Not musical? Want to write a hit single?
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Topic: Not musical? Want to write a hit single?
Posted By: Certif1ed
Subject: Not musical? Want to write a hit single?
Date Posted: June 20 2006 at 02:35
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5083986.stm - Your dreams are answered! ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 20 2006 at 07:35
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Hmm.
"What they have found is just about all hit songs, no matter what genre, fit the same pattern."
What pattern would that be then? How could, for instance, The Birdie Song and U2's Vertigo fit the same pattern?
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 03:29
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The journalist clearly didn't read the quote earlier in his own piece, or twisted the meaning of it to sensationalise the article:
"Mike McCready, CEO of Platinum Blue, says: "If you look at the music that has been invented since Beethoven, all of the hit songs in every new genre conform to the same mathematical patterns." However most of that is tripe, of course - and full of sweeping generalisms. He might just have well said "All songs conform to the same mathematical patterns", which on some levels, they do: All songs have a beginning, an ending and stuff in the middle. As for "Vertigo" and "The Birdie Song", they both have an intro, verses and choruses, a tune and a beat. Lots in common. 
Why did he say "since Beethoven"? Is he saying that Beethoven dumbed down the hit song - or even created it? Beethoven didn't even write songs! And since Beethoven, we've had the awesome Schubert song-cycles - not to mention the other fabulous European composers of that time and later who wrote song cycles. What about the popular jazz hits, the various dances of the 1920s, Music Hall and Vaudeville, the crooners of the early 1950s, Presley, the Beatles et al? There's not much that unites the Beatles hit songs once you get past the obvious structure! Before Beethoven, there are the brilliant baroque Italian songs that every Opera singer gets to learn, such as Giacomo Carissimi's "Vittoria, Vittoria" and Tommaso/Giuseppe Giordani's "Caro Mio Ben", and, of course, the 12th Century songs, more of which are being unearthed every day... and so it goes on. That said, I've no doubt that this software has its use as a tool in the studio - and no doubt that people will actually have hits using it. Some people will buy anything if the right people tell them it's good. 
/end rant 
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 02 2006 at 23:20
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very interesting Mark -------------  
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 05 2006 at 20:35
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"The only technology I would use to pick a hit is my ears. I would not listen to a computer," he said. That about sums up my opinion on that matter.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: July 06 2006 at 07:22
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Isn't it really old news that the success of a song can be calculated with a formula? I heard it about two years ago.
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Posted By: EssentialFaris
Date Posted: July 28 2006 at 12:09
| yeah, thats all crap, and pretty much all hit songs in the past 10 years blow anyway. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 15:13
Heh! It's a form of alchemy - no-one can predict what "the kids" will buy, and many have tried as long ago as the 1950s. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Rosescar wrote: