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Topic: Classical music --> Prog interpretation
Posted By: stonebeard
Subject: Classical music --> Prog interpretation
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 00:03
Of course, we all know about ELP's interpretation of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition. And as I was listening to Pachabel's Canon in D, I was thinking: "This could work in a prog-metal interpretating if orchestrated well enough."
So what do you think? Should prog artists interpet classical pieces in their own style?
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Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 00:09
"Night on the Bare Mountain (Mussogsky)" is simply begging to be interpreted somehow. Prog-Metal's heaviness with symphonic prog's grace and sensibility with Jazz Fusion's virtousity would make for a wonderful adaptation.
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 00:16
What is it with all the threads concerning what would something sound like as prog metal lately. 
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 00:17
Of course I say yes, I'm a Sky fan after all and they did a whole album
of covers of classical pieces and a whole album of Mozart covers with
St. Martin's in the Fields. I'm all for it.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 00:32
Yes, I think they should. After all, there are disco or easy-listening covers of classical pieces to be found , and those made by prog artists are much more interesting. I don't know about prog-metal, though, while I'm obviously familiar with what ELP did - not just with "Pictures at an Exhibition", but also with Aaron Copland's pieces and (my personal favourite) Bartok's "Allegro Barbaro".
BTW, Stonie, what brand of Italian coffee are you drinking?
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 00:40
Not a discussion of massacring classical pieces at all.
My personal view is that prog artists don't know how to reproduce the flavour of a classical piece.Maybe my over-powered critic view,as I'm a pianist in the classical business,but still...ELP barely make it to reasonable (but in their case it's the case of an "own interpretation",since most are not transcription,but improvisations).Tangerine Dream,when they ocassionally do something like this,don't make any impression.Klaus Schulze's "Goes Classic" is among the worst things I've ever hear.Ian Anderson is,for me,the only one who can capture some of the Bouree essence,but not everytime and not all the essence.
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Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 01:02
Why not? They just take the basis and improvising on it..
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 02:44
Deniitely NO. But that's just my opinion.
How am I supposed to vote in this pole anyway?
Should it be done? Is it massacring classic pieces? NO and YES.
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 03:57
No. It is alone a manner to do a tribute to fundamental musicians and composers for the actual musical formation
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Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 05:17
It should, cause I'm a sucker for this kind of thing and as you can guess big ELP fan.
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Posted By: Goldenavatar
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 13:03
Jeff Schu wrote:
"Night on the Bare Mountain (Mussogsky)" is simply begging to be interpreted somehow. Prog-Metal's heaviness with symphonic prog's grace and sensibility with Jazz Fusion's virtousity would make for a wonderful adaptation. |
This has already been done by Fireballet. Check them out on the archives. And by the way, Hell yes it should be done! Classical composers ripped off and arranged folk tunes ALL THE TIME. Why should prog musicians be held to a different standard? Besides it is out of love for the music that this is done. It would be the height of pretentiousness to bar musicians from playing music they love. By the way, the Brandenburg Concerto #3 is arranged and performed superbly by Load. Very cool.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 13:47
Ricochet wrote:
Klaus Schulze's "Goes Classic" is among the worst things I've ever hear.
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WOW, ricochet just bashed Schulze!!!   
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 15:43
Ghost Rider wrote:
Yes, I think they should. After all, there are disco or easy-listening covers of classical pieces to be found , and those made by prog artists are much more interesting. I don't know about prog-metal, though, while I'm obviously familiar with what ELP did - not just with "Pictures at an Exhibition", but also with Aaron Copland's pieces and (my personal favourite) Bartok's "Allegro Barbaro".
BTW, Stonie, what brand of Italian coffee are you drinking?
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Caffe Mako. I just found it in the back of the freezer. I thought it was all out months ago. Naturally, it's a bit less tasty, but still good. 
Edit: I'm not quite sure if it's imported, but there is a great amount of Italian on the bag, so I assumed as much.
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 16:18
Yes sure
it is Art
after all
it should flow and follw
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 18:13
I'm not a fan of covers, a proffesional band shold write its own material and this interpritation of classical pieces is basically just covers.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 18:17
I can't see any harm in it. It may not be the best...but still.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 00:41
el böthy wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Klaus Schulze's "Goes Classic" is among the worst things I've ever heard.
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WOW, ricochet just bashed Schulze!!!   
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I know.but that's reality.
Rest asure though it's THE ONLY FLAW in his monumental works. 
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 04:44
why not.anybopdy listen to trans-siberian orchestra ,they mix rock and classical very good [especially on beethoven's last night]
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 05:14
stonebeard wrote:
Of course, we all know about ELP's interpretation of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition. And as I was listening to Pachabel's Canon in D, I was thinking: "This could work in a prog-metal interpretating if orchestrated well enough."
So what do you think? Should prog artists interpet classical pieces in their own style? |
I think that progressive rock bands don't have to make interpretations of classical music pieces...the only times it had been made it was "dramatic" and an "insult" to the original interpretations...let's say that progressive rock has to go further in "avant-garde" and sound experimentations...not playing "grotesque" covers.
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 05:19
Posted By: Duncan
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 08:45
I prefer to see it done with a sense of humour. I've always found ELP's attempts banal and self-serving.
I don't think there's anything inherently sacred about classical music.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 17:07
Lloyd Webber's interpretation of Paganini's Caprice in A Minor/Rakhmaninov's variations on the same is an absolute masterpiece!
It can be done - so I reckon it should be.
Even if I think that ELP's "Pictures..." is a complete travesty, and Sky's "Toccata" is painful, I have heard some really interesting interpretations - such as the Butcher Shop Quartet's version of Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring".
"Rite...", of course, contains so many time signatures and polyrhythms and is so rhythm centered that you'd think that most Prog metal bands would be queueing up to do a version!
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