTO-KAW's "Before Became After" |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 20:43
The vocals are weak admittedly, but there are some spots where they fit in quite well. Brad S. did all the intrumentation and singing for the cd except Parmenter's violin role in one of the songs. Too bad he couldn't have given this guy the lead vocals. Those songs would have sounded great then. Still an unbelievable 1st attempt. I haven't heard anything proggier released this year. |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 03:02
Since Nightwish has been described as Opera Metal there are quite a few who have a problem with the vocals,I know. At times it does sound a lot like Wagner had come back to life and decided to start a metal band. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 03:18
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With ZOOT ALLURES? :-) ;-) ------------- I Prophesy Disaster... |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 07:27
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Unless you've listened to every prog release this year then it's hard to make a judgement - Ands it's subjective yet again - Maybe this forum should contain a profile of each member based on the following categories... These categories are all from 0 (low) to 100 HIGH 1 - Preference for melody, 2- Preference for dischordant din 3 - Acceptance of concept sounds 4- Preference to 70's prog 5 - Preference for Prog/Metal 6 - Classical preference 7 - Hard rock/Thrash preference 8 - Pop preference 9 - Jazz Preference 10 - Folk preference - Thus giving a good indication what you like.... ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 07:32
Sorry mate, too busy pulling myself off in front of the telly.... I'll get the DVD back to you next week. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2566&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2566&a mp;PN=1 ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 13:17
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Alright, here's a more complete list. I've decided to omit non-prog albums, since no one really cares about them. 10. Valley of the Giants - Valley of the Giants (A supergroup featuring members of Godspeed You Black Emperor, they're not listed on here but they should be.) |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 14:19
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 14:34
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Prog album of the year for me was '5 Suns' by GUAPO. Gig of the year as well. Other groovy stuff - 'Le Pas Du Chat Noir' by Anouar Brahem and 'Electric Sufi' by Dhafer Youssef. Strong offerings also from Nick Cave, Elvis Costello and Morrisey. Not a vintage year, but looking back not bad at all.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 17 2004 at 15:55
| Magenta - Seven |