Kig Crimson - Islands
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Topic: Kig Crimson - Islands
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Subject: Kig Crimson - Islands
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 16:32
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Excellent album. I got it the other day, and it's very very good. The concept is cool too. I wonder why noone mentioned this in any Concept album threads anyway... I didnt write a big review or anything, but I just made this threa ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 19:29
| This is probably my least favorite KC album. They were falling apart, and it shows. |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 14 2004 at 06:08
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I didn't like it at first but there is some 'charm' in it. A very transitional album with some hidden gems. In fact I must play it again tonight. ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 23:12
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I gave it kind of a harsh review, but it ended up with a 3 out of 5 so obviously I don't hate it. It's got an appropriately drifting floating feel, without being bland or generic in any way. It's not an album I put on when I'm in a definite Ki |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: December 18 2004 at 03:06
I took a long time for me before i fully apreciate this one And now, i do love it There are great mom |
Useful_Idiot wrote:Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 20 2004 at 18:51
Yep, same here. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: December 25 2004 at 12:26
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the islans track is one of the best KC's tracks. i like song of seaguls too. formentera lady is excellent! the beatle-esque style of ladies of the road is interesting. the rest has some rare good moments, being too irritating, mainly beca |
Posted By: jiggajake
Date Posted: December 26 2004 at 16:27
| Root pepper, you are my hero, ive been trying to get people to look into buckethead for quite some time, he's the sh*t. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 26 2004 at 17:54
Earthbound is a live album, so I don't count it. |
Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: December 26 2004 at 23:35
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I think Islands was good, head and shoulders above Lizard. But yes, it was evident Crimson was falling apart. The drumming is clearly the most lacking aspect, from what I hear on Islands, Wallace is a terrible drummer. The title track is easily Crimson' |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: December 29 2004 at 05:27
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I really like it, it's a pretty good album overall with some nice moments and nice atmosphere. a typical 4/5 star album not Crimson's best though, obviously, but really good |
Posted By: Gonghobbit
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 11:05
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Not a 'typical' work of theirs, if there is such a thing, but I like it, more of a relax with a doob and chill out album. 'Islands' is a goodie, and i wish they'd do Ladies of the Road nowadays. ------------- 'This is a local shop, there's nothing for you here' |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: January 10 2005 at 11:24
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I think it's one of KC's more under rated albums - rather atypical but better than it's generally given credit for. When I had a vinyl copy I only ever listened to side 1, and occasionally 'Ladies of The Road' (though that song's charm wore of |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 08:11
Islands is my favourite KC album, 'cause it's so warm, gentle, melodic and magic. Soft but still hard
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 08:32
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I quite like Islands, and have done so since the 70s. You have to have room for beauty in your art & life to really appreciate it. ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: omri
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 08:33
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The only problem of Islands is it comes from the same band who made Red, Larks ..., Lizard that achived even higher standards than Islands & In the court .. that was more than any other album revolutionary and inovative at it's time. Islands is just another great album. Anyway, nobody mentioned "The letters". it starts with a letter of a husband lover to his wife and ends with the letter back from the wife saying they (husband & wife) are both dead. In the middle there's a solo guitar that make us see & feel how the wife feels from the immediate shock through anger to death wish and then to kill her husband (I can hear she's poisoning him). one of my favorites ever ! ------------- omri |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 08:55
I concur 100 %! It is uneven when seen in a global perspective, but individually speaking, there are very good pieces in it, sometimes comprising excellent passages. The namesake closing track is plain beautiful, 'Ladies of the Road' is catchy and effective, 'The Letters' is astoundingly dramatic. Yet, it doesn't work as ccohesively as the previous three albums. Burrell's has the right voice for this material, but as a bassist his contributions are somewhat futile. Wallace is an excellent drummer, but he clearly doesn't belong in KC. Collins goes too far with his then bluesy interests - I enjoy his inputs for "Lizard" much more... and listen to his efforts in the song 'Starless', that's how he was supposed to play like as a KC member!! The live stuff by this line-up was quite explosive, but indeed, it was clear for everyone to see that something was being broken in the band's core. Thank God that a few months later Muir, Wetton, Bruford and Cross came along to reinstate the quitaessential Crimsonian prog sound. Regards.
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 08:58
I also agree with Omri's statement. 'The Letters' is my fave track from this album and his analysis of it is accurate. This album is sorely sanwiched between more accomplished and more cohesive albums. By the way... "RED" RULES!! |
Posted By: Keke
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 10:40
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'Charm' is a good word. It doesn't have that immediate magnetism most other KC albums have, but it is somehow ambiental enough to make you listen to it. Formentera Lady, Islands, and Sailor's tale are all great songs when you feel like listening to mellow, slow and moody things. A great album when the time is right... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 11:32
| I like the album. It's probably the most delicate thing KC made... and it has that mediterranean touch that lacked in any other crimson album. I really don't think you can actually hear they are falling apart.... thaye are just experimenting some other roads. Best songs: Formentera Lady, Sailor's Tale, Islands. Yep, Song of the gulls is a little overrated, you'd better listen to classical, but that's a nice try anyway................. |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 11:56
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Taken individually, each song on the album is good, very good, imo (with the exception of Song of the Gulls, which I agree is overrated and is substandard orchestral music). Fripp's demonic guitar solo on "Sailor's Tale" is something I never get tired of hearing. And overall I like the lyrics of all the songs and think they are some of Sinfield's best work. The only drawback to the album is that it doesn't really ever find it's groove, it's center. It meanders around and then just peters out. "Ladies of the Road" is actually the most cohesive song on the album, but a song that only celebrates stripping down groupie girls is not really a strong centerpiece, regardless of how much we as listners wish we had had the experience. I give the album 3.5 stars. It's good, essential King Crimson, but not essential prog rock. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 12:14
| Islands is one of my favourite KC albums and it's UNDERRATED! |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 12:48
Yes its very underrated, i dont realy know why, its so beautiful i think and very atmospheric. It must be that most people and critics thinks its boring or to weird maby, but i think its one of Crimsons many great album, actuly i was a afraid of the album becaus i hade never heard much good about it yust bad revievs and i was afraid it whuld be yust as bad as everyone said, but when i finely bought it the first lisen i yust loved it, K.C. yust culdent do a bad album its yust that easy.  ------------- 
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:28
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ummmm
all are pretty bad ------------- 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:33
I've heard of King Crimson..but KIG Crimson is new to me
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:36
come on.... |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:54
But yeah, Islands is my second favourite Crimson album, it doesnt hold together as well as Lizard but there is that "charm" spoken of earlier. the album is infectuos. |
Posted By: iscariot
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:57
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this album is more free form and more fulfilling than not wearing boxers for a day. that about sums it up. ------------- matters of taste are not open to critique |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 17:26
Lizard is great. Anyway, I like how since you are a KC fan, Zargus saying KC can't make a bad album is 'ok' but me saying they ahve bad albums is wrong. Im stating an opinion I thought that was understood, next time i'll add IMO if you get that bothered about it. -------------
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:58
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"Islands" was an album I've loved from the very first listen....the intro to "Formetera Lady" and how it snakes into "Sailor's Tale" are primo Crimso moments! Don't care if it's under/overrated...it's chamber-jazz rock, a unique concept that, from what I've heard, even Fripp didn't really dig. Is there an LP in all progdom that's even comparable....not better/worse, just comparable? ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 20 2005 at 06:52
"Islands" is an acquired taste, but a taste well worth the acquiring !------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |