What yanks your chain?
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Topic: What yanks your chain?
Posted By: andYouandI45
Subject: What yanks your chain?
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:03
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You guys know what makes me so mad that I could eat a living human baby?
The fact that Eddie Van Halen is credited for tapping.
It was Steve Hackett!
What makes you guys angry that is prog related?
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Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:07
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Here's a few: Rolling Stone - declaring System of a Down 'Leaders of Prog-Metal' - calling Les Claypol's CD messy and tuneless (bah! no taste at all!) Refusal of Entertainment Weekly to publish review on '10,000 Days' regardless of how it reached number 1 Various other media discrepancies.... I'll have more later after some thought ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Deadwing008/?chartstyle=Basquiat"> 
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:12
| The tapping on Eruption was insane for the time, even Jimmy Page said he thought the guy had arrived from Mars. I don´t think Hackett was tapping like that, sorry have to disagree with you. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:13
I agree....Eddie VH brought it to another level. -------------  |
RycheMan wrote:Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:15
So then shouldn't he be credited for taking it too the next level and not for creating it? ------------- www.myspace.com/hail_peter 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:17
I never heard EVH being credited for inventing tapping,he just does it better.
I saw Page tap on The Song Remains the Same and wasn't impressed,I saw EVH do it live and it gave me goosebumps. ------------- |
Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 16:25
I'm not dennying he's great at tapping, he is amazing, never seen him live though. (Speaking of Van Halen, David Lee Roths blue grass performance made me wanna cry it was so bad.) You've never heard EVH credited for inventing tapping? I've heard it left and right, a lot of people in my school think that he created it, and CH1 and MTV give him credit all the time. It annoys me a lot too. ------------- www.myspace.com/hail_peter
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Posted By: pogoowner
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 17:03
It was indeed quite horrendous. And does anyone else find his mannerisms while performing (and talking to a talk show host) to be completely annoying and ridiculous looking? ------------- And it might as well be raining, 'cause the sunlight hurts his eyes, And his ears will never hear the children's cries |
Posted By: Zoso
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 17:04
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Which song does Steve Hackett first tap on?
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 17:12
Fred Astaire was the first person I saw tapping: |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 17:21
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Re "tapping" : I'm sure it was "invented" hundred of years ago on a guitar or other instrument. Really, tapping a finger on a fret is not an elusive trick. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 19:03
The Musical Box off of Nursery Cryme if I'm not mistaken. ------------- 
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 19:05
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And about the EVH tapping thing, I often hear people cite him as the bringer of it into the rock format and I often correct people, who always ask, "Steve who?". I then say, "the guitarist for Genesis" and they reply, "You listen to Genesis?".
Listen to some of Hackett's tapping on songs like Mechanical Bride and you'll hear some incredible work that rivals EVH. -------------
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 19:29
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Wait, I tought the first was Hendrix in the 60's
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Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 21:08
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MORRISSEY of THE SMITHS |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 23:32
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My Archinémesis; The Chainyanker... ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 11:36
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What yanks my chain..
Teaflax´s posts! (Just joking...sort of)
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 14:27
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I personally don't like Eddie Van Halen's Eruption, but I understand why he was given credit for tapping. When kids annoy people like me in guitar stores doing sloppy tapping, they never play The Musical Box by Genesis, they play Eruption. Maybe Hackett deserves credit for tapping, but Van Halen made tapping a household guitar technique. -------------  
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: Royalist
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 16:21
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1."Collins destroyed Genesis" 2."Iron Maiden/Metallica/Deep Purple/Queen/every good band should be added here/is prog" ------------- 
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 16:24
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Punk gets blamed for ending prog, but it was really the music industry. -------------  
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 17:22
Yeah, and the tapping part to the Musical Box is easier than Eruption too. But I'm not too suprised- you don't see too many 14 year olds at Guitar Center playing the Musical Box.
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 18:02
Mégo, a great keyboard player who played for a short lived but amazing prog band, Pollen, is now the keyboard player for Céline Dion. What a waste of talent! 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 18:05
But I'm sure the money is rolling in.
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 18:08
You know you gotta pay the bills.  -------------
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 18:18
How prog can you be until you can't pay the bills?
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 18:34
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What yanks my chain? Well, there is very, very small, tiny man, named Edward, who frequently assaults me by strangling me with a bicycle chain, and I believe I saw him take that from my bike; therefore, that would be my chain he is yanking.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 19:29
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The Rolling Stone magazine...and how they ignore and talk bad about prog...
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 19:31
Hey that applies to MOST music magazines! |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 19:33
I think you hit the nail on the head Tony. Music magazine promote more about dental hygiene than progressive music. They never miss a chance to kick prog when it's down though.  -------------
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 19:37
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I dont understand it. Do they think they will lose readers if they devote some editorial space or review space to Prog? Surely it would greatly enhance their customer base! Or do they believe that including Prog would be like "selling out"?  |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 15:23
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Mindless taping I don't care about; Steve Hackett puts sense into that by adding a layer of composition that makes the taping worhty. The other taper mentioned can be replaced with a computer easily. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 18:24
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Woops j/k. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 23:32
Yes, and how they Portrayed Frank Zappa as a drug user. They had a sketch of him with a big spliff in his mouth. Absolutely uncalled for.  -------------
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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 22:12
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The very first time you log onto a Windows XP compter, you get that stupid balloon that pops up to tell you "There are unused icons on your desktop".
No sh*t, this is the first time I've logged on! Gotta love Microsoft.
Makes me want to punch Bill Gates. ------------- David - Never doubt in the dark that which you believe to be true in the light. http://www.myspace.com/aardvarktxusa - Instrumental rock http://www.soundclick.com/aardvarktxusa |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 17:39
When someone is typing a sentence, and they put a parentheses in a sentence, ( but forget to put the other one at the end, so it leads you up trying to find the end of the parenthetical sentence but there is none so you don't know where it should go. It is very annoying.
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:37
| http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guitar:Tapping - http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guitar:Tapping |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 20:35
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^Let me guess, they give VH credit when it is actually Hackett's discovery. That would be on my list as well.
------------- We got to pump the stuff to make us tough from the heart Its astart What we need is awareness we cant get careless Mental self defensive fitness Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be |
Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 21:17
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Steve Vai tapping is (one of) the best IMO ------------- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spmiw7.jpg"> 
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 09:09
| What yanks my chain? People who start threads with titles like "What yanks your chain!" LOL. |
Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 21:18
I don't think the tapping from Dancing with the Moonlit Knight is easier than Eruption, though, and Selling England by the Pound pre-dated Van HAlen 1 by 5 years. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 15:19
I don´t think I can post that in here 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 20 2006 at 07:23
People using the "What Yanks Your Chain" thread and completely ignoring my old "The Ranting Room" thread  
But whilst I'm here - re the 'tapping' technique argument; I recently saw a film of Buddy Guy from the late 1950s... want to guess what technique he was using? ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |