I hear he was shot on stage Pixel .

Can anyone confirm that?

Proghead wrote: And.........Ricky Martin, Britney Spears.......Mariah Carey

I'd shoot if I was on stage with Mariah !

Reed Lover wrote: I saw Judas Priest on stage once. The whole f**king lot of them should have been shot.

Rob Halford admits that Judas Priest have been close to actually killing themselves over the years with malfunctioning special effects.

very sad story!

a total of 5 people were killed including the murderer and another member of the band!

Pixel Pirate wrote: Reed Lover wrote: I saw Judas Priest on stage once. The whole f**king lot of them should have been shot.

What the hell are you talking about???

More info here:

http://p069.ezboard.com/fwherethewaxburnsfrm21.showMessage?topicID=188.topic - http://p069.ezboard.com/fwherethewaxburnsfrm21.showMessage?t opicID=188.topic

Not a houge Pantera fan, but this is ridiculous....

Pixel Pirate wrote: Every time I read of one these tragic and insane incidents,it's always in America. Why is it that that type of lunatic springs so easily from American soil? Why do we never hear of similar incidents in Lichtenstein? Or Denmark? Or Germany? What is about American society that breeds these gun toting maniacs?

Hey Pixel, how far are you from Sweden?  Do the names Anna Lindh and Olaf Palme mean anything to you.

How about Denmark?  How about Pim Fortuyn?

Oh, and here's one closer to home. http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article924447.ece - http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article924447.ece

Google tells lots.

Tragic about Darrell, though, and I'm not even a Pantera fan.  Of course this will lead to changes in how concerts are presented.  More security will be put in place (which I don't mind), but the costs will be passed on ... and some artists will be more reluctant.

Angeliqué wrote: I'm pinching myself here.... That really true?? Still can't believe it.

No it is true, Gdub really doesn't care!

Some friends of mine are planning a tribute concert.  Benefits to families of the victims.  Detroit area, February timeframe,

If you want to follow the planning in a thread, it's at:

http://p070.ezboard.com/fytsejamdiscussiongeneraldiscussion.showMessage?topicID=19872.topic - http://p070.ezboard.com/fytsejamdiscussiongeneraldiscussion. showMessage?topicID=19872.topic

gdub411 wrote: Hmmmmm.....I don't care!

  If murder and the shooting of club/concert goers do not arouse any compassion in you, then you are a very sad, unfeeling case, indeed. I would not care to number such a person among my friends.

Don't presume to tell those of us who have expressed dismay at this tragedy that we secretly feel as you do -- that is pure arrogance.

Why post on this topic at all, if all you can do is to flippantly dishonour the dead, and insult those who have expressed concern? Why not just keep it to yourself?  Since when was condemning murder and gun violence merely "political correctness?" Nice image you are presenting to the world, sir....

Not a big fan of Pantera or metal in general, but it's still sad.  My condolences to the friends and family to the victims families.

gdub411 wrote: I didn't dishonour anyone. Just stating how I felt.

Or don't feel....  People are murdered when trying to have fun -- you say "I don't care." If one of my friends/loved ones was among the slain, and you said that to me, what do you think might happen?

THINK, man! Where is your heart?

^

I have been accused of trolling and flaming in the past for using that amount of emotion.

The "discussion" I had with Gdub previously about his seemingly confused politics.

THINK, man! Where is your heart?

I like it though!!

Couldnt you just shake the daft lad?

gdub411 wrote: Peter wrote: gdub411 wrote: Hmmmmm.....I don't care!   If murder and the shooting of club/concert goers do not arouse any compassion in you, then you are a very sad, unfeeling case, indeed. I would not care to number such a person among my friends. Don't presume to tell those of us who have expressed dismay at this tragedy that we secretly feel as you do -- that is pure arrogance. Why post on this topic at all, if all you can do is to flippantly dishonour the dead, and insult those who have expressed concern? Why not just keep it to yourself?  Since when was condemning murder and gun violence merely "political correctness?" Nice image you are presenting to the world, sir.... I didn't dishonour anyone. Just stating how I felt.

You did, though. You stated that you were only saying what everyone else felt but was too PC to admit. It's just not true- I really do feel a bit bad because of it. And you should know I'm not a PC or even overly sentimental type of guy

gdub411 wrote: I'll just shut up and be the good forum go'er I guess. Opinions are to be abolished unless they fall into line with Peter's way of  thinking.

Oh oh er Greg, oh dear...

Just remembered Peter's won the Presidente Poll.

Into the woodchipper you go !

gdub411 wrote: Opinions are to be abolished unless they fall into line with Peter's way of  thinking.

That's absurd. Peter's backed off on many subjects that have potential for becoming inflammatory. Your comments would only hurt the feelings of those who do CARE for the man. It would have better to say nothing at all than something which would cause someone unnecessary pain.

Believe me, if you lost someone, we'd be there for you. Don't be callous.

I lost a friend a few months ago. He was shot. The people here were supportive and not one single person said anything like, "I don't care." If they had, I would have been crushed, kinda like I am right now as I write this.

If you can't offer support at a tragic event, then offer nothing, it's better then a slap.

Sorry, I got pissed.

gdub411 wrote: Hmmmmm.....I don't care!

Robots are fast and efficient.

gdub411 wrote: I'll just shut up and be the good forum go'er I guess. Opinions are to be abolished unless they fall into line with Peter's way of  thinking.

I'm not the Forum's moderator, Gdub. Like yours, my opinions are those of one man. Post what you like, but you shouldn't expect highly contentious/insensitive remarks to go unanswered.

What I found particularly irksome was your presuming to know how the rest of us think, feel, and react to news of a tragedy.

Now, let's get past this bit of unpleasantness, OK?

I never listened to Dimebag's stuff but he had a nice little article for a while in Guitar World or one of those magazines and I use to enjoy reading his column.  I found him to be a nice enough guy.  It is a shame that there are these tradgedies at rock shows.  Last year we had the fire in Rhode Island and of course there are other less notable incidents but they seem to happen all too often.  When did violence have to become associated with rock music anyway...I doubt the same thing would happen at a Yes show...I guess you live by the sword and die by it.  From what I hear they were trying to bring back the hell raising and I think hell was raised.  Damn as Janes Addiction said" Nothings Shocking"  and really I am surprised this doesn't happen more often.  It is a tradgedy whether you like his music or not. 

Reed Lover wrote: I saw Judas Priest on stage once. The whole f**king lot of them should have been shot.

Why?

The Pope ended his sermon with the Latin phrase "Tuti Homini" … Blessed be Mankind.

A woman's rights group approached the Pope the next day to mention that he blessed all Mankind but not Womankind.

The next day, after His sermon, the Pope concluded by saying, "Tuti Homini, et Tuti Femini" … Blessed be Mankind and Womankind.

The next day a gay-rights group approached the Pope. They said they noticed that he blessed Mankind and Womankind, and asked if he could also bless gay people. The Pope said, "Of course."

The next day the Pope concluded his sermon with, "Tuti Homini, et Tuti Femini, et Tuti Fruiti."

frenchie wrote: Joren wrote: Reed Lover wrote: I saw Judas Priest on stage once. The whole f**king lot of them should have been shot. Why? ok so you hate judas priest like many people. but its still f**king harsh to say something like that on a tribute page to a legendary guitarist who was tragically shot to death. have some respect... and sense!

In case of what, exactly?

This thread was not paying tribute to a legendary guitarist merely acknowledging the news item. I was trying to show that black humour is a part of what we are and that people over-react when it suits them to act sanctimoniously.Hence the silly reaction to the even sillier post by Gdub.

Do not lecture me about respect, or sense for that matter.I doubt if there is anyone here who has not laughed at a joke or text which has been at the expense of some poor person who has been mentioned in the news.This is called black humour, I did not invent it.

eg:

Q: Did you hear about Michael Jackson's latest song?
A: "Don't let your son go down on me."

Now, this "joke" is typical of the thousands that do the rounds.It does not take into account either Michael Jackson's feelings if he is innocent nor the feelings of certain individuals and their families if he is not.

DO I HAVE TO GO ON WITH THIS?????????????????????????????

"f**king" grow up!

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Reed Lover wrote: frenchie wrote: Joren wrote: Reed Lover wrote: I saw Judas Priest on stage once. The whole f**king lot of them should have been shot. Why? ok so you hate judas priest like many people. but its still f**king harsh to say something like that on a tribute page to a legendary guitarist who was tragically shot to death. have some respect... and sense! In case of what, exactly? This thread was not paying tribute to a legendary guitarist merely acknowledging the news item. I was trying to show that black humour is a part of what we are and that people over-react when it suits them to act sanctimoniously.Hence the silly reaction to the even sillier post by Gdub. Do not lecture me about respect, or sense for that matter.I doubt if there is anyone here who has not laughed at a joke or text which has been at the expense of some poor person who has been mentioned in the news.This is called black humour, I did not invent it. eg: Q: Did you hear about Michael Jackson's latest song? A: "Don't let your son go down on me." Now, this "joke" is typical of the thousands that do the rounds.It does not take into account either Michael Jackson's feelings if he is innocent nor the feelings of certain individuals and their families if he is not. DO I HAVE TO GO ON WITH THIS????????????????????????????? "f**king" grow up!

I'm with you 100% on this,Reed. See,we're not very different at all,really....

DaRube wrote: Pixel Pirate wrote: Every time I read of one these tragic and insane incidents,it's always in America. Why is it that that type of lunatic springs so easily from American soil? Why do we never hear of similar incidents in Lichtenstein? Or Denmark? Or Germany? What is about American society that breeds these gun toting maniacs? Hey Pixel, how far are you from Sweden?  Do the names Anna Lindh and Olaf Palme mean anything to you. How about Denmark?  How about Pim Fortuyn? Oh, and here's one closer to home. http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article924447.ece - http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article924447.ece Google tells lots. Tragic about Darrell, though, and I'm not even a Pantera fan.  Of course this will lead to changes in how concerts are presented.  More security will be put in place (which I don't mind), but the costs will be passed on ... and some artists will be more reluctant.

Absolutely.. this is not a tragedy just for this country, but a very worldwide one.  The reason you hear more about ours is because our media is better and faster, and get it out when its more relevant.

I understand he was upset because Darrell left Pantera and formed his own band.  Roger Waters better be looking over his shoulder now...

^

And to all the people you may or may not have killed, if the opportunity arose, under the pretence of protecting your country?

As far as I can see, at this moment in time the biggest threats to Canada are

1. assholes flying around in planes laden with weapons of mass destruction

2.Polar bears

3.Grizzly bears

4.Getting their heads jammed firmly up their pompous arses.

Have a nice day.

I realize I'm new but is it pertinent to discuss Heavy Metal happenings on a Prog Rock forum? I mean, I feel bad the guy died and the way he died and everything, but let's discuss Yes, King Crimson, Rush, and Pink Floyd, not some thrasher.

redbar89 wrote: I realize I'm new but is it pertinent to discuss Heavy Metal happenings on a Prog Rock forum? I mean, I feel bad the guy died and the way he died and everything, but let's discuss Yes, King Crimson, Rush, and Pink Floyd, not some thrasher.

There are piles and piles of threads on all of the above mentioned bands.  Is it really wrong to pay our respects to a great musician who lost his life in a tragic event just because he didn't play prog?

amygdala wrote: i am backing peter. people should think about what they say as we shud remember dimebag for the legned he was and sometimes people say things that might offend others without even thinking of how people might react. if you dont wanna start these long and unneccesary arguements then all you have to do is think about what you say. its ok if you think hmmmm... i dont care but you dont HAVE to put it as a messsage, you keep it to yourself. then we avoid fights and whatnot. just a thought.

 Whose fighting love?

I like the fights they are amusing    When you point the finger at others there will always be ten more pointing at you...

Vibrationbaby wrote: To all you sub-moronic twits out there who would poke fun out of such a tragic occurance need to have your heads examined. I have a dark sense of humour but making fun of something so senseless and tragic even falls below my standards of humour. Nobody deserves to die in such a way. My heaart goes out to those affected directly.

I saw no-one making fun of it. Some people say they didn't care is far from making fun of it. While it was unfortunate what happened I feel more sorry for the unlegendary children whose lives are taken from them for one reason or another over some guy who uses his name as some sort of endorsement for drugs. Actually it is the 3 other unfortunate people(Christ...no-one bothers to write their names!!!!) that got killed along with Mr Dimebag I truly feel bad about.

Arioch wrote: Vibrationbaby wrote: To all you sub-moronic twits out there who would poke fun out of such a tragic occurance need to have your heads examined. I have a dark sense of humour but making fun of something so senseless and tragic even falls below my standards of humour. Nobody deserves to die in such a way. My heaart goes out to those affected directly. I saw no-one making fun of it. Some people say they didn't care is far from making fun of it. While it was unfortunate what happened I feel more sorry for the unlegendary children whose lives are taken from them for one reason or another over some guy who uses his name as some sort of endorsement for drugs. Actually it is the 3 other unfortunate people(Christ...no-one bothers to write their names!!!!) that got killed along with Mr Dimebag I truly feel bad about.

So, in your opinion, because his nickname has to do with marijuana he's less worthy of mourning, and because the others weren't famous they are more worthy?

Not starting anything, mind you, just trying to understand you.

I never was a big Pantera fan. Still I feel bad about this. Things like this should not happen. It's plain wrong.

R.I.P. Dimebag and the other victims.

James Lee wrote: Arioch wrote: Vibrationbaby wrote: To all you sub-moronic twits out there who would poke fun out of such a tragic occurance need to have your heads examined. I have a dark sense of humour but making fun of something so senseless and tragic even falls below my standards of humour. Nobody deserves to die in such a way. My heaart goes out to those affected directly. I saw no-one making fun of it. Some people say they didn't care is far from making fun of it. While it was unfortunate what happened I feel more sorry for the unlegendary children whose lives are taken from them for one reason or another over some guy who uses his name as some sort of endorsement for drugs. Actually it is the 3 other unfortunate people(Christ...no-one bothers to write their names!!!!) that got killed along with Mr Dimebag I truly feel bad about. So, in your opinion, because his nickname has to do with marijuana he's less worthy of mourning, and because the others weren't famous they are more worthy? Not starting anything, mind you, just trying to understand you.

I am saying that it is unfortunate that his name is the only one mentioned when others lost their lives with his. Also I don't agree with such a name as Dimebag, but no- one should have their lives snuffed away, though and I wasn't disrespecting him or his death.