ZEUHL
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Topic: ZEUHL
Posted By: Abstrakt
Subject: ZEUHL
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 12:35
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I just don't get that genre...
What's the beauty???
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 12:42
...and it's fun - you have a very suitable nickname for this genre  .I don't get it too - sorry,can't help you on this problem
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 12:57
You'll find beauty http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=671 - Here! (If you stream the song). Next on your list should be Magma: Udu Wudu. I hope that will do the trick for you. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Abstrakt wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 13:05
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oh man.. face it.. Zeuhl isn't for everyone... even in a genre where
it's fans exemplify open-mindedness.... Zeuhl can be a bit much. I love it, for it it's creative nature, especially Magma where you've got jazz, classical, operatic singing, the incredible vocals of Stella Vander and Klaus Blasquiz and mind-blowing instrumental talent all rolled together. Abstrakt... give it the old 7 listen rule.. if it doesn't click... move on to something else. I love it.. nearly as much as symphonic prog... but others do not. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 13:06
that is an incredible album. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Orez17
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 13:12
| Try listening to 'Far Corner - Far Corner', it was the first zeuhl album I ever liked. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 13:13
ahhh... I don't have that one. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Orez17
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 13:17
Try it! they have an amazing electric-cello player instead of the usual electric-guitar. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 13:29
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sweet.... I'll keep that one in mind.. Thanks!
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 14:15
Thanks for the recommendation! I did stream that track, and it was great - though obviously no easy listening. A friend of mine is crazy about Magma - time to catch some as well!  |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 14:20
it's a great album... you'd love it. Stream Magma's De Futura hahahah... you'll LOVE that hahahha ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 15:12
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I found this thread helpful, too.
That song by DÜN is great. ------------- [IMG]http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i165/amorfous/astro-1.jpg"> |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 15:21
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my first Zeuhl album was MDK, and I loved it right away different genres are offputting to different people, for example i wouldn't touch neoprog with a ten foot stick
as a side note
I think DUN's Eros is fantastic, but wouldnt recommend it for a first timer, that one takes a lot of attention
Aaron
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 15:32
I would actually reccomend Dün for a first timer. More than most Magma, and defenatly before MDK. If you're used to let's say; Hatfield and the North and Soft Machine, Eros shouldn't be to hard to get into. It was my first real Zeuhl love, and its still my favorite instrumental album. I also love about everything by Magma now. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Rashikal
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 15:33
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zeuhl is wonderfrul, it's progressive metal and neo prog that has no "beauty" ------------- 
listen to Hella |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 15:36
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I'm so pleased you both liked the Dün track, Ghost Rider and Meddler.
There shouldn't be any reason for you not to love the whole fantastic
album.
------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 16:55
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Dun and Magma are fantastic. I definitely recommend Far Corner too. I have yet to grab their album (though I will soon), but the mp3s I've heard were very good. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:38
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I don't see the beauty either, Zeuhl is so unique I may be missing the point of it. -------------  
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 20:19
There is no beauty in Zeuhl  It's raw, hard, complex, quirky and above all, downright UGLY.And thats why I love it!  and Dün - Eros is a masterpiece ------------- 
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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 20:46
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I think zheul lacks the meloncholy of symphonic prog etc, zheul has emotion but not the sorrow as say In the court of the Crimson King, there doesn't seem much 'pain' in zheul. I love Magma and Dun though, but not when I'm feeling meloncholy; Genesis and Van der graft does the trick for that for me. ------------- |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 21:47
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I had never even heard of zeuhl, until I saw a similar thread a little while ago. I now have a copy of "Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh," and I really like it. It wasn't easy to find, and I would like to find more.
It definitely is not an easy style to jump into. Its oddness is a lot of what attracts me to it. I find it to be closer to opera than anything else. Indescribable really, but I'll try. Imagine experimental jazz, add Zappa's quirkiness, a dose of metal channeled through King Crimson, opera singers, and the influence of Richard Wagner. Make sense? If it does, then I probably haven't explained it very well.  ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 21:53
an excellent job... and you cut to the chase on Zeuhl..at least for me... the oddness the quirkiness is what appeals to me. Being one who's been called eccentric.. odd.. and a downright flake at times hahah.. I can relate to it.
Listen to Stoah off of Magma's Kobaia album...... that is a prog song
that only a prog fan who's a couple cans short of a six pack could love
ahahhah------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 22:19
Wow, Mikey didn't think you were the Zeuhl type.  ... Well my experience with the genra is rather limited I love what I hear so far out of Magma. I just think that they are awesome!!! I have the albums:
Magma (Kobaia) (1970)
1001 Centigrade (1971)
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Both albums are wonderful and being that I'm allready a huge Jazz/Rock Fusion fan I took to magma rather quicky also I love the idea of them being a "CONCEPT BAND", it's just crazy!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 22:28
hahaha.. I love that term... have used it a few times here... Magma...the 'concept BAND' hahaha. As if a meer album was enough to harness all the ideas floating around in Vanders head. So am I wrong.... Stoah off of Kobaia... do you have to be nuts to find pleasure in those vocals oh... and your next non-Magma purchase.... get Eros by Dun... gimp recommended it to be awhile back. Incredible album... knowing yours tastes.... you'll love it. Check the sample if you haven't already. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 22:58
Well, I've only recently aquired the albums so I haven't gotten to listen to them all that much (even though I've listened to De Futura nearly 100 times) but their vocals in general would be alot for the average listener to swallow. I definately hear some Zappa in their music as well. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:08
hahahha... how I adore De Futura... had that baby shaking the windows this afternoon. (had the day off today and it was nice hahaha). The vocals are obviously a bit to swallow.... but oh are they so tastey hahahha. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:19
Thanks for the reccomendation Micky. I am listening to it right now, and I think it's great! Either we are geniuses, or we should seek immediate professional help. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 00:23
That's definitely a kind of beauty as well. Not in the classical sense, perhaps, but beautiful all the same - think of the difference between classical and Gothic architecture. That track from "Eros" sure was intriguing, to say the least. And, Rocktopus, you're perfectly right when you say that there's not such a big step from Soft Machine and Hatfield and the North to Zeuhl: yesterday, when I was listening to that Dun track, I kept thinking of the Softs. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:04
The beauty is that you're a Kraut fan saying this.
I mean, you say you don't like avant-garde, and yet you listen to Kraut rock. And if you've managed to find the beauty in Kraut, surely you can find the beauty in Zeuhl.
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Posted By: silvertree
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:57
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I remember my first tme listening to Magma : I put the vinyl away 30 seconds after... and I thought : what is this ? Noise ?
A couple of years later, I decided to give it a spin and now I absolutely love Magma. I even went to see them in concert ! Vander is incredible and awesome. He's got a great voice too.
Anyway, this is just to say that Magma is very hard to get into. Just come back to it later if it doesn't get you at first.
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Posted By: YvesNL
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:49
Well... (and here I imagine {silly me!
 } that you're really meaning what you're saying and not just trolling around) what is your experience in that 'genre'? Ever listened to Magma? (and here I imagine {I must be out of my head! } that you actually listened to some 'zeuhl ' music) What don't you get? The vocals? The jazz element? The spirituality? The fact that many Magma-fans are unnecessarily fanatics? You ask : "What's the beauty???" euh... euh... What???? Any chance you can put that into more words? I have no idea what you're talking about. Beauty in the 'genre'? Beauty in the music? Beauty in the composition? Beauty??????? It's very intense music. Maybe is that too much for you? I'm not teasing! Some people really cannot deal with something THAT intense, just like some people cannot shut up even in the most wonderful silence.------------- Zïss ünt ëtnah |
Posted By: cucacola54
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:06
Dun - Eros  excelent album!!
i havent heard enough Zeuhl, i just own Eros, and a couple of Magmas albums, i like them all, but i need to hear more... the only problem is to find Zeuhl albums ------------- Most listened albums last week 
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:11
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Too many replies
someone give me a short summary, please
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Posted By: XTChuck
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 14:05
| I'll give you my summary. Zeuhl is for special tastes. |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 14:30
I've been meaning to try and find that album. I've been eyeing that one for a while now. -------------
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Posted By: cucacola54
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 14:55
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try here:
http://synphonic.8m.com/index.htm - http://synphonic.8m.com/index.htm ------------- Most listened albums last week
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Posted By: thetick
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 16:01
They are play here in Milwaukee WI (they are from Racine; just down the road). I heard a bit of it on the radio but could not listen long. I didn't know that was what Zeuhl was. It was very good. A bit jazzy for me but still very good. The bass player is also in a local prog intstrumental band called Kopecky (all three are brothers). ------------- Handing sanity to a faceless mind I step though the void into this blind Memory where I see life, death and purity Clocks dream tolls endlessly |