Not quite new to prog
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Topic: Not quite new to prog
Posted By: Sathvik
Subject: Not quite new to prog
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 06:57
I've been the hugest fan of prog/psychadellic rock bands like Pink Floyd and Porcupine Tree, and prog metal bands like Dream Theater, Opeth and Pain of Salvation for the longest time, Tool too but I'm not quite sure what category they fall into (come to think of it, they deserve they're own genre  ). Obviously, these are all really big names and all I've found myself exposed to...its only recently that I've started dipping my fingers into other, older prog/psyc stuff (Camel, King Crimson).
Came across this site a few weeks back and have been browsing the forums practically every day since, and a few other bands seem to appeal to all/most proggies and I figured where better to ask for which albums I should get my hands on to get a feel for: Yes Genesis ELP Marillion Rush Saying all their albums are must-haves isn't going to help much, so if you could suggest 2-3 albums (if the list even goes that long) for each of them it would be much appreciated. If there are any other essential prog rock bands that I've left out feel free to squeeze them into the list. I know that these are just the most well-known/widely appreciated artists, and theres a lot of excellent (if not better) lesser known ones...but since I'm still relatively new to the stuff I'd like to start with these before engulfing myself in the relatively obscure lot. ------------- 
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 07:11
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Hey - Welcome Sathvik. There are quite a few experts in each of the genres of Progressive Rock. Keep an eye out for them in the forums, if you have questions regarding Progressive Rock music. Here are my suggestions for some albums to start you off:
I am personally not a great fan of Rush but the above named albums are amongst their most popular albums. I hope you enjoy these albums. Have fun and keep on "progging"
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 07:12
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Yes - Close To The Edge/Fragile/The Yes Album
Rush - 2112/A Farewell To Kings/Moving Pictures ELP - Tarkus/Brain Salad Surgery Genesis - Selling England By The Pound/Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Marillion - Script For A Jester's Tear/Misplaced Childhood |
Posted By: Tasartir
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 07:20
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Hmm, tough question Sathvik, maybe not for some but definetely for me.
Start with Yes' Close to the Edge
Got to Marillion's "Brave" or "Misplaced Childhood" or try both because they are different eras of Marillion, both are great and different from each other.
Rush's 2112 should be up next
Genesis' Selling England by the Pound
and ELP's debut album, although I don't heart them that much at all. ------------- ...Histoires Sans Paroles... |
Posted By: Sathvik
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 07:27
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Thanks so much. I completely forgot to mention that I wanted to get into some of the newer stuff as well...the more acclaimed names I came across being:
The Flower Kings Anglagard Spock's Beard EDIT: Just thought I'd explain that I put up this thread because I've found that the general discussion here is between prog fans that know a fair amount of all of these bands, and it was a little difficult skimming recommendations out of the plethora of threads on these forums. -------------
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 07:48
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I know all Flower kings albums very well. I would start with "Stardust we are" followed by "Space revolver". "Paradox hotel" is also a good choice. Don't start with "Unfold the future" unless you're in for some complicated jazzy (and ultimately very good) music. Anglagard made only 2 albums and a live album. Hybris is very good and seems to be held in higher esteem than rhe other album "Epilog" which i haven't listened to yet. From (Neal morses) Spocks beard i think "Beware of darkness" or "The light" is a good place to start. I prefer both albums to "V" myself. |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 07:57
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Welcome Sathvik! If you are looking for some newer bands, you have got to try Porcupine Tree. Deadwing, In Absentia and the rerelease of Stupid Dreams are all great albums. Their older stuff is equally good. The two Anglagard CD's are nearly impossible to find but fantastic. V and Beware of Darkness by Spock's Beard are pretty good. Not a fan of Flower Kings. The earlier posts made good mention of the first 5 bands you listed. |
Posted By: Sathvik
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 08:11
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I'm fairly well acquainted with Porcupine Tree, which is why I didn't stick them in the list. Thanks for all the other recommendations though : ) -------------
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 08:16
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Welcome Sathvik.
Genesis - Selling obviously, and dont forget The Lamb
Marillion - all of the Fish period. Rush - Hemispheres. Gentle Giant - Octopus and In a Glass House
Riverside - Second Life Syndrome
Have fun.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 08:30
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Yes - The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge ELP - ELP, Tarkus, Trilogy Genesis - Nursery Crime, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound Rush - Hemispheres, Moving Pictures, Counterparts I'm not a big Marillion fan, so I'll just stick to their debut "Script for a Jester's Tear": "Misplaced Childhood is considered their best, but I don't really like it. As to my personal favourites, I can heartily recommend Caravan's second ("If I Could Do It All Over Again I Would Do It All Over You") and, obviously, third ("In the Land of Grey and Pink"), Gentle Giant's "Octopus" and Van Der Graaf Generator "Pawn Hearts. |
Posted By: Progfans
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 10:18
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For Camel start with the ' first albums or take a live records
For King Crimson::: ITCOTCK, ( first one) Discipline and Trhack... one of each period... You can also add Power to belive to finish.
Personnally, both riverside albums are essentiels to any collectors fans. ------------- La cuisine c,est comme l,amour, il faut y croire pour que ca marche |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 10:28
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Yes, in addition to the bands you listed I strongly recommend getting "Mirage" by Camel. It is one of my all time favorites.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 10:34
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You should also give Van Der Graaf Generator due consideration...
