Lets talk about primus
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Topic: Lets talk about primus
Posted By: anotherpigfloyd
Subject: Lets talk about primus
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:47
| have someone hear this band? I am not sure if they are prog but they have an amazing bass player and drummer, I have some of their cds and I thinck that their best may be The Antipop, or the pork soda if you havent hear them, check out this albums(however they have stupid lyrics ) |
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:57
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There have been many discussions on whether they are prog or not. I don't think so but I do enjoy the four albums I have from them. Antipop was very good I thought and kind of went away from the Seas of Cheese, Pork Soda and punchbowl albums and that was a good thing. Although Pork Soda and Cheese were good, it got to be a bit stale on punchbowl I thought. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:07
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This should be in the "Non - prog music", but those forums are like the lower circles of hell... anyway, Primus is a very funny band. I agree on the Punchbowl comment; they kind of lost control of the album after the 4th track. Sometimes, I got the feeling that all songs in their albums are not ment to go toghether; I get a little tired sometimes; still, excellent at I'll say 70%, wich is good enough. They were on fire on "Sailing the seas of cheese"... ------------- ĦBeware of the Bee! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:14
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For one thing,Primus are in the archives under Prog-Related.
And I think their best albums are Sailing the Seas of Cheese and Tales from the Punchbowl. -------------  |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 13:31
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love Primus.. one of the great T.V. experiences was watching them perform Wyonna's Big Brown Beaver on the Letterman show. Remember my girlfriends reaction clearly.... what the HELL is THAT hahah... she was a classical nut. I just love that song hahahah. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:19
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I should have said "I don't think they are prog, but they are listed on PA" as I knew that. Wynonna's Big Brown Beaver is a good song from Punchbowl. The story at the time was that it was pronounced like Winona Ryder (short I) but spelled like Wynonna Judd (long I) so you couldn't easily identify which celebrity they might have been talking about. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 14:29
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Yeah, I don't think they are full on prog either... I still love them though. If they were in a Prog Genra I'd say they fall somewhere between Rio/Avant, Phychedelic/Space Rock and Prog Funk with a dash of Metal. ------------- 
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 16:56
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prog or not, one thing's for sure: they're a damn good band. it's hard to appreciate the scope and talent of this band without seeing them live to witmess all the mayhem. Les uses at least 5 different kinds of bass during any show (including fretless, upright, and the one-string 'whamola'), not to mention they do extended versions of just about every song when played live. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 17:28
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Les is a monster. Sometimes though his bass rules songs so much that the guitar is an afterthought. When he lets the guitarist do some work, that's when they really cook. I saw somewhere that Les tried out for Metallica after Burton died but was too funky for them and he was pretty crushed he didn't get in. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 17:46
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I first got to know Claypool via Oysterhead (which impressed me when I first heard it), then Bucket of Bernie Brains (fine album indeed) and Frog Brigade (truly wonderful), after which Oysterhead sounded a bit less impressive.
Then I came to Primus. Tales From The Punchbowl was the first one I picked up and I was mightily impressed, but then I bough Pork Soda and somehow it just doesn't work for me. I'll probably tackel Sailing the Seas of Cheese next - my local second hand CD shop always has a few Primus albums in stock for some reason.
I don't think Claypool has made a 5* album yet, but it's the fact that he's prepared to go out on a limb and take risks that makes him so good. I'd sooner listen to a patchy but adventurous album than another tired retread of 70s symphonic prog or another collection of prog metal cliches . ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 20:36
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Primus sucks!
My fave is Tales..., followed closely by Sailing... |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:33
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They are so odd, funny, and amazing. I am blown away everytime I listen to "Sailing the Seas of Cheese." Certain things just make me stop and say, 'wow!' A friend played me a collection of covers they did. They do a very cool version of XTC's "Making Plans for Nigel." ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:38
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Primus is one of my favorite bands. Not only are they from my area, their musicianship and creativity is off the charts, in my opinion. ------------- 
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Posted By: Into_Oblivion
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:50
You Have no Idea what your talking about.. Antipop is one of their worst. Their best is something Like Frizzle Fry Or Sailing Th Seas Of Cheese. And I listend to Nothing But Primus for about 6 months I have 6 of their cds, and I think they are one of the best bands of all time!!
