Dream Theater or Symphony X
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Topic: Dream Theater or Symphony X
Posted By: Into_Oblivion
Subject: Dream Theater or Symphony X
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 20:33
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I used to listne to Dream Theater alot and then i discovered Symphony X. and while I was sitting around one day listening to music. I thought Who is better Symphony X or Dream Theater? I'll let you be th the judge. ------------- I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. |
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 20:37
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Dream Theater without a doubt. Symphony X's career just hasn't climbed to the point of Dream Theater's. Symphony X can't do the same calibur of a live performance and can't produce the depth of an epic Dream Theater can. Symphony X's albums are weaker than Dream Theater's on a song to song basis. -------------  
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Posted By: OrionCrystalIce
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 20:41
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Symphony X gives me the runs, but so does most recent DT. What I think needs to be established is that 'Awake' has been done and neither band will ever do it as good again. ------------- black star, white light 
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Posted By: Time-Machinist
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 20:52
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Symphony X creates much better compositions generally, i think. They have some technically weak songs, i accept but even they have a seductive power on me mostly. D.T. is technically more diverse, excluding the tasteless vocals. But most of their songs don't appeal to my soul. IMO, D.T. will never create an album in the quality of V...
In the end, without D.T., i don't know whether S.X. would exist or not. But if yes, their music would have been more different; no one can guess in a positive or negative way. And if no, Michael Romeo's genius would not have remained undiscovered and would be universally accepted in a different project!
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:02
| Both amazing bands ... but Dream Theater is the top of Prog Metal, and Symphony X is on the second place. And DT is more prog ... |
Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:05
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cheesy :) i like them equally i guess, voted s_x to even out the poll :) |
Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:09
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this has been done at least 8 times, and each time i've voted symphony x--and that's not about to change now. i find dream theater rather dull/uninspiring (except for a few tracks on Train of Thought--that's their only album i actually enjoy [and i'll probably be told off by DTFan#1 for that...and all the other numbers]).
Symphony X i find much more emotionally rousing, with their backing choir arrangements and more intense metal compositions. V: TNMS is a wonderful achievement... ------------- I'm a reasonable man, get off my case |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:37
| Dream Theater. The last two SX albums were fantastic, though. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:48
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DT = amazing. SymX = cheesy, overblown and boring. William Hung = owns both. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Into_Oblivion
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:55
I agree 100% im so stupid for not including William Hung and Kenny Loggins.  ------------- I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. |
The Miracle wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 22:33
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Symphony X for micky.... really liked the little I've heard from them.. really disliked the 5 or 6 songs I've heard from Dream Theater... though I did buy an album from them yesterday.. so I'll give them a fair shot. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 22:36
hahahhah *micky ponders the age old question.... castration or a hole in the head* William Hung > Moonchild > Dream Theater ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 22:52
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^^^Agreed. ------------- I'm a reasonable man, get off my case |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:07
Did I just see that???
 ... Mikey bought a Dream Theater album??? Which album??? I'm betting on Images & Words (1992) or possibly though not as likely Metropolis Pt II: Scenes From a Memory (1999)...
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Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:13
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Vocals Labrie vs. Allen - Allen wins without a doubt I think everyone but the fanboys (even some of them perhaps) can agree that Labrie sucks.
Guitar Petrucci vs. Romeo - Romeo wins, yes Petrucci is probably slightly technically better but he is a total w**ker WHEE LOOK AT HOW FAST I CAN PLAY MY SCALES MOMMY!!! Not that Romeo is devoid of w**king but I think its slightly les
Keyboard: Moore/Sherinian/Rudess vs. Pinnella - DT wins, I think Moore might be the best overall prog-metal keyboardist, after he left DT started going downhill Pinnella doesnt do nearly as much for Symphony X though he is undoubtably good. Sherinians work with DT and Rudess dont do much for me.
Bass: Myung vs. Miller/Lepond - again all thee are quite good, im gonna say Myung is a bit better.
Drums: Portnoy vs. Rullo - Portnoy without a doubt.
Composition/Influence - DT has much more influence, and in their prime (with Moore) better compositions, but nowadays Symphony X is better. Overall ill go with DT
DT wins slightly by this account ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:23
...And here it is!!!
Let me start out by saying that Symphony X has never done an album with the creative ambition of Dream Theater's Scenes From a Memory, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, and Awake. Symphony X has never been able to pull off the structure and depth to their shorter songs or epics.