Basically, what you should be realising now is that prog is ABSOLUTELY F***ING MASSIVE and the only way to find out where to go is trial and error. The samples on the PA database are useful for this purpose.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 10:49
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Rush:
Earlier, more prog era: A Farewell to Kings
Straight-forward rock with a bit of prog era: Moving Pictures
80s synth rock (not a bad thing) era: Signals
Yes:
All-time masterpiece: Close to the Edge
CTTE but Jazzier: Relayer
A simpler and more relaxed album with the same level of creativity: Going for the One
Marillion:
The best place to start: Script for a Jester's Tear
Best album of the Fish era (IMO)(Much debate on this one
 ): Misplaced ChildhoodBest Hogarth-era album: Marbles
Genesis:
A complete masterwork: Foxtrot
Softer than Foxtrot, yet still genius: Selling England by the Pound
Two underrecognised gems: Trick of the Tail, Wind and Wuthering
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 14:47
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Yes: The Yes Album, Close To The Edge.
Genesis: Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound.
ELP: Tarkus, Brain Salad Surgery
Marillion: Script For A Jester's Tear, Brave
Rush: 2112, Moving Pictures.
The Flower Kings: Back In The World Of Adventures, Space Revolver
Spock's Beard: The Kindness Of Strangers, V.
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 14:51
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Yes: Close To The Edge, Relayer
Genesis: SEBTP, Foxtrot
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery
Rush: 2112, Hemispheres
I don't know much about Marillion but I've heard Script For A Jester's Tear was brilliant ------------- When the world is sick Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 15:14
hmmmm....  hahahha... I'll have to Q&A you about that one some time. back on topic... micky's recommends... off the beaten tracks as far as the groups you asked for, but absolutely essential.. Gentle Giant - Octopus (you must own this record...find someone here who'd say anything bad about it....you won't) Van Der Graaf Generator - H to He...who am the only one. ((Pawn Hearts while more 'famous'... is also IMO the weaker and a wierder album (a daunting proposition for a newb) ... start with a stronger and a bit more accessible album)) Hawkwind - Space Ritual (music so cool, even a non-prog fan can kill brain cells to it) Can - Future Days - A nice introduction to the minimalist side of prog.... a fabulous album...will take you to far off places) at last but not least... Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra ( feeling a bit....risky... take a listen to a masterpiece of dark prog an orgy of mellotron and yes.... singing in Italian... strongly recommend as your first venture outside of Anglo-prog...if you don't like it... I'll refund your money...shipping and handling excluded of course ahahhah) ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Ghost Rider wrote:Posted By: Sathvik
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 07:41
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Thanks for the recommendations, I fell in love almost immediately with Genesis...they're incredible.
Still getting into the other stuff...Gentle Giant and Yes really stood out though. Script for a Jester's Tear also proved to be a great, easy listen. -------------
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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 07:51
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Everyone's recomendations are good except for Spock's Beard, I wouldn't waste my time with a lot of those newer symphonic bands they're just clones of the old ones.
I think also Mahavishnu Orchestra's Inner Mounting Flame and Birds of Fire, I would recommend Magma to you but if your a newbie to prog they might scare you away, so wait a bit b4 you get into those guys or Zehuel in general, try some of the Krautrock bands although I must warn you many of them may require more than the prescribed 7 listens, Can has taken me many months to appreciate, so to a Krautrock newbie I'd recommend Faust IV, which IMO has some slight Symphonic traits to them and are a lot of fun. You'll also eventually need to get into Frank Zappa's Hotrats and Mike Oldfield-Tubular Bells is a prog masterpiece, yet it is somewhat underated on this website which is strange.
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 10:17
Here's my recommendation, based on another post I read, I would listen
to different prog in this order. I am a fan of harder music, Prog with
balls, if you will, but I still enjoy the fantastic musicianship of the
standard quintessential Prog bands of the 70s. Definitely check out some of the samples offers here.
In addition, Prog Metal I like that you didn't list but may want to check out:
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 13:30
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These are the ones I'd recommend you: Rush: Caress of Steel A Farewell to Kings Hemispheres Moving Pictures Signals Yes: Time and a Word Close to the Edge Fragile Relayer Genesis: Nursery Cryme Foxtrot Selling England by the Pound A Trick of the Tail ELP: Emerson, Lake & Palmer Tarkus Trilogy |
Posted By: mgallard
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 15:12
Excellent list, couldn't have done it better, agree with all and would add to Genesis masterpieces: "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway". I'd also add a Steve Hackett record to the list: "Voyage of the Acolyte" I'd also recommend Riverside, "Second Life Syndrome", as posted before. Magic Pie, is very cool too (debut album). Mogens |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 23:28
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I will be repeating some selections, but that will just solidify the choices you should definitely make. These are also the ones I feel are best to start with. It's not necessarily a list of outstanding achievment.
Rush: "Fly by Night," "2112," "Moving Pictures" ELP: "Emerson Lake and Palmer," "Trilogy," "Brain Salad Surgery" Yes: "The Yes Album," "Fragile," "Close to the Edge" Genesis: "Nursery Cryme," Foxtrot," "A Trick of the Tail" Marillion: "Script for a Jester's Tear," "Fugazi," "Misplaced Childhood" (I can do without the Hogarth stuff) Spock's Beard: "The Light," "Beware of Darkness," "V" Anglagard: Both albums ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 01:12
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Genesis: Selling England... and Foxtrot
Yes: Relayer and CTTE (Relayer first! I have the feeling that, like I, you might not like CTTE)
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery, Trilogy
Random, more obscure but not totally obscure bands in assorted genres:
Van der Graaf Generator: H to He... (definately this one first; it's way more acessible than Pawn Hearts)
Frank Zappa: Hot Rats and The Grand Wazoo (Excellent introduction to Fusion. Nevermind that FZ is listed under Avant-Prog) Overnite Sensation for his more mainstream side
Jethro Tull: Thick As A Brick
Radiohead: Ok Computer, The Bends, Amnesiac
Tangerine Dream: Phaedra
King Crimson: ITCOTCK (everyone likes this, but I'm not sure why) ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 02:56
its interesting u mentioned Dream Theater first for your favorite prog metal...
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