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Topic: Fish vocals style
Posted By: martinprog77
Subject: Fish vocals style
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 04:20

Most people say that the vocal style of fish is was pretty much a peter gabriel's clone but for me sounds a100% peter hammills.so what do you think



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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 04:53
Hammill. It is not for nothing that "Fool's Mate" and "Over" are lying on the floor on the cover of "Fugazi".

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 05:00
I'll have to go with both of you here. Hammill's for sure - the one who is a Gabriel clone is Phil Collins!Wink


Posted By: Tasartir
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 05:05
Gabriel for me.

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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 05:54
50% PETER GABRIEL
20% PHIL COLLINS
25% PETER HAMMILL
5% JON ANDERSON
 
 


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 05:59
Jon Anderson?!?Confused


Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 09:08
Fish is his own person  ... Its about time most of you accepted the fact that Fish is brilliant and copied nobody Smile


Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 09:30
<<Fish is his own person ... Its about time most of you accepted the fact that Fish is brilliant and copied nobody>>

I'd accept that if only the evidence wasn't so lopsided in favor of Fish 'lifting' a few ideas from Gabriel.

E

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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 09:41
Fish's voice might resemble Peter Gabriel's from time to time, but he has a completely different approach and style.
It is true that this approach is similar to Peter Hammill's...with one great difference: Fish CAN sing!

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 10:03
Originally posted by BiGi BiGi wrote:

Fish's voice might resemble Peter Gabriel's from time to time, but he has a completely different approach and style.
It is true that this approach is similar to Peter Hammill's...with one great difference: Fish CAN sing!

You obviously haven't heard much Hammill, else you would know he definitely CAN sing. I recommend you listen to "This Side of the Looking Glass" from his album "Over"; if you still say he can't sing after that, you are a hopeless case.

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 10:10
Definitely Hammill, especially in the beginning of Grendel.


Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 10:14
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Jon Anderson?!?Confused
 
 
Uhm, already... Greg Lake would go well... I believe that 5% can go well for all of the classic singer...


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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:00
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

<<Fish is his own person ... Its about time most of you accepted the fact that Fish is brilliant and copied nobody>>

I'd accept that if only the evidence wasn't so lopsided in favor of Fish 'lifting' a few ideas from Gabriel.

E
Early Marillion lifted a few ideas from Genesis ,there's Grendel sounding a bit like Suppers Ready in places  , what better teacher than a master like Peter Gabriel  ?  (not forgetting Gabriel was influenced by Bill and Ben the flower pot men) are we going to call Gabriel unoriginal ? I thought not Wink 

I applaud Fish for being a great students of the arts . When you think about it all we do here in humanity is emulate what inspires us anyway (and if we have the "vision to emulate what is worthy that's our own good fortune)   . That doesn`t make Fish`s contribution any less valid does it ? (and he did bring with him his own sense of style)  

people always seem to run Fish down like he is a flim flam man or something , I however have the deepest amount of respect for Fish the man is a genius just like Gabriel is. 


Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:02
Originally posted by martinprog77 martinprog77 wrote:

Most people say that the vocal style of fish is was pretty much a peter gabriel's clone but for me sounds a100% peter hammills.so what do you think

I consider him a second Gabriel, and also is style is very near to Genesis' style: a classic symphonic prog


Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:16
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

Fish is his own person  ... Its about time most of you accepted the fact that Fish is brilliant and copied nobody Smile
 
I agree with that


Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:45
Originally posted by ProgFan ProgFan wrote:

Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

Fish is his own person  ... Its about time most of you accepted the fact that Fish is brilliant and copied nobody Smile
 
I agree with that
 
 
Nevertheless its vocal stamp it is very similar to Peter Gabriel... For this reason fish is compelled to imitate Gabriel.


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Posted By: AcostaFulano
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 14:43
for me, neither


Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 21:24
Fish obviously looks up to these classic prog singers, but he has invented a style of his own.  He may resemble Hammill sometimes, but really he just sounds like Fish.  I love all the singers mentioned but Fish is Fish, none of the others.
His lyrics, though to me are most similar to Hammil's lyrics, and his stage presence may resemble Gabriel Stern Smile


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 22:33
On a side note: Fish was the first choice of Hammill for the role of Montresor when he recorded "The Fall of the House of Usher", but they found out their voices sounded too similar, so Hammill chose Andy Bell of Erasure instead.

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 22:52
He was influenced without becoming a copy. I'd say his voice sounds more like Gabriel than Hammill. It's only the natural voice tone though, their styles are quite different.

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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 22:55
One thing is natural colour / tone on one's voice, other thing is to emulate techniques and vocal resources.

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Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: June 06 2006 at 00:57
90% Cod
10% Red Herring
 
Big smile


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