Dream Theater consistently does more interesting things with time signatures, key signatures, timbre, and the structure of their epics.
Symphony X has never written a piece with the structrual depth of Octavarium. Both of Symphony X's epics the Divine Wings of Tragedy and the Odyssey fail to change timbre. The Odyssey places a novice orchestral introduction, but then shifts instantly shifts to a metal timbre never to chance. Octavarium shifts through a psychodelic keyboard intro, soft melancholic prog, almost neo-prog, technical instrumental, metal, and professionally orchestrated timbres.
Dream Theater is also much more creative than Symphony X with chordal harmony. Neither Dream Theater or Symphony X have amazing harmony between instruments, but unlike Symphony X, Dream Theater experiments with different types of chord structures. This comes from the jazzy touches Dream Theater has. Symphony X's strict metal roots limit them from exploring modes and other forms of diatonic harmony. Major and minor triads along with root fifth chords are Symphony X's only harmonic tool.
The rythymnic element of Symphony X doesn't even stand a chance against Dream Theater. Symphony X primarily sticks to basic 4/4 rythymns. Dream Theater is not afraid to shift between 4/4, 3/4, 5/4, 11/4, 6/8, 7/8, 14/16, and 15/16 signatures. The bass playing and drumming in Symphony X also lack creativity. John Myung supports melodies in ways Mike LePond just doesn't have the abiity. Jason Rullo just doesn't have the flair for the dramatic or the solo capabilities Portnoy has. -------------
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Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:32
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:32
Actually I have to disagree with you on every account you believe Symphony X has the edge.
James LaBrie's performance on Images and Words blows anything from Russell Allen away. Actually, Russell Allen's best performance isn't even with Symphony X. It's with Ayreon on Dawn of a Million Souls. Allen's voice is too gruff. He sounds like he can beat a listener up by merely singing at him. Allen has operatic training, but he doesn't refine his tools. James LaBrie in the studio showcases more range, sustains notes in tune better, and enunciates better. James LaBrie's vocal harmonies on Images and Words and Scenes From a Memory are also superior to Allen's primarily single track style.
LaBrie also has the ability to sing ballads, Allen's ballad vocals are essentially there just for a vocal element. Allen can't make a song like Wait For Sleep, Space Dye Vest, or Vacant come for form. He's just too agressive.
Petrucci is not a mindless w**ker. He has carried as many catchy melodies for the band as shred unisons and solos. Romeo can't play with the passion that Petrucci does on The Spirit Carries On. Romeo can't shread like Petrucci does on Dance of Eternity. Romeo can't compose the chordal guitar harmony Petrucci does on stream of conciusness. Don't even get me started on overdubs.
Myung absolutely blows Miller and LePond away on bass. Miller and LePond sound more like generic metal musicians with tapping skills. Myung sounds like a full fledged player.
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Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:45
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Miller at least is pretty good, however if you will notice i had Myung winning that. Labrie might be more technically better but his voice is whiney and he cant hit pitches live. Romeo has a better metal voice. yes Petrucci had some great stuff on IanW as well as on WDADU and Awake and yes Stream of Consciousness is a great song (one of the few things past SFAM I like by them.) But nowadays he doesnt say anything on the guitar he just shows how fast he can paly. Dont get me wrong I love technical ability, better to have it then not have it. But technical ability for its own sake is pointless, you have to use to say create atmosphere, emotion etc. not that Romeo is great at that either but he says rudimentary things on his guitar, Petrucci says nothing. Im sure Romeo cant touch Petrucci shredding on Dance Of Eternity, but shredding is overrated and many a times unnecassary. just out of curiosity do you prefer the band Thergothon, or the CD 6 degress of Inner Turbulence? ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: Into_Oblivion
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:58
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I Highly Disagree with Atlossforwords. Russel Allens Vocals definently kicks James LaBrie in the balls. I also agree with Walrus 333 that Romeo is definently better at guitar than petrucci. And i think DT has the upper hand on Keyboards,Bass, And Drums. It really makes me mad when people act like DT is SUPERIOR to all other Prog-Metal Bands and that is very untrue. ------------- I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:58
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Symphony X = Great, But I like DT slightly better. Meshuggah PWNS'em both though ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 00:10
Romeo may have the slight edge in sheer chops but Petrucci has him beat in versatility by a long shot. -------------
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 00:26
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Dream Theater has an edge in Symphony X in everything, But Symphony X is a good band also. . . just not as good as DT
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 00:40
 Well said! -------------
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Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 01:19
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DT
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Posted By: Time-Machinist
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 07:50
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Labrie vs. Allen? No DT fanboy must not cross the line! Trust your ears, not your "D.T. is better than everything" judgement!
1-They use different vocal techniques, and it is not very proper to compare them.
2-Allen obviously does what he does far more better than Labrie...
3-As a glam influenced vocalist, can Labrie be better than John West? Of course nooo!
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Posted By: Progshrike
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 08:17
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I used to be a big Dream Theater fan until I went to Gigantour last year and FYE had a tent to meet the bands and get your CD signed. Dream Theater was the only band, even Dave Mustaine came out to meet people, that didn't come out to meet anyone. You could get your CD signed but they did it backstage. I lost a lot of respect for DT over this. Then after the show we got to hang around by the buses, a buddy of mine is good friends with Megadeth's sound guy, and Russ Allen stood and talked to us for over an hour. He was one of the coolest people I've met and I walked away a lot bigger SymX fan. By the way DT was nowhere to be found after the show. ------------- Did you ever think for yourself? Just once,did you ever think? That's all I want to know> |
Posted By: bapazian
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 08:28
I agree with this though DT can be cheesy at times as well just less often (all prog metal can get cheesy i guess). I think what really kills me about symphony X is the really cheesy lyrics/vocals talking about slaying dragons and sh*t, just doesn't do it for me. Saw them live at Gigantour though and they're def more fun to hear live, same goes for DT. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/bapazian/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 08:43
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Symphony X has the edge over DT because they keep progressive power metal HEAVY without ever sounding 'neo-prog', as DT seems to be so fond of doing.
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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 11:12
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Symphony X!
Their compositions are by far more interesting, there's always a harmony of the parts within every song and they have a much bigger longevity. Of course they are pretty much a neo-classical band, with not so many Jazzier parts, but since they use different types of classic music out of various epochs I can't call it boring and furthermore their blend of metal and symphonic, classical music is just unique, imo. Saying that SymphonyX are stuck in 4/4 rhythms is absolutely untrue, of course they use them, but in combination with A LOT OF other rhythms. I find Dt rather boring, their metal sound is to overblown and the neo-prog influence just isn't as great as the true neo-prog bands.
What's your problem with that? They are a metal band, not a pink floyd cover group and I'm really thankfull that they didn't exceeded the first part too long, since it would be probably a lot more draggy. I can understand that some people like Dream Theater, I don't... ------------- 
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 13:20
Why don't we give Dream Theater credit for keeping lame power metal influence out of progressive metal?  -------------
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Posted By: Dream Theater
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 15:05
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I think Dream Theater is a big Symphony X influence and that's why I voted for DT.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 15:09
because DT is progressive power metal, just minus the heavy. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 15:48
There's no power metal influence in DT. They don't sing about nights, they don't do boring gallop rythymns. Dream Theater is about x1000 more prog than Symphony X. -------------
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Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 22:08
I definately agree on the more Prog part. -------------
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Posted By: Vendetta2321
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 00:04
But you also have to remember that most of DT went to Berkley, a school dedicated to music theory making most of the stuff they do to me (being a musician) not that impressive because they learned it form the best of the best at music college. Michael Romeo as I remember him say is mostly self taught, which by the type of music he writes is very, very impressive. John Petrucci is also in my opinion one of the most overrated guitarists out there today (Don’t kill me for that). Also listen to DT's vocals are well repellent to their music... c'mon can you seriously say that James LaBrie's voice is good? I also don't find Dream Theater that entertaining. I will say that though I do find some DT songs entertaining their music overall just doesn’t do it for me. Symphony X on the other hand has a lot of songs i really can get into. I think I would be able to get more into DT if they had a different singer and JP mixed his playing up some more, I mean c'mon do you really need every solo to be 260 BPM? and does everything have to be some sort of the Diminished run? But that’s just my 2 cents... |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 01:41
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I like Symphony X's ideas more but Dream Theater is more interesting and enjoyable to listen to. ------------- 
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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 07:15
fully agreed! -------------
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 15:30
Some people don't like LaBrie, so I can understand that part. I love his voice, it's well enunciate with great range and is operatically trained. LaBrie's vocal harmonies are some of the very best in the genre. Other than Neal Morse, there's no vocalist that I would rather sing along while I listen to than James LaBrie.
