"spirit of radio" and "Close to the edge"
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Topic: "spirit of radio" and "Close to the edge"
Posted By: capitalist
Subject: "spirit of radio" and "Close to the edge"
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 09:31
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Anyone ever notice that the first few chords in "the preacher" section of Yes's Close to the Edge (the song "And You and I" !!), sound a lot like the main chords in "spirit of radio" by Rush? I know that kind of thing happens in music, but everytime I hear "the preacher" I get "spirit of radio" in my head.Not that Rush was copying (on purpose)!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 11:21
| Well I can't say I've ever noticed it and I can't hear any similarity in my head, but I will check it out tonight. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 11:25
hmmm... <sings respective tunes in head as actual songs are not here now> you may be right!  |
capitalist wrote:Posted By: Codis
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 11:31
Nope, just you  
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 11:38
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I`ll check it out. Ozzy Osbourne unintentionally ripped off a bass riff
from Yes on the track No More Tears. It happens. The Swiss heavy meyal
band Krokus even has a song which contains phrasings from Peel the
Paint by Gentle Giant. Can`t remember the track or album a friend of
mine had it back in the eighties, so this happens. Put an infinite
number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters.......
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 11:55
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I assume that, by "the preacher" section of Yes's Close to the Edge," you're actually referring to "The Preacher The Teacher" section of Yes' "And You And I"? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 11:59
Which bit is that then? Is the...yeow...Boom...de yeow ...Boom..de ad de ad de ada dea...etc.?. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: cmidkiff
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 12:47
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The more music you listen to the more you will realize this is a common occurrence. ------------- cmidkiff |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 14:12
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Well, the opening chords of "The Preacher, The Teacher" are variations on E (E, E/B, E/G#, E/A, E/B) and, from memory, Spirit Of Radio is E, B, G# and A. So there is some similarity but The Preacher is in 3/4 and acoustic and Spirit is straight 4/4 and rocky, so it's hardly plagiarism. As for "yeow...Boom...de yeow ...Boom..de ad de ad de ada dea." I have absolutely no idea.
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Posted By: Tasartir
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 14:12
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Yeah, I haven't actually realized this, but you might be right...but as many of the others said: this happens very often. ------------- ...Histoires Sans Paroles... |
Posted By: capitalist
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 14:58
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ha ha, yes I meant the song "And You and I" !!!!!!!!! ------------- http://music.download.com/dollarsign/3615-8627_32-100666505.html - Click here for my original prog music
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Posted By: capitalist
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 15:11
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ok let me pick on Rush some more....
the opening of "Tom Sawyer" (the drum beat and bass synth note)
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the opening of "I Know What I Like" on Genesis' Seconds Out live album, Bruford on drums (I think)
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 15:15
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Listening to And You And I now, sorry but I can't really see the similarity. btw Ian, the bit he's talking about starts when the acoustic guitar comes back in after the middle instrumental bit (i.e. it's the "Sad preacher nailed upon the coloured door of time" bit.) |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 15:16
| And can I just say at exactly 09:00 on And You and I is the greatest drum roll in the history of prog. |
Posted By: Pneubauer
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 16:11
AHAHA I was JUST thinking of posting that... and I thought I was the only one who noticed... ah... delicious... well anyways, im not sure if anyone put this one down yet (I replied as soon as I saw this post), but 'Love to love you' by Caravan (on 'In the land...') sounds very similar to 'Wild thing' by whomever... and also reminds my of 'Louie Louie' (at least I think they all sound similar). Maybe it just has that generic 60's pop song sound, but I love that track anyway, though ive heard people put it down because of the simplicity... What a great album that is... not related to the topic, but, isnt the little piano solo on the title track (In the land of grey and pink) the most beatiful piano playing in all of prog? I cant get over it... followed by a good solo too... cant figure out if its keyboard or guitar... think its guitar... whatever! Im done! I swear! Edit: oh and by the way... I believe the only track Bruford was playing on in Seconds Out was 'The Cinema Show' which means it was Chester Thompson on drums in 'I know what I like'... |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 16:16
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Hmmm. Maybe not entirely prog, but while we're at it: Halfway through the solo of Guns 'n Roses "November Rain" you'll find about two bars worth of the solo in "Hotel California" by The Eagles. Pretty sure that that is not entirely coincidental, and very sure that it's not prog - but it shows that what is stated here is far from unique in the world of music. Angelo - another 2 cents worth ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 16:29
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And I seem to think that a recurring bass guitar line in Fly by Night
is eerily reminiscent of the Focus Hamburger Concerto track's 'ba ba ba
ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba." (H.C. predates it by maybe a year).
Been a while since I listened to Fly By Night though, so I can't verify
if my memory is in error, but must be many similar bass-riffs.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 19:27
No, one goes 'ba ba ba ba', while the other goes 'ba ba ba ba'. See the difference? |
Posted By: Xanaduian
Date Posted: October 11 2006 at 22:31
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wow ok so i definitely noticed that similarity the first time i heard it but i couldnt place the second song but yeah you are right it is spirit of radio. I remember listening to that song and i said to myself "this seems familiar but i couldnt place it". So yes i agree with you. ------------- Follow men's eyes as they look to the skies, The shifting shafts of shining weave the fabric of their dreams. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 11 2006 at 22:36
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The chords on acoustic there are almost the same as DMB's "Crash into Me," but the rhythm is a bit different. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 13:11
No, just before that!  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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