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Topic: "Crime Of The Century" supertramp
Posted By: the musical box
Subject: "Crime Of The Century" supertramp
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 15:51
its very good, although some songs are reall y POPPY! I like the concept and there are a few outstanding tracks, namely "bloody well right" and "Crime of the century". i can see why Supertramp doesnt get much mention on this site, but they are a talented g

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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 17:52
Bloody well right is in my top 10 of most irritating songs of all time. But the rest of the album is very much a classic, I'm a huge fan of this band. Great music skills and a great recognisable sound.

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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: December 10 2004 at 13:48

HUUUUUUUGE fan of Supertramp, almost all they did between Crime and Famous Last Words is great. Great signature Wurlitzer electric piano sound, great vocals, great playing and great melodies. Supertramp are brilliant be they pop or not.



Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: December 10 2004 at 17:25
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HUUUUUUUGE fan of Supertramp, almost all they did between Crime and Famous Last Words is great. Great signature Wurlitzer electric piano sound, great vocals, great playing and great melodies. Supertramp are brilliant be they pop



Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 18:48
Supertramp is my favorite band, and COTC is one of my favorite albums of all time!! Their mix of pop and prog is totally outstanding and the musicianship is extremely solid on that album! It should be included in every "real" prog collection, IMO!

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 18:50
Yea but my fave is "Even in the Quietest Moments" .. When I first heard Downstream that song gave me shivvers.


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 18:53

Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

Yea but my fave is "Even in the Quietest Moments" .. When I first heard Downstream that song gave me shivvers.

Even In The Quietest Moments is my 2nd fav. album by them. Amazing stuff!!



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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 01:20
It's the outro of the title track of the Crime Of The Century album that gets me every time ... wish it could go on and on and on

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 03:00
Crime is a very good album. There's no bad song on it. Supertramp were a unique band. You couldn't really classify them.


Posted By: Under
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 07:38

^ Right, Supertramp does fit neither in Pop nor in Prog.

Great band, great music. Crime is one of my favorites, but there are many more.

I must say I played it a lot when I was between 16 - 20 (mostly Paris Live) and to tell you the truth I cannot hear it all the time anymore, but still once in a while....

 



Posted By: Greg H.
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:50

Supertramp was a fantastic band. No doubt!

I saw the "Breakfast in America" Tour in 1979 in Phoenix, AZ. Excellent, Excellent Concert!!

Of course; "Crime of the Century", "Crisis? What Crisis", and "Even in the Quietest Moments", perhaps, are their best work. Although; there were 2 earlier albums. "Indelibly Stamped", and another. They were pretty good, as well.

After, "Famous Last Words" (around 1981), Roger Hodgson left the band.



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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 22:56

YEAH! Somebody mentioned Supertramp!!!
hey you guys is Supertramp underrated?
who cares they rocks!
i listened Paris and School and its intro blow my mind
then Crime of The Century and its outro blow my mind too
so i get the whole discography of Supertramp and Crime is the Best album along with Paris


and Roger Hodgson left in 1983

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 02:08

I have just recently started getting into this band and I do agree that Crime of the Century is a great album.

Quick question...has anybody ever heard their first two albums and are they any good?I have seen those albums described as very proggy.



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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 04:11

Supertramp is no prog at all.

Crime of the century and Breakfest in America are comercial rock albums.

The same for Styx and Saga



Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 05:01
To progtologist
I have Supertramp (their 1st) and have heard most of Indelibly
Stamped. They do have proto-prog elements, although they could fit
more easily in the art-rock subgenre. They had a different line-up
back then (only Hodgson and Davies survived from those days) but
there were some hints to what they would do later. Personally I'd
recommend the first, if you like it get Indelibly


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 05:14

Originally posted by paulindigo paulindigo wrote:

To progtologist
I have Supertramp (their 1st) and have heard most of Indelibly
Stamped. They do have proto-prog elements, although they could fit
more easily in the art-rock subgenre. They had a different line-up
back then (only Hodgson and Davies survived from those days) but
there were some hints to what they would do later. Personally I'd
recommend the first, if you like it get Indelibly

Thanks Paul,I'll check them out.



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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 08:11
Jody: Their first album is excellent and is their most proggy album in their entire dicography. Indelibly Stamped is weaker, but still nice. Not as proggy though.. I recommend Crisis? What Crisis? and Even In The Quietest Moments first before you get the two first.

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Posted By: polumbric
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 08:25

Breakfast in America rocks!

 



Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:43
Crime of the Century is an undaubted masterpiece in Supertramp's ouevre, only matched by Breakfast in America - depends on one's taste !

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Posted By: Gomurisu
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:49
Breakfast in America is a good album. It is a bit poppy, but that doesn't matter. Wonderful music. I guess I should buy Crime of the Century too, as it seems to be even better.

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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 10:06

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Bloody well right is in my top 10 of most irritating songs of all time. But the rest of the album is very much a classic, I'm a huge fan of this band. Great music skills and a great recognisable sound.

The same for me. I can't stand BWR , but I love the classic albums of Supertramp (74/79)



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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:13

tuxon wrote:
Bloody well right is in my top 10 of most irritating songs of all time. But the rest of the album is very much a classic, I'm a huge fan of this band. Great music skills and a great recognisable sound.

The same for me. I can't stand BWR , but I love the classic albums of Supertramp (74/79)

Me too - that song irritates me. Love Supertramp though, one of the few groups listed on this site that I can play with my wife in the car... well, there are now the Beatles of course. Guess my wife is turning into a bit of a prog head!