What you are saying about Petrucci is nothing but flame. I happen to think he's very underrated. He has the technical ability of guys like Vai, Satriani, and Malmsteen, but he's rarely mentioned in the same sentance. When people talk about G3 they talk about obviously Vai and others, but rarely speak of Petrucci's talents which are more than a match for guys like Malmsteen who are one dimensional players.
Not every solo by Petrucci is shredding at 260 bpm is "The Spirit Carries On" at a fast tempo, no, it's a 12/8 bluesy solo featuring precise bends and etc. Petrucci is x1000 times more verstile than Romeo. Romeo is a metal guitarist. He doesn't have the jazz and blues elements in his playing that Petrucci does. -------------
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Posted By: Time-Machinist
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 16:50
| You should stop that x1000 thing. Dream Theater is not x1000 times prog than Symphony X; and Petrucci is not x1000 times more versatile than Romeo. Should i say Allen is x1000 times more versatile or better than Labrie? No, that's not my style. "I" try to be more objective... |
Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 16:51
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haha, who said DT was a power prog band? that is not very true :\ |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 16:53
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Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 16:57
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have i said this before??
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 16:59
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at the last two posts. -------------
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 14:45
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SYmphony X write songs and add technical moments
DT write songs as pretext to show off
Symphony X have the best prog metal vocalist
DT has Labrie, the most annoying vocalist ever
Symphony X are consistent in putting out quality albums and remain true to their style
DT have Octavarium, Scenes from a Memory, two albums I find WAY too overrated...
Need I say more ?
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 14:50
Welcome to the club of DT bashers! We always accept new members with great enthusiasm.. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 14:52
hahahah... that's right.. come join the light... step away from the dark side... much pain and w**kerery do I sense there ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 14:53
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 15:00
I don't know how you can say that when Octavarium:
a) ha hardly any showing off, or at least no more than Images and Words or Awake
b) is comprised entirely (except maybe the title track, but even considering that, no prog fan should consider the majority of that track showing off, lest they consider all of prog showing off) of coherent songs. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 15:13
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Pain of Salvation? lol ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 15:14
Yea, comprised of some coherent songs they STOLE. Plagiarism is not my idea of something good. However, they do not show off on that record, I will give you that. ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:04
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^ If you can make a claim that they stole a song and committed plagiarism, prove it. Provide links to scores of the songs that they plagiarized as well as the score for the song that is suspect so I can compare the two. I am intrigued by this, because so many people say that they copied music on Octavarium.
Common examples:
"Oh, the intro to "Octavarium is such a rip-off of Pink Floyd."
--Which song? "Shine On" you might say. Do you really, truly think they ripped off that song? Just because a guitar solos over airy synth chords does not mean anybody is plagiarizing anybody!!! Ever think that Dream Theater liked how that sounded. If nobody did anything like any other kind of music, then Fantomas and Mr. Bungle would be the only artists not quilty of plagiarism!!!!
"Oh, the intro to "Never Enough" sounds exactly like Muse."
--Do you ever think that maybe Muse needs to get a different sound or do something different if just 13 seconds of a Dream Theater song can be attributed to a band's entire catelog!!!
I know it may be hard to legally acquire scores to Dream Theater and Pink Floyd/Muse/whatever band's music that Dream Theater so obviously plagiarized, but if your going to condemn them and brush off songs because the band OBVIOUSLY STOLE music from other bands (Who surely didn't borrow ideas they liked from other bands. Heaven forbid!!!), you better be able to prove it. Or maybe it's just a simple case of Dream Theater writing a song without doing something radically new and just making enjoyable music (enjoyable if you didn't know it was Dream Theater beforehand, that is....)? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:21
whoa... seriously claims indeed... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:22
Great post Stony, but I think it's more that Dream Theater took influence from those particular bands and songs, and that is very apparent on Octavarium. That's why they have to whole lyrical section in the middle of the title track. Octavarium was their eighth album and 20th anniversary album, and they wanted to make an album that shows where a lot of their influence comes from. The album is somewhat of a tribute to certain bands like Genesis, Pink Floyd, and etc. There are some similar ideas that both bands used, but it's very hard to make a case that any songs are plagarized. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:24
it's a shame how some people can't differentiate between an homage or outright stealing. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:30
Sources have informed me that the follow up to Octavarium is titled "Plagiarism." Although under oath I might admit to making that one up.... 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:36
hahaha... now that is not constructive and you just screwed up my olive branch to all the DT fans I've offended. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt... oh well.. now you've given me the green light to wage unrestricted war on Dream Theater again.............. thanks! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:42
Quite a speedy informant you have there.
