Hillage remasters to come
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Topic: Hillage remasters to come
Posted By: oliverstoned
Subject: Hillage remasters to come
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 06:37
Some news from Gas Gong:
"STEVE HILLAGE REMASTERS Updated Wed 03 Apr'06
Steve's solo albums from the 70's are scheduled for release in remastered, bonus-tracked and expanded booklet form this Autumn. They are to be released in cronological order, 4 in October and 4 in November. And the best news is that it's all being done with his blessing and hands-on input. As soon as I have any info on the bonus tracks I will let you know. "
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 07:07
Fish Rising would be an interesting album to hear in a surround mix (SACD/DVD-A). But listening to the "normal" version I don't hear much room for improvement ... the mix is perfect as it is.
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Posted By: Baggiesfaninuk
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 07:12
'Rainbow Dome Musik' is great for insomniacs. And I don't mean that disrespectfully; I value that piece of vinyl for the way in which it can send me to sleep within 5 minutes of being placed on the turntable.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 07:13
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Fish Rising would be an interesting album to hear in a surround mix (SACD/DVD-A). But listening to the "normal" version I don't hear much room for improvement ... the mix is perfect as it is.
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Don't tell crap, please.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 07:14
oliverstoned wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Fish Rising would be an interesting album to hear in a surround mix (SACD/DVD-A). But listening to the "normal" version I don't hear much room for improvement ... the mix is perfect as it is.
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Don't tell crap, please. |
I'm not.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 08:24
An overbumped low is not something to wish for a record.
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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 08:30
Obviously some people like their lows overbumped...whatever floats your boat!
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 08:45
Yeah, cause their system is so poor that it give an illusion of having some low...but it's false low...
Not a tensed, quick, deep and dried low.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 09:18
oliverstoned wrote:
Yeah, cause their system is so poor that it give an illusion of having some low...but it's false low...
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Shouldn't we wait for the remastered version to decide which one's better? I remember that you were not very fond of CD remasters anway. How do you know that the remastered version will have "true" lows?
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 09:44
Of course, i don't know at all in advance how these remasters will be.
I'm not against new remasters, many are overall better than the former versions. Most of the time, highs are softer and more detailed -thanks to progress in numeric technology- but the bad trend these days is to overbump the low -especially in the "rock", progrock genre-, thing that they didn't do in the early 90's when CDs were more equilibrated.
So, there's no absolute rule, most of the time, new remasters are better: more information, wider soundstage, better dynamic and softer highs, etc..., but sometimes low are so bumped that it becomes unlistenable on a good neutral system. (Sometimes it's better to unplug the sub).
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Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 15:38
I've really no idea what either of you are talking about, but i'm all for Steve Hillage remasters. They generally sound a lot cleaner and in short: better. Roll on Autumn
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 15:50
^ we're talking about metaphysics ... some of these theories can not be understood.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: June 30 2006 at 17:27
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ we're talking about metaphysics ... some of these theories can not be understood. |
don't tell crap, please - you are talking about pure physics
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 02:50
Which Hillage album is the one with Utopia, i.e. Rundgren, Powell, Sulton and Wilcox?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 04:58
eugene wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ we're talking about metaphysics ... some of these theories can not be understood. |
don't tell crap, please - you are talking about pure physics
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I am not telling crap, but the above question was about what oliver meant by "false lows", "soft highs" etc. ... and that is metaphysics.
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 07:21
Good, I can't wait to get a remasterd version of Fish Rising.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: July 01 2006 at 16:01
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
eugene wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ we're talking about metaphysics ... some of these theories can not be understood. |
don't tell crap, please - you are talking about pure physics
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I am not telling crap, but the above question was about what oliver meant by "false lows", "soft highs" etc. ... and that is metaphysics.
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Your original reply was more funny bearing in mind the context of exchanges, but for some reason you decided to edit it two and a half hours later - what is the reason ? - you realised you forgot to reject "telling crap" in a first message ???
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 04:12
Anyone? Bueller...?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 04:17
^ in my original reply I thought you were oliver, and the text was intended as a response to oliver telling me I'm telling crap again ...
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 04:22
verslibre wrote:
Which Hillage album is the one with Utopia, i.e. Rundgren, Powell, Sulton and Wilcox? |
That would be "L"
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 17:47
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ in my original reply I thought you were oliver, and the text was intended as a response to oliver telling me I'm telling crap again ... |
Exactly! And this was so funny in the context . Hope you see the humorous side of it and do not take it personally.
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Posted By: soundsweird
Date Posted: July 03 2006 at 20:25
Oddly enough, I just listened to "Fish Rising" the other day; it's been years..... Anyway, I thought it could certainly use some remastering; has that sound that a lot of CD's released in the 80's have; too much upper-midrange/treble, giving it a kind of tinny sound (of course, the album has an overall dense sound, with lots of multi-tracked rich sounds). The very high frequencies need to be emphasized, along with the lowest frequencies. Still, the original recording may be the true culprit here: like some of Todd Rundgren's albums in the early to mid-70's, just too much overdubbing, too many effects on instruments, which leaves things muddy in the end.
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 13:19
Great news !!! I saw Hillage in 1979 on the Open tour at Glasgow Apollo. Fan-bloody-tastic
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 13:20
soundsweird wrote:
Oddly enough, I just listened to "Fish Rising" the other day; it's been years..... Anyway, I thought it could certainly use some remastering; has that sound that a lot of CD's released in the 80's have; too much upper-midrange/treble, giving it a kind of tinny sound (of course, the album has an overall dense sound, with lots of multi-tracked rich sounds). The very high frequencies need to be emphasized, along with the lowest frequencies. Still, the original recording may be the true culprit here: like some of Todd Rundgren's albums in the early to mid-70's, just too much overdubbing, too many effects on instruments, which leaves things muddy in the end.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 13:28
Damn-now I have to buy them again!
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Posted By: barney63
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 04:36
Err, haven't some of them already been remastered? I'm sure my copy of the GREatest album Ever seeN is for starters.
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