Neo Prog vs Prog-Metal
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Topic: Neo Prog vs Prog-Metal
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Subject: Neo Prog vs Prog-Metal
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:06
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Well, I just thought I'd kick start what seems to be an old rivalry so have at it everyone.
Which prog subgenra is superior???
Neo Prog or Prog-Metal. ------------- 
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:16
| I actually like more Prog Metal. |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 02:17
| There are surely more prog-metal bands that I like than neo prog bands. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 02:25
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Not choosin'.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:04
| Neo-Prog.I've become dissappointed in most of Prog-Meatl pretty much,and only some bands still sound awesome for me: OPETH,TOOL... |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:08
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BOTH!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:08
| I can't choose between Prog-Metal and Neo_prog, I like both style's very much |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:11
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Prog metal ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:12
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I like Neo Prog ... but I love Prog Metal!
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 12:23
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Prog Metal without a shadow of doubt. -------------  
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Posted By: Psychedelia
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 12:34
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Easilly neo prog much more empassioned, better arrangements, better melodies. Just better in every way i can think of.
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 13:53
| Prog-metal. It's a genre that's actually evolved over the last decade, whereas all too many neo-prog simply imitate thirty year old albums on a much more simplistic and pop-ish level. |
Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 14:06
| I prefer neo-prog, specially IQ and Marillion, I enjoy them more than any prog-metal band, but I admit that prog-metal is more varied. Neo-prog bands sound all very similar, while prog-metal sounds very diifferent if you listen to Dream Theater or Opeth or Riverside or Tool or Pain Of Salvation... all of them own their distinctive sound, so I generally find more exciting to discover new prog-metal bands than to discover new neo-prog bands. |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 15:10
Interesting post... I admit I haven't really listened to very much Neo Prog but that's the general impression I get from peoples descriptions of the genra. BTW in which direction did you throw your vote???
I won't vote since I hadn't listened to enough Neo Prog butI've been a fan of Prog Metal for years now. -------------
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eddietrooper wrote:Posted By: Mr. Krinkle
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 15:12
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neither of them
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 15:12
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I like both.
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 15:12
| Love them both. Actually I think there's a large overlap between the genres, Arena and Riverside come to mind. |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 16:34
| 'Neo Prog' for me. Bands like Pendragon, Pallas, IQ and Marillion may not exactly push boundaries but I love their music. I think the above bands inject enough of their own charisma to stop being labelled derivative. It's more in keeping with the symphonic sounds of the 70s I love so much, and personally, I think 'neo prog' has better songwriting, or at least, a type of songwriting I prefer. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 16:53
I dont agree with that at all, there are clear differences between the big four bands (Pendragon, Marillion, IQ, and Arena) and you will find the same if you dig deeper into the genre, though you are als likely to find some blatent copiests as well, but what genre arnt you.
I voted for both. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 17:01
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Prog Metal is Fantastic
Neo Prog is dull , to me
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 17:03
I voted for the "love both" option.
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 17:24
Well. I have the compete discographies of Pendragon, Marillion, IQ and Arena, and also some more (Collage, Satellite, Fish solo albums, Pallas, Shadowland, Jadis...) and of course I know they are not simple copies of each other, but they all have a similar sound (soft and melodic voices, melodic and soaring guitar solos, a lot of keyboard atmospheres, certain 80's feel...), and that's why anyone can recognize a neo-prog album. although inside that type of sound there are differences betwen them, for example Arena are harder, IQ are darker and so on.
But prog-metal is not so well defined, it's just a genre with metal and progressive elements, and you can find many different approaches to that mix. It's evident that i.e. Tool and Dream Theater have nothing to do with each other, but take any two neo-prog bands and you'll see much more similarities.
A recent example for me: This week I have discovered Pain Of Salvation (I purchased Remedy Lane) and I found out that their style is completely different from Dream Theater. They are both metal and they are both prog but they don't play the same style of music really.
So IMO prog-metal is potentially more surprising for me than neo-prog. Anyway I like both.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 18:11
In that case you should try Saens, they sound absolutely nothing like other Neo bands, very cool group. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 19:31
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Prog Metal!! ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 06:53
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Prog-Metal... although I've been welcomed in the prog rock world via neo-prog (i.e. marillion), I still think that a lot of prog metal is more daring and explorative than neo prog... (although there seems to be a tendency to be more heavy as a neo-prog band in recent times)
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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 17:12
| Neo prog (except for Marillion and IQ) is not very interesting...but there are some prog metal band like Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree or Threshold that are the best nowadays... |
Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 17:19
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Prog-metal is my favourite. It's not that I don't like Neo-prog, but it's one of the many subgenres I have to look into more often. I know there are neo-prog bands that I would like, but currently there are too much cool prog-metal bands I don't know yet, and I want to get to know them better first. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/manmadegod/?chartstyle=ScarlettJohansson1"> 
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