Is this him?
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:45
the URL has "reedlover" in it. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 20:47
*micky spills tea in lap having given up beer because of mass wasteage* ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: July 30 2006 at 21:10
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DT
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 15:00
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I bought the Divine Wings of Tragedy, and it was the only real disappointment I've had for an album that I've purchased. Meanwhile, I love DT and have half of their albums (Images and Words, Awake, Scenes from a Memory, and Octavarium). Soon I'll buy Six Degrees... ------------- 
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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 17:39
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Dream Theater. I have THE ODYSSEY and THE DIVINE WINGS OF TRAGEDY by SymX, and as much as I like 'em, they seem to come off as crass DT clones. ------------- Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 18:07
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strangely enough... Symphony X.... heard only one song that was sent to
me as a sample a couple of years ago. Never heard anything else but I
liked what I heard.. .which put it miles above DT. Symphony X for micky  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 18:51
You've told me you like metal before, and Symphony X is definately more metal and less prog than Dream Theater.
For a metal fan, I could easily see how Symphony X would be favored, but for a sophisticated listener of progressive music such as yourself, I don't understand why you wouldn't enjoy Dream Theater more.
Note-99% of Symphony X's heavy guitar rythmns are stolen from the intro of Dream Theater's "Under a Glass Moon" on Images and Words. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 22:13
I'm really at a loss to describe my metal... likes and dislikes... it's like love.... you don't really choose... it chooses you... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 22:30
Way to have a sound opinion of a whole band's career on only one song Mikey. Wait a minute... Didn't i send you that song???
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 22:35
hahah.... I did say my opinion was based on only one song hahha... I did like it and I think it was you... or Troy Ponce. it was a long time ago haha. I left my mp3 player at home this morning.. I overslept and was late to work hahaha. I'll do double duty tomorrow.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 11:28
You sound like someone who has never even heard Symphony X and cannot accept the fact that some might prefer them over DT... as if six albums worth of heavy prog material could be taken from one riff ? COME ON, GIVE UP THE FAN BOY ATTITUDE, you prefer DT, fine with me, they are still better than the majority of crap that passes for music nowadays and deserve their rightful place among prog metal greats (being the originators of that style), but to each his own. I might have become a DT basher, but not a DT Fan basher... yet !
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 13:14
Listen to "Under a Glass Moon" and then listen to "Divine Wings of Tragedy" no the album is not a complete ripoff, but the choppy guitar rythmns and the choruses are blatently taken from that song. Maybe with different vocal patterns are different, there is an awful lot of matierial that Symphony X has taken from that song.
I really like more "epic" and "softer" Symphony X songs like "The Accolade", "Lady of the Snow", and "Communion and the Oracle", but I really don't care for their metal songs like "Of Sins and Shadows" at all.
I hate to break it to you, but I have heard Symphony X, I have five or their albums, and I can easily make a case why they are more metal than prog. -------------
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 14:12
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[/QUOTE] Listen to "Under a Glass Moon" and then listen to "Divine Wings of Tragedy" no the album is not a complete ripoff, but the choppy guitar rythmns and the choruses are blatently taken from that song. Maybe with different vocal patterns are different, there is an awful lot of matierial that Symphony X has taken from that song.
I really like more "epic" and "softer" Symphony X songs like "The Accolade", "Lady of the Snow", and "Communion and the Oracle", but I really don't care for their metal songs like "Of Sins and Shadows" at all.
I hate to break it to you, but I have heard Symphony X, I have five or their albums, and I can easily make a case why they are more metal than prog. [/QUOTE]
My apologies, it is true that Symphony X are more metal than prog. Would the category 'Symphonic Power Prog Metal' be suitable? I think so, as they have power metal elements which DT don't have, and I know that power metal can be gruesome to some. They have enough prog elements to be compared to DT though.
Peace !
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