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:22

Their music is as infectious and catchy as a dose of syphillis!

But, I cant help liking them. I've owned a Supertramp compilation for years, and listened to it every now and then. I bought 'Crime of the Century' at the weekend - it was in the bargain bin. Good melodies and a very original sound. They are very poppy, and I think thats why I'm not a BIG fan. I can hear the potential, but am dissapointed that the music doesn't quite get there for my taste.

Crime of the century  = XXX



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 07 2006 at 03:44

A full blown conceptual album, a stunning masterpiece and the first album I bought (almost as it came out, I was 11) and lyrically very strong

Not completely progressive I agree, but for me the weak point on the album, Dreamer is it. It has that w**ker-type melody you will find in future albums - Lady - Give A Little Bit - Breakfast In America title track - It's Raining Again (Almost one of those Nah-nah-nah- naaaaahh, nah-nah thing:  that kid atitude)

School is a real art rock piece

BWR might be a bit weaker , but the lyrics are up there

Hide In Your Shell is another superb piece but not enough space is given for instrumental play

Asylum is full blown prog rock

Dreamer (see above but Thompson's bass line saves the day)

Rudy : the cornerstone of the album and anyone telling me this is not prog , does not know what prog is.

If Everyone Was Listening: not the most upfront tune and a slow sinker, but still very worthy of the album

Crime Of The Century: the closer which pushes the album to superior oeuvre status

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I personally love their debut album (typical proto-prog album) and Brother Where You Bound? is also a prog album

 



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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: March 07 2006 at 04:16
Originally posted by Firepuck Firepuck wrote:

tuxon wrote:
Bloody well right is in my top 10 of most irritating songs of all time. But the rest of the album is very much a classic, I'm a huge fan of this band. Great music skills and a great recognisable sound.

The same for me. I can't stand BWR , but I love the classic albums of Supertramp (74/79)

Me too - that song irritates me. Love Supertramp though, one of the few groups listed on this site that I can play with my wife in the car... well, there are now the Beatles of course. Guess my wife is turning into a bit of a prog head!

 A good reason to like them, really...



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Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: March 07 2006 at 04:28
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I have just recently started getting into this band and I do agree that Crime of the Century is a great album.

Quick question...has anybody ever heard their first two albums and are they any good?I have seen those albums described as very proggy.

I've got their first album 'Supertramp' from 1970. Very good and interesting debut, especially for fans. Sound rather much simple and 'archaic', piano not so distinct as later, first 'samples' of fantastic Hodgson's voice (Davies is definitely not good in singing - till today). My rating: 3,5 stars.

Their second 'Indelibly Stamped' is still out of my reach (since many years).

Really GREAT effort appears with 'Crime ...'.



Posted By: jaystone tdot
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 04:44
I saw Supertramp in 1976, that was the "CRIME" tour, Maple Leaf Gardens, I was 13 then. Really set me on my way, wish I saw PINK FLOYD in 1978 "Animals" Montreal, mom would not let me go.


Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 04:59

Originally posted by jaystone tdot jaystone tdot wrote:

I saw Supertramp in 1976, that was the "CRIME" tour, Maple Leaf Gardens, I was 13 then. Really set me on my way, wish I saw PINK FLOYD in 1978 "Animals" Montreal, mom would not let me go.

I saw them in their "Some things never change" tour and they were still surprisingly very good , but later I went to a gig of Roger Hodgson solo with his guitar and it was GREAT , one of the best concerts I've seen.



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Posted By: tdreamer
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 17:06
The new Supertramp anthology is well worth checking out. I bought Crisis? What Crisis. & In the Quieter Moments . But haven't had a chance to listen yet.


Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 12:55
BLOODY WELL RIGHT IS... GREAT FUN, LADS !Wink

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 12:59
Fantastic album - a 5-star classic if there ever was one. And who cares if it's poppy at times? Pop is not necessarily a four-letter word (even though it has only three...LOL), when it's done in a tasteful and intelligent way. We're not talking Spice Girls here!


Posted By: horza
Date Posted: July 07 2006 at 13:00
Live in Paris is great Supertramp     

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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 14:33
Horza and me at ONCE have something we agree about... MIRACLES HAPPEN !Cool

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 14 2006 at 14:39
Amazing album from in my opinion one of the finest bands ever. Their output quality between Crime and Paris is almost unmatched.
 
To the Progtologist, their first two albums are probably considered proggier, but of much lesser quality. Both are good, around three star releases, but nothing to the scope of Crime.


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 16:07

My very first album bought (or at least in the first three) COTC is simply still one of my favorite

 

For a long time I thought Dreamer was the track I liked least because of the w**ker chorus (nah-nah-nah-nah), but the music on it (Thompson's bass) is still quite good. Nowadays I finf BWR the weaker rack , but the lyrics are still so very important to the overall concept of the album. No tracks is lesser than a 4*/5 on the album



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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: July 15 2006 at 17:16
I was given this one (CotC) & Thin Lizzy's Jailbreak as copies on cassette by a (then) girlfriend in 75 or 76 - and I still think it's one of the best albums ever.....(she also gave me some Wings stuff - and that's sh2te.....).....

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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: August 06 2006 at 13:47
I think that "If everyone was listening" is a bit TOO larmoyante compared to the rest, and "Asylum" has a heavy-weight-feel though I still think of it as a great song. RUDY is my No. 1, followed by Hide in your Shell, School and CAS.

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