Les Claypool is the Best Bass Player of all time By far. no one even comes close. ------------- I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. |
johnobvious wrote:Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 21:54
Yeah, he and Kirk Hammett were friends in high school. It was said (by Claypool) that in high school Hammett was a burnout who would always play an imaginary G chord on guitar and he would say, "That'll be the moneymaker someday"... or something to that effect.  -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 22:02
plus originality ahhahah  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 22:08
That, too.  -------------
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 22:35
I will always praise Les, but have you ever heard of a guy named Jaco Pastorius? ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 22:45
or Victor Wooten... Les is a hell of a player...but let's not get carried away here hahah ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 23:46
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I got introduced to Primus when I was playing the first Tony Hawk Pro Skater game. "Jerry Was a Racecar Driver" was one of the songs in the playlist of the game and I loved it! I only have two of their albums on CD. I need to get more! Great band! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 01:21
Primus = amazing. 
Claypool is my favorite bassist
Tim has a huge impact on my drumming style.
Larry is an amazing guitarist. I don't think it could have worked with anyone else
Every album is amazing
Sailing the seas of cheese, frizzle fry, and pork soda are my favorites.
They are progressive whether this site says they are or not.
I don't get the whole Jaco Pastorius thing.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 01:30
The way I heard the story is that Hetfield and Lars turned him away because he was too good to be playing in a band with this sort of format where the bass wouldn't play such an integral role. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 02:19
| They are a great band, but their albums are pretty inconsistent. I can only really enjoy about half of the material on an average Primus album. I think a couple (Sailing the Seas for sure) aren't too bad in that area though. |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 10:58
I never said Cheese and PS were bad, I just thought they needed to try something a bit different and they did with Anitpop and I love that album. If the only thing you have listened to for 6 months is Primus, then I will take with a grain of salt your comment that "I have no idea what I am talking about." This is not the site for you, my friend. Go hang out on a Primus board somewhere. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 11:04
Primus=
I'm seeing Les Claypool in concert, it's gonna kick ass.
I only have Tales from the Punchbowl and it's freakin awesome, I love how the foundation for the music is the bass and Les Claypool voice is so wacky. Kinda like a combination of Zappa and Rush, which is really cool. -------------  
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 12:55
There's also some King Crimson in there, too. -------------
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 13:02
Yes, especially in the percussion and guitar. -------------
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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 15:27
Just imagine how different of a direction that band would've probably taken. As for Primus, they make me glad that Les wasn't let into Metallica. They are truly one of my favorite bands. Their songs are quirky, yet caontain so much energy and you can really bang your head to them. Herb and Les are top quality rockers, and Ler isn't too bad either, although his solos seem to usually go nowhere. They are a blend of Rush, Metallica, Sly Stone, and Zappa. Amazingly wierd and amazingly awesome. ------------- 
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 16:37
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Yes, the great thing about them is that they are unique. Hard to come up with another band like them that I know of anyway. And the guy who started this thread panned the lyrics, but are you really going to put serious lyrics about love and the meaning of life to those songs? I love me some of those lyrics. Listening top Les Claypool's Frog Brigade doing PF Dogs on internet radio right now. Cool ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: _sam_
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 21:51
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Les Claypool is definitely the driving force behind Primus, and the source of its deranged humor and music. Without his unique deep bass tone and rhythms, Primus just wouldn't be Primus.
Les is a godly bassist/songwriter and all, but Ler himself is still awesome in his own right. Ler's real talent comes in the fact that he knows when enough is enough; when to hold back, and when to let loose. That's a talent that a good deal of guitarists lack. And, his wacky playing is a perfect match for Les' own unique stylings!
Tim "Herb" Alexander is a wild drummer, who also has a very unique style that Brain didn't capture quite as well (not to say that Brain wasn't good, of course).
Primus is the result of this match made in heaven (or rather, hell) and one of the most talented and original bands still around today.
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Posted By: Mr. Krinkle
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 00:06
Yeah, i totally agree with your coment on "Ler" Lalonde. he do knows when to hold it up, and when he does, even if you dont play all the atention on it cause the bass is doing some weird incredible riff, gives all this and "color", totally grounds the mood of the music, without him it wouldnt be Primus. Good example is a song called "the ol' diamondback sturgeon" on the Pork Soda. there he keeps low profile while the bass is doing its thing, but puts the flavour to the melody. after that he explodes into a wonderful solo, one of my all time favourites. man i love primus, ahs been my favorite band for a long time, i think all their work, in each album, has something valuable and unique. my fovorites are from Salinig the seas of cheese, to the (for me the best work) Tales From The Punchbowl. Primussucks!! ------------- [IMG]http://pics-50.hi5.com/userpics/850/182/182675850.img.jpg"> |