Kraan question?
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Topic: Kraan question?
Posted By: DallasBryan
Subject: Kraan question?
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 14:12
| What is your favorite album by Kraan, the German answer to Steely Dan and Alan Parsons Project? |
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 14:16
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Studio - their debut, although it's a close call between the first three.
The ultimate Kraan album has to be the 1975 live double - the first line up was amazing, and I'm only sorry I never caught them live myself. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 14:58
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My favourite is off course their first and the live album from 1975: explosive kraut/jazz with fine "weird" ethnic experimentations in sound and effective improvisations (a great mention to the sax parts). After "Let it out" the band's creativity just goes down. A legitimate recommendation for fans of Out of Focus, Embryo and Dzyan.
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 15:01
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Can you tell me what is the relationship with the Alan Parsons project? Personally I consider that they have nothing in common in every terms. -------------
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 15:33
Agreed Chris, except for that very deceiving second album
But Steely Dan and APP  ???????------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Syzygy wrote:Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 15:52
| oh well, the more commercial (after Andy Nogger) Kraan reminds me being maybe unique and poppish as Steely Dan was to the US and Alan Parsons Project was to the UK. No one else sounds like them and they were all quite popular for a time period. They all sort of broke away from the pack and at least for a couple of albums created classic music. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 15:57
Huh? You can't be serious! They have nothing whatever to do with either of them! -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 17:52
| The only album I have heard by them is Kraan Live (1975). Fantastic album though, it would have made for one amazing concert. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 11:51
| Absolutely the Live album. Personally I can't think of any direct parallels. A band that starts out electric sax, bass player taking the lead, lead guitarist who tended to play rhythm.............. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 11:51
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when I think of schools of Progressive Rock I think of California, London and Berlin. Steely Dan, Alan Parsons Project and Kraan represent a second wave of more popular styled progressive or intelligent music from the late 70's. All 3 mixed either progressive lyrics or musical content and often innovation and a sound that was unmistakenly identifiable to each band after the mainstream of psychedelic music in California, progressive music in London and krautrock in Berlin had peaked and was being pushed out by the recording industries. In my mind these 3 bands are almost unclassifiable because of their mix of popular music in their culture with what could be considered progressive stylings. All 3 created a string of either good or great music into the later 70's. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 04:33
Bryan,
your point is a bit valid, except for one thing
Kraan like many German groups (from AD II to Can, and harder edged groups like Wallenstein, Gila , Guru Guru, etc...) enjoyed a very raw , rough-edged sound (as opposed to the neat and impeccable US and UK production values).
Steely Dan and APP are the exact opposite, being very slick (maybe too much for my taste) , easy on the ears. This is why your original statement astounded me  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 08:35
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I have Andy Nogger, and it is quite good, but lacks something that all the other Krautrock bands had, don't know what, but it's enough to hold me off from getting one of their other albums
It is definitely far more accessible than most krautrock
Aaron
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 08:43
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'Kraan Live'
I remember a great 'Kraan' concert at the Academy Of Arts in Düsseldorf together with Jango Edwards. 'Andy Nogger' second choice. ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 09:38
Listen to their later 70's output for that slick sound, Let it Out, Weiderhoren and Flyday
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 09:40
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^^^^
I must say I never got farther than that famous double live album, so I cannot get a hold of those albums unless buying them ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 11:54
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IMO Let it Out is better than Andy Nogger and should be in every proggers collection. It is the last album with Johannes Pappert and brings on Kathargo's keyboardist. It was made after Kraan started touring quite alot in England and I think they did a few dates in the States also. Kraan had obvious been influenced partially by Donald Fagan. |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: June 22 2006 at 06:26
Hugues do you know the '2001' shops in Germany? The last time I went there they had nearly all re-editions of Kraan on sale.
http://www.zweitausendeins.de/ - http://www.zweitausendeins.de/ ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 22 2006 at 07:45
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^^^^^
checked your link up, Martin
My German is very rusty
is this a store chain? If so, I could not find a shop in either AAchen or Köln (Cologne), the closest from Belgium
they do not appear to have Kraan, or Ougenweide for that matter a fact
We go on a record shopping spree in Köln once or twice a year (generally a car full of four or five progheads full of cash) and go to the big Saturn store (not the one downtown, but the one out on the boulevard), and usually come back with 10 Cds each.
Interesting price on non-domestic rock, but the German Cds are anything but cheap.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: June 23 2006 at 10:35
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Hugues,
They have a store chain,(in the beginning it was an alternative book shop in the 70's named after the Kubrick movie) the nearest from you must be Düsseldorf but there is one in Cologne too. their offer is not very big, and they change their programm every two months, but they sell often very interesting packages from one label the last time I went there they had an offer on 'Eclectic' records, ('Egg', Touch, Khan) quite cheap, they have a lot of Musical DVD's too. Check it out the next time you go to Cologne it' not very far from 'Saturn', you have a map when you click on the city link.
------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 23 2006 at 11:09
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^^^^^^^^^^
How come when I checked it out yesterday, I could not find it.
But well noted, next time we head to Koln, we have one more shop to check out (after two used record shop) and an alternative museum always exposing stuff from the 60's and 70's.
Thanks, Martin ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Seyo
Date Posted: June 23 2006 at 11:22
I heard only Kraan Live 1975 so this is my favourite!
Nothing to do with either SD or APP, don't be mislead by any categorizations you may have read. Just listen yourself and decide.
BTW I love SD and see nothing special in APP.
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Posted By: Forkface
Date Posted: June 23 2006 at 17:57
| Kraan - Live 1975. I'm with the majority on this one. |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: June 26 2006 at 16:24
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I love Kraan and have all their albums.They are all good in their own way.
My favorite is Wiederhoren.
\They are working on a album right now.
They have a great website.
http://www.kraan.dk - www.kraan.dk
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: June 26 2006 at 16:31
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Only heard Wiederhoren, while it's good, I don't listen to it that often, though. I think it's in need of a relisten soon.
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 23 2008 at 13:26
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Posted By: Detric
Date Posted: May 23 2008 at 15:55
| Their debut holds a special place in my heart so ill go for that one. But these guys are just amazing, they have put out 4-5 albums that I absolutely love. |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: May 23 2008 at 16:50
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Kraan rules.
I like the later stuff better.
It's not too quirky ,just nice mellow kraut.
Looking forward to their new album as a 3 piece.
Anyways Detric...where you from in DK.?
I used to live in Copenhagen ,but am now in Canada.
Skaal
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Posted By: KrakAtack
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 01:44
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Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 02:42
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Their first album is outstanding:Kraanarabia is my favourite track,MC Escher is very good too ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 02:56
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I saw them in March 1977 when they supported the newly formed Van der Graaf at The Chalk Farm Roundhouse.They did an amazing version of 'Holiday am Matterhorn' which lasted for about 15 minutes.
My favourite albums are Andy Nogger,Live 75 and the debut. ------------- 
Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |