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Topic: 80's Music
Posted By: thellama73
Subject: 80's Music
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:38
I have noticed the 80's are by and large despised by many members of this forum. As a child of the 80's and having been weaned on MTV, I love a lot of the stuff tha came out of that period, particularly New Wave. Does anyone else like the 80's, or will I have to rock out to Tainted Love all by myself?


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:50
I think the 80s are known as the decade that taste forgot (or was that the 70s?)
I will admit that I bought 2 Spandau Ballet albums in the 80s, so obviously something happened to my taste. There were some good records made (Cocteau Twins, U2, XTC and Simple Minds all spring to mind) then again there was A Flock of Seagulls.


Posted By: Güdron
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:25

I don’t know what they were drinking in the 70’s, but they definitely lost the recipe in around 1979. Ermm



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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:38
Having spent the 70s as a musical participant and the 80s as an observer my objectivity is definitely skewed but I still have to consider the 80s as a decade of confusion for music.  While the 70s saw music running freely down every conceivable path and trail seemingly without restriction, MTV seemed to channel all creativity back into a pigeonhole of marketing and visual appeal.  Perhaps that was inevitable because the end of the 70s saw the rise of punk and new wave that flew in the face of what music had evolved into.  For progressive rock, however, the 80s seemed to strangle the genre by forcing it to adapt to the 3 minute video that overwhelmed the industry.  I'm not sure it ever fully recovered but I'm pleased that the prog spirit carries on due to websites like this one.

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Posted By: wolf0621
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:40
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I have noticed the 80's are by and large despised by many members of this forum. As a child of the 80's and having been weaned on MTV, I love a lot of the stuff tha came out of that period, particularly New Wave. Does anyone else like the 80's, or will I have to rock out to Tainted Love all by myself?
 
If you can "rock out" to Tainted Love then go for it!Embarrassed Someone else denigrated A Flock Of Seagulls...Them's fightin' words! Best haircuts in showbiz!Big smile BTW: Didn't Bill Nelson have some involvement with the band initially?


Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:40
Oh yes, I don't deny that the 80's was devastating to prog, but I still think there was plenty of worthwile Non-Prog music that came out of it.

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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:42
I'm a big fan of 80s music, post-punk in particular.

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Posted By: tdreamer
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:43
Although there was a helluva lot of dire music around in the 80's. There were a good few gems IMO. I loved A Flock of Seagulls. I would even go so far to describe them as progressive pop if there is such a thing. Back then I was mainly in to heavier music but most of it hailed back to the 70's. I think bands like Rush & Yes produced great albums in that decade but they seemed to go with the flow of music of that time..   My wife has tons of 80's pop compilations which drive me nuts.


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 15:59
There was still some damn good heavy rock/metal/AOR in the 80s- although there were only two styles that would prove to be THAT influential in the long run; NWOBHM and thrash- I like most of the 80s rock acts. Hate all the synth pop/New Romantics that polluted the airwaves but there was still a fair bit of good music about.


Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 16:04
Don't get me wrong.  Compared to the rap-infested swill that's being passed off as music these days the tunes of the 80s sound like the golden age of melody!

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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 17:34
Comsat Angels - Fiction - 1982 Thumbs Up
The Sound - From the Lion's Mouth - 1981 Thumbs Up
Echo and the Bunnymen - Heaven up Here 1981 Thumbs Up
 


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 08:47
There was some great and frankly revolutionaty Metal in the 1980s - everyone seems to forget that.

What's wrong with Spandau Ballet?



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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 09:13
I love the 80's!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Spent the ages 14 - 24 in that decade and had a blast.
 
Some of the best metal ever recorded came out of the 80's.


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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 09:45
The best music in the 80s was the metal, although 95% of that is crap too. LOL

- MERCYFUL FATE : Great band, King Diamond is just brilliant. "Melissa" and "Don't Break the Oath" are early occult masterpieces, groundbreaking both musically and lyrically.

- VENOM : Also groundbreaking. Black Metal.

- BATHORY : Quorthon was a true pioneer, I can't emphasize his importance and influence as a musician enough. "Under the Sign of the Black Mark" and "Blood Fire Death" are masterpieces.

- MANOWAR : These guys don't need introducing. The Kings of Metal!

- JUDAS PRIEST : Breaking the Law, anyone? Wink Although they probably were better in the 70s.

- CANDLEMASS : Great Doom metal. "Epicus Doomicus Metallicus" is a fantastic album.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 10:13
I was very into the NWOBHM and Thrash in the 80's.They left a huge impression on me and my musical tastes that lasts to this day.

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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 10:39
Good lord, there was masses of great music in the 80's.

Just a quick look through my Album Player sorted by year (and not all my music is properly tagged with year, so there's a lot missing, to be sure - but it gives an indication of the fact that it was hardly a musically infertile decade):

1980:
Adam and the Ants: Kings of the Wild Frontier
Bruford: Gradually Going Tornado
The Cure: Seventeen Seconds
Japan: Quiet Life
Joy Division: Closer
Yes: Drama
Zamla Mammaz Manna: Familjesprickor

1981:
Echo & The Bunnymen: Heaven Up Here
Japan: Tin Drum
Killing Joke: What's This For?
King Crimson: Discipline
Simple Minds: Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call

1982:
ABC: The Look of Love
The Birthday Party: Junk Yard
The Buggles: Adventures in Modern Recording
Kate Bush: The Dreaming
The Cure: Pornography
Peter Gabriel: 4
Simple Minds: New Gold Dream
Theatre of Hate: Westworld
Von Zamla: Zamlaranamma

1983:
Jon Anderson: Animation
Aztec Camera: High Land, Hard Rain
Echo & The Bunnymen: Porcupine
Eddie Jobson: Zinc
Metallica: Kill 'Em All
Pink Floyd: The Final Cut
XTC: Mummer

1984:
Laurie Anderson: Mister Heartbreak
The Cardiacs: The Seaside
Lloyd Cole & The Cmmotions: Rattlesnakes
The Cure: The Top
Thomas Dolby: This Flat Earth
Echo & The Bunnymen: Ocean Rain
The Icicle Works: The Icicle Works
IQ: Tales from the Lush Attic
Metallica: Ride the Lightning
Prefab Sprout: Swoon
The Smiths: The Smiths
David Sylvian: Brilliant Trees
XTC: The Big Express

1985:
Alcatrazz: Disturbing the Peace
Kate Bush: The Hounds of Love
The Dukes of Stratosphear: 25 O'Clock
Robert Plant: Shaken N' Stirred
Prefab Sprout: Steve McQueen
Prince: Around the World in a Day
Stan Ridgway: The Big Heat
Rush: Power Windows
Scritti Politti: Cupid & Psyche '85
Sting: The Dream of the Blue Turtles

1986:
The Colourfield: Virgins and Philistines
Miles Davis: Tutu
Peter Gabriel: So
Peter Hammill: Skin
It Bites: The Big Lad in the Windmill
It's Immaterial: Life's Hard and Then You Die
Metallica: Master of Puppets
Momus: Circus Maximus
The Smiths: The Queen is Dead
David Sylvian: Gone to Earth
Talk Talk: The Colour of Spring
The The: Infected
XTC: Skylarking

1987:
Aztec Camera: Love
Lloyd Cole & The Commotions: Mainstream
The Dolphin Brothers: Cath the Fall
Echo & The Bunnymen: Echo & The Bunnymen
Momus: The Poison Boyfriend
Prince: Sign o' the Times
David Sylvian: Secrets of the Beehive
Yello: One Second

1988:
The Cardiacs: A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window
Giraffe: The View from Here
It Bites: Once Around the World
Metallica: ...and Justice for All
Momus: Tender Pervert
Morrissey: Viva Hate
Prefab Sprout: From Langley Park to Memphis
Sylvian/Czukay: Plight & Premonition
Talk Talk: Spirit of Eden

1989:
Barry Adamson: Moss Side Story
Kate Bush: The Sensual World
The Lilac Time: Paradise Circus
Prefab Sprout: Jordan: The comeback
Stan Ridgway: Mosquitos
Sylvian/Czukay: Flux & Mutability
XTC: Oranges and Lemons

There's a lot missing, but these are the ones I consider five-star releases.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 12:18
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

There was some great and frankly revolutionaty Metal in the 1980s - everyone seems to forget that.

What's wrong with Spandau Ballet?



Absolutely nothing at all - in another thread I admitted to having a fondness for some of their songs back then...EmbarrassedLOL

BTW, you're perfectly right about the great Metal bands of the '80s. Let's not forget that Iron Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth and Queensryche produced their best records in that decade, not to mention the masterpieces by Black Sabbath, Dio and Judas Priest.

Some so-called "new wave" bands were quite good too - just to name a few that I particularly like, The Police, The Pretenders and Talking Heads. Dire Straits were also excellent, at least their first two albums.


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 13:28
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Good lord, there was masses of great music in the 80's.(...) (list edited)

There's a lot missing, but these are the ones I consider five-star releases.

    
There's a lot of guilty pleasures on that list...

BTW, ABC's album was called "The Lexicon of Love"

A few more 5 starrers (off the top of my head) include:

Killing Joke: Killing Joke
Soft Cell: Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret
The Power Station: The Power Station
Slayer: Reign In Blood
King Crimson: Discipline
Marillion: Script For a Jester's Tear
Marillion: Fugazi
AC/DC: Back In Black
Black Sabbath: Heaven and Hell
Iron Maiden: Number of the Beast
Motorhead: Ace Of Spades
Motorhead: Iron Fist
Motorhead: Orgasmatron
Scorpions: Blackout
Hawkwind: Sonic Attack
Camel: Stationary Traveller
Paul Simon: Graceland
David Lee Roth: Skyscraper
Frank Zappa: Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch
Ozric Tentacles: Erpsongs


...and so many more...


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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 13:40
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


BTW, ABC's album was called "The Lexicon of Love"
My bad - thanks. I can't believe that of Trevor Horn productions, I completely missed out on mentioning The Art of Noise...

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


The Power Station: The Power Station
I posit that Arcadia's So Red the Rose far outshone this rather bland Rocker.

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


King Crimson: Discipline
Didn't I list that?

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


David Lee Roth: Skyscraper
I prefer Eat 'Em and Smile. Both dragged down by a few weak tracks, though, IMNHO.


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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 15:44
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:


Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

BTW, ABC's album was called "The Lexicon of Love"
My
bad - thanks. I can't believe that of Trevor Horn productions, I
completely missed out on mentioning The Art of Noise...


I can - I never heard anything I actually liked by them, and didn't really hear anything of great note in the compositions either - if you'll pardon the pun.

Trevor Horn was also involved with the Buggles and Frankie Goes to Hollywood, let's not forget...

I can't believe no-one's mentioned the Police and either Ghosts in the Machine or Synchronicity.

Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:


Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


The Power Station: The Power Station

I posit that Arcadia's So Red the Rose far outshone this rather bland Rocker.


Posit what you like - I don't know the Arcadia album, although I've read glowing reviews of it, and the sound bites I've heard sound good.

While it's true that Power Station has got many moments of blandness, it also has exquisite power and energy thanks to the Duran Duran boys - who really weren't as bad as many seem to think.

I couldn't quite bring myself to award a 5 star rating to a Duran Duran album though.

Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:


Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


King Crimson: Discipline
Didn't I list that?


Yes - but it's so good it deserves a second mention

OK, I 'fess up - I missed it.

Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:


Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


David Lee Roth: Skyscraper
I prefer Eat 'Em and Smile. Both dragged down by a few weak tracks, though, IMNHO.


EEAS is a good album in many places too, but Skyscraper is more "devil-may-care", and one of the best party albums ever, which is why it gets my vote.

Sometimes an album is good even though the music isn't exactly adventurous. It just has to press the right buttons.

    

    

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 15:57
I do happen to like The Buggles - Video Killed The Radio Star as well as Talking Heads - Psycho Killer.  I've never really dipped into the '80s yet.  I've got to try and avoid all the mainstream rubbish and try and find some decent stuff.

I am sure Peter Hammill's '80s output is faultless.


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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 16:15
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


Trevor Horn was also involved with the Buggles and Frankie Goes to Hollywood, let's not forget...

The Buggles were fantastic, except for Video... and Clean Clean. Have you heard their albums at all? Their second one, Adventures in Modern Recording, is pretty much flawless in my ears.

And Frankie made some truly great singles, just not a great album. Two Tribes was one of the things that grudgingly made my little Prog snob self realise that maybe there was some good Pop after all. And on their debut album, the side-long opening track - featuring guitar from one Mr Steve Howe - is excellent Prog Pop.


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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 23:36

The early 80's was a bit of an explosion of music. There was all kinds of music and many smaller labels florished. Many artists from the 70's really came into their own in the 80's. There was little as far as actual classic prog but music was quite exciting. There was a lot of experimental music like The Art Of Noise, Philip Glass, This Mortal Coil, Cocteau Twins, Kronos Quartet, Danielle Dax and Laurie Anderson. There were many bands that put out quite exciting music. U2 put out some great music. Many might not remember or have been around but their sound was groundbreaking at the time. There was a kind of simplicity, yet it had passion.

It seems to me many of those who criticize 80's music as being boring were either listening to mainstream radio or oldies (50's, 60's and 70's).Either that, or they are too young to realize that many of these bands were unique and their influences can be heard in today's music, so it sounds mainstream by today's standards.  
 
Late 80's mainstream music was terrible and also tainted people's opinions about this decade. This was the beginning of the age of the music producer, like Stock, Aiken and Waterman. Many of their songs differ only in the singer. Because of advances in music production technology, things became formulaic and the producer had the power. Radio stations became more and more dependent on music programmers, rather than letting the d.j. have a say in what is being played.
 
There was just as much crap music in the 70's as in the 80's. Most of the music of the 80's was immortalized on video, so it's easier to forget the 70's mainstream pop music, the goofy fashions and silly hairstyles (although I admit hair got much more extreme in the 80's). After all, when you say 70's music, do you think Shaun Cassidy, The Carpenters, Abba and Barry Manilow? or do you think of Genesis, King Crimson and Jethro Tull or (insert band here) ?
 
Needless to say, there is a lot of great 80's music, only the closed minded would say otherwise. 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 04:50
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:


Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Trevor Horn was also involved with the Buggles and Frankie Goes to Hollywood, let's not forget...


The Buggles were fantastic, except for Video... and Clean Clean. Have
you heard their albums at all? Their second one, Adventures in Modern
Recording, is pretty much flawless in my ears.

And Frankie made some truly great singles, just not a great album. Two
Tribes was one of the things that grudgingly made my little Prog snob
self realise that maybe there was some good Pop after all. And on their
debut album, the side-long opening track - featuring guitar from one Mr
Steve Howe - is excellent Prog Pop.

    
I've got the first Buggles album, and all of it is unlistenable slush - apart from "Video...", which is a great and fresh pop song - if a trifle overplayed.

Once bitten twice shy, I didn't get the 2nd, as I assumed it would be worse.

I love the Frankie singles - but it's Trevor Horn's production that makes them great. FGTH were less than mediochre songwriters, as much of the "Pleasuredome" album shows clearly.

Horn's production and arrangements were utterly masterful though, on this occasion.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 08:17
I am one of the 80's haters, and I blame most of the bad music on the MTV phenomenon. I hit the 80's when I was 17 and I was no social recluse, but I refused the pop music happening. I actually had enjoyed some punk in the late 70's. but when post punk, new wave and other musical currents happened, I was really disgusted
 
The best "mainstream or radio friendly" 80's bands were actually 70's bands (Police, U2 etc..) and most of my disliking of that decade comes from new wave (mainly) , but the Funk Scene as well AND the Hair (Glam) Metal Dead from those years >> BTW NWOBHMB did not do much for me either (outside laiden, I enjoyed NONE)
 
Naturally, the (relative) poorness (as opposed to other prog genre) of Neo-prog has not helped matters either.
 
But as classic prog had died, Jazz-rock was definitely running out of steam (and was often heading towaeds later ECM jazz and closer to elevator music), New Age etc..., not much was there for me to like
 
So I went on to discover the 60's in jazz and rock, but it did not stop me fgrom listening to weird bands like Bahaus or Killing Joke I would not say I liked these bands, but they did offer something other than crappy commercial stuff. Not enough for me to have a good opinion of that decade, though!
 
 
However had I known of Univers Zero and Present (their core works happened in the 80's) back then, I would've appreciated that decade better. But there was no acces to that music either.


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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 08:43
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

I've got the first Buggles album, and all of it is unlistenable slush - apart from "Video...", which is a great and fresh pop song - if a trifle overplayed.

Once bitten twice shy, I didn't get the 2nd, as I assumed it would be worse.

Well, if you hate pretty much all of The Plastic Age, I guess 'twouldn't be yer cup o' tea. But I find The Plastic Age, Astroboy (and the Proles on Parade), Johnny on the Monorail and especially I Love You (Miss Robot) to be better Pop songs than Video...

Either way, I'm pretty certain you too would find Adventures... a better album, question is if it's better enough to you to make it worth the effort and outlay.

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


I love the Frankie singles - but it's Trevor Horn's production that makes them great. FGTH were less than mediochre songwriters, as much of the "Pleasuredome" album shows clearly. .
Oh, indubitably. Sides one and two of the vinyl were the only thing that really held up, and even then just barely.


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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 08:44
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I am one of the 80's haters, and I blame most of the bad music on the MTV phenomenon.
Then again, almost none of the really good music of the decade was played on MTV, so...


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 09:47
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I am one of the 80's haters, and I blame most of the bad music on the MTV phenomenon.
 
Then again, almost none of the really good music of the decade was played on MTV, so...
LOL
 
Fully agreed
 
but since radio followed suit to MTV, the better 80's stuff never got exposure until internet exploded and the re-issues on Cd happened >> the 80's probably have lotsa "hidden treasures" still buried somewhere by completely unknown but worthy artistes
 
However since I hate the way they played drums in that decade, I am always a little wary of records from that decade >> old tricks from old dogsWink
 
Hence my discovery of some good 80's prog (but in RIO), but in the last ten years.


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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 10:11
Radio has always been mostly crap, though. I never really understood people who used that as a way of discovering and following music. For me it was always having a few friends who were music nuts and lots of mix-tape trading.

I can't recall ever having found a new artist via radio, and precious few via some music shows on TV (in fact, European MTV used to have slightly more adventurous bent during the first few years and would occasionally show something that wasn't blanded down).


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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 13:50
Theres nothing worst than an electronic ´80 drum...oh...its just so anoying... I mean... Duran Duran...how can you tolarate that?...and the worst thing is that now in Argentina there is a certain retro ´80 thing going on...well, everywhere...I mean this new bands like the Killers sound so crapy...so ´80...

But there were some good stuff...Iron Maiden and Metallica specially


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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 22:21
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
The best "mainstream or radio friendly" 80's bands were actually 70's bands (Police, U2 etc..) and most of my disliking of that decade comes from new wave (mainly) , but the Funk Scene as well AND the Hair (Glam) Metal Dead from those years >> BTW NWOBHMB did not do much for me either (outside laiden, I enjoyed NONE)
 
 
 
Just wondering, you say they were "actually 70's bands". Their music that was released in the 80's, doesn't that qualify as 80's music?
 
Also, exactly how is U2 a 70's band. Seriously, I'd like to know.


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 23:33

The Police rule! Approve



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 02:56
Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
The best "mainstream or radio friendly" 80's bands were actually a 70's bands (Police, U2 etc..) and most of my disliking of that decade comes from new wave (mainly) , but the Funk Scene as well AND the Hair (Glam) Metal Dead from those years >> BTW NWOBHMB did not do much for me either (outside laiden, I enjoyed NONE)
 
 
 
Just wondering, you say they were "actually a 70's bands". Their music that was released in the 80's, doesn't that qualify as 80's music?
 
Also, exactly how is U2 a 70's band. Seriously, I'd like to know.
 
the group's first releases were in the 70's (not that sure for U2, though, but ) is what I meant
 
Dire Straits >> 70's band
Police >> 70's band
The Jam >> 70's band
etc...
 


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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 05:43
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Theres nothing worst than an electronic ´80 drum...oh...its just so anoying... I mean... Duran Duran...how can you tolarate that?...and the worst thing is that now in Argentina there is a certain retro ´80 thing going on...well, everywhere...I mean this new bands like the Killers sound so crapy...so ´80...But there were some good stuff...Iron Maiden and Metallica specially


I agree that the 80's drum sound is spectacularly naff - but Duran Duran and a very few others built a great sound around that naffness, IMO.

If you listen to the music instead of being distracted by the drum sounds, Duran Duran were talented musicians - as their side projects also verify.

I defy you to listen to "Wild Boys", "Planet Earth" or "Girls on Film" and not admit that there's something really imaginative about the music and composition - whether you like it or not.

If you still don't like it, watch the full-length video for "Girls on Film". Then you'll like it   


Such a pity that Metallica turned crap in the 1990s - as you say, they were outstanding in the 1980s. Anyone who was not into metal at the time missed out on the really good stuff, IMO.
   

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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 05:50
FWIW, I think the best Duran Duran album is Notorious. Even better is the album made by the 3/4 of Duran Duran at the time; Arcadia's So Red the Rose.

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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 05:54
I remember Tears for Fears. I saw a solo album by the guy Orzabel (or something like that ) on sale. Has anyone heard it? I heard it was quite experimental.


Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 20:11
My wife hates the 80's as a decade for music, but that logic is so wrong, I don't know where to start the argument. I mean, the bands that either started or came really to the fore in that decade include Prince, U2, REM, Costello and many others of integrity and talent. It is too easy to dismiss a whole decade because of a few Kajagoogoos in the mix. The 70's were thought of in that way for awhile. I think, the more distance you get from the decade, the more the actual good music stays with you and reminds you of what was good at that time. The bad stuff just becomes fun because of it's innate crappiness.

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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 20:12
And, I DO consider bands like U2 80's bands, even though their start may have been in the late 70's..I think it depends on which decade they are really identified with, and that is usually the decade in which they were the most popular or really seemed new...Police also fall in that area for me.

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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 20:16
Should have looked over the thread before I answered myself twice! Teaflex, great list and should be enough to show anyone what great music, amidst the crap, that filled the 80's. And, great post as well, Daren.

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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 01:09
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
The best "mainstream or radio friendly" 80's bands were actually a 70's bands (Police, U2 etc..) and most of my disliking of that decade comes from new wave (mainly) , but the Funk Scene as well AND the Hair (Glam) Metal Dead from those years >> BTW NWOBHMB did not do much for me either (outside laiden, I enjoyed NONE)
 
 
 
Just wondering, you say they were "actually a 70's bands". Their music that was released in the 80's, doesn't that qualify as 80's music?
 
Also, exactly how is U2 a 70's band. Seriously, I'd like to know.
 
the group's first releases were in the 70's (not that sure for U2, though, but ) is what I meant
 
Dire Straits >> 70's band
Police >> 70's band
The Jam >> 70's band
etc...
 
 
yes but Zenyatta Mondatta, Ghost In The Machine, Synchronicity >> 80's music. I'd even make the arguement that Regatta de Blanc would qualify, since it was released late in '79 and didn't catch on in many areas outside of the UK until the next year.
 
This is what I was meant. The music itself is 80's music, as it was realeased in the 80's.


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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 01:11
Originally posted by kenmeyerjr kenmeyerjr wrote:

And, I DO consider bands like U2 80's bands, even though their start may have been in the late 70's..I think it depends on which decade they are really identified with, and that is usually the decade in which they were the most popular or really seemed new...Police also fall in that area for me.
 
U2's first album was released in 1980.


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 03:51
Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
The best "mainstream or radio friendly" 80's bands were actually a 70's bands (Police, U2 etc..) and most of my disliking of that decade comes from new wave (mainly) , but the Funk Scene as well AND the Hair (Glam) Metal Dead from those years >> BTW NWOBHMB did not do much for me either (outside laiden, I enjoyed NONE)
 
 
 
Just wondering, you say they were "actually a 70's bands". Their music that was released in the 80's, doesn't that qualify as 80's music?
 
Also, exactly how is U2 a 70's band. Seriously, I'd like to know.
 
the group's first releases were in the 70's (not that sure for U2, though, but ) is what I meant
 
Dire Straits >> 70's band
Police >> 70's band
The Jam >> 70's band
etc...
 
 
yes but Zenyatta Mondatta, Ghost In The Machine, Synchronicity >> 80's music. I'd even make the arguement that Regatta de Blanc would qualify, since it was released late in '79 and didn't catch on in many areas outside of the UK until the next year.
 
This is what I was meant. The music itself is 80's music, as it was realeased in the 80's.
 see your point, but the type of group and the inside the group mentality from the three examples showed here above  is defintely more 70's.
 
According to dates, then Genesis is also an 80's bandConfused.
 
Late 70's groups (punk wave and pub rock derived >> Dire Straits) are definitely more 70's than 80's even if they have a good part of their disographies releazsed in the 80's
 
there is a tremendous difference in aesthetics of music between Police, Clash and Jam than there is between Duran , Gruppo Sportivo etc... >> in that regard Devo is more of the 80's band while Talking Heads is more of a 70's band even if again both groups existed in both decades
 
Anyway, just a few thoughts and nothing to startr an argumentLOL
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 22:40
^^ No, I'm not suggesting Genesis is an 80's band but the music they have released in the 80's is 80's music.
 
By the way, wouldn't your reasoning make Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, Yes and King Crimson all 60's bands?


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 05:15
Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

^^ No, I'm not suggesting Genesis is an 80's band but the music they have released in the 80's is 80's music.
 
By the way, wouldn't your reasoning make Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, Yes and King Crimson all 60's bands?
 
Apart from Yes, I would say that the ones I highlighted in bold characters here above are 60's bands IMHO certainly ( also 70's groups because the early 70's were a direct consequence of the sixties), mostly because they released albums before 68 or in 68.
 
Genesis, Yes and KC released albums as a prog group first, where Tull and Moodies started out as a 60's blues group that evolved into a prog group >> ditto for Floyd and psychadelia >> comes down to the group roots and inside-mentality. I would even say that Yes lyrics are about the hippy-drippyest gibberish of all prog groups >> making this group almost as much a sixties group as a 70's one
 
One thing we must look to is that from the happy golden 60's, the 70's was not a happy decade in humankind (I am not talking of our careless teenage point of view where music , drugs and girls were our only pre-occupations >> I was 14 in 77 in Toronto, BTW) and it was a grim decade (see below)Smile
 
 
What it comes down is that musically and philosophically , the 60's ended not with altamont, but in 74 , when the spirit of summer Of Love finally died its slow death.
 
And the grim unhappy 70's started from 73 and the first oil crisis , 72 and the first terrorist attacks (Munich Olympics etc..)
 
 
Back to late 70's , the art pop scene coming from US Glam scene (call it NY scene where Talking Heads and Television evolved from the NY Dolls , Reed, Ramones etc...) this is definitely belonging to the 70's (according to the criterias I gave you above) In UK, the pub rock scene (Dr Feelgood , Eddie Hot Rod was slowly transformed from Dire Straits, Sniff And The Tears and ZZebra) is also 70's music.
 
and Punk is definitely the 70's scene (Police and Jam, but also Clash) with 80's ramifications >>> post punk and the b*****d son of both punk and Glam >>> new waveDead and its subgenres as NuRo (new Romantics etc...)
 
 
See where I am getting at?Wink
 
 


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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 20:28
Nah, I have to disagree with a few of you...Genesis, Yes, and virtually all prog bands will be '70's bands' to me, because that is when those groups produced either their best work or their most recognized.
 
And I consider Dire Straits and 80's band as well, since their most known releases, I think, were in the 80's, their largest output as well, as far as I know (just going on memory here). I think it is possibly a subjective thing too. Some may think Pink Floyd would be an 80's band or even a 60's band, as one member said, but following my statement above, they will always be a 70's band to me.


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Posted By: coffeeintheface
Date Posted: July 10 2006 at 03:36
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I have noticed the 80's are by and large despised by many members of this forum. As a child of the 80's and having been weaned on MTV, I love a lot of the stuff tha came out of that period, particularly New Wave. Does anyone else like the 80's, or will I have to rock out to Tainted Love all by myself?


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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 09:08

I'm a big The Cure fan!

(probably the biggest in my countryWink)
I also enjoy 80's Metallica, Joy Division, Spandau Ballet, Go West, Petra, etc. etc....


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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 10:00
The 80s were my twenties, and yes, I like a lot of 80s music.
 
 
I believe those who roundly condemn all 80s music, as if it was all the same, tend to know only what they heard on commercial radio. Yes, there was some terrible stuff, & some more that was indifferent, but there was also plenty of very good music, in a wide variety of styles (same with 60s, 70s & 90s).
 
The 80s were a decade, not a genre!


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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: July 11 2006 at 10:09
Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

 
U2's first album was released in 1980.
Yes, though they were founded in 1976.
 
I think when people think of "80s music" as some sort of trend, they are really thinking more of the period from around 77 to 86 or so. Lots of the so-called major "8os" bands started releasing albums around 77-78(Talking Heads, Cars, Dire Straits, XTC, Police, Boomtown Rats, Echo & the Bunnymen, Stranglers, etc.), and grunge/Seattle sound came along (to push them off the airwaves) somewhere in the latter half of the 80s, did it not? 


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Posted By: darren
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 06:31

Ok, let's just say a lot of great music was RELEASED in the 80's is 80's music. This will clear up who was really a 70's band or whatever.

I seems some people will say 80's music sucked and when you mention a great song released in the 80's, it doesn't count because the band is really a 70's band. I don't agree and not sure I totally understand this reasoning.


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 07:10
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

 
U2's first album was released in 1980.
Yes, though they were founded in 1976.
 
I think when people think of "80s music" as some sort of trend, they are really thinking more of the period from around 77 to 86 or so. Lots of the so-called major "8os" bands started releasing albums around 77-78(Talking Heads, Cars, Dire Straits, XTC, Police, Boomtown Rats, Echo & the Bunnymen, Stranglers, etc.), and grunge/Seattle sound came along (to push them off the airwaves) somewhere in the latter half of the 80s, did it not? 
 
 
Ride on Peter, my brother in aspiration
 
 
 
I mean:
 
Right onWink
 
 


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keep our sand-castle virtues
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 12 2006 at 07:48
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

BTW, ABC's album was called "The Lexicon of Love"


There's an album I've not listened to for a while... however, I always preferred "Beauty Stab"; great production & big guitar sound.

I've no real problem with 1980s music (well, no more than I have with the music from any decade - each has its high and low points), the problem I have with the 1980s is the clothes we wore...

+++confession time+++

My name is Jim Garten, and in the 1980s I wore skin tight jeans with red piping down the sides...

+++deep breath+++

...and I had a mullett!

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