Pair of tarts if you ask me.

If you wanna see insulting just pick a fight with me.

OK OK. If Mr.Lee apologizes I will apologize (again)and we can all have a merry merry Christmas and we can do away with this thread.

frenchie wrote: Vibrationbaby wrote: frenchie wrote: why cant this prog forum be a place for discussing music. its ok to have disputes and arguements but things shouldnt get personal. other people have to suffer when people fight. lets just discuss this amazing genre and co-operate like this forums guidelines would suggest. if you still wanna fight save it for msn not this forum. I agree 100% there Frenchie but I still like a good fight. Humans are a warrior race. thats perfectly understandable. i just dont like fights. especially not in the presence of lots of people or in places where fights should not happen. this is a place that encourages peace and co-operation, even if it does harvest lots of arguements and disagreements.

I disagree, LETS FIGHT! 

This is a tad disturbing what on earth has caused this ?I work 6 days a week so I cannot read or witness all that goes on but if this is the cause of Richardh's thread then I can understand why he wrote what he did.Surely this problem can be resolved by simple intelligent dialogue!

Sigh. Are you just going to go on and on with this?

What am I supposed to be apologizing for?

Vibrationbaby wrote: James Lee wrote: Sigh. Are you just going to go on and on with this? What am I supposed to be apologizing for? What do you think you are supposed to be appoloziing for? Are you capable of making an apology? It doesn't seem so. At this point I request that you make a renewal of of the previuos exchanges and ask you politely to act like a man and restore this progressive rock site to decency and peace. I will once  again say to you Mr.Lee  I apologize to you and the United States of America for my stupidity. What more do you want? Just a simple, I apologize,would  end all of this even if you don't even know what you are apologizing for. You would make me a most happy man.At least I can identify my in shortchtcomings and recognize them in short time. You are obviously not capable of this simple task. I do not want to make any unfounded assumptions but I think you are very insecure in many ways. Please tell the members of the site on a scale of one to ten how insecure you are.

 At least an 8 or 9, I'd say...why, have I been pretending all this time to be secure? Dude, I'm a mess. Is that a secret? I'm a bundle of insecurities that would make Woody Allen look like...uh...well some really secure guy...I can't think of a good example. If you're trying to provoke me, pointing out my psychological disorders or personality defects isn't going to do it- one of them is a tendency for brutal, frank self-honesty. Next time why don't you try to get me to reveal to everyone that I have a tendency to be long-winded and nerdy...

Listen, if some noob showed up and started demanding an apology without giving you any example of what you'd done, you'd tell them the same thing that I'm telling you.

Probably not quite the same way, though. But variety is the spice of life.

You're attempting to make it seem like I'm in the wrong for not apologizing; I'm saying I'm not planning to say "I'm sorry" without some specifics attached. Produce an example of my offenses, or accept my lack of apology.

You are some kind of idiot who would have never cut it in the military. There is such a thing called PEACE and obviously it does not exist in your heart. As a former military man I am the first one to loathe war and just go out and get the job done. Be a man and make amends. I think that statistically at this stage I am winning as far as the apologies go.

^ That's fine- I hope that gives you some satisfaction.

It seems like you feel you are proving your moral superiority over me to our fellow forum members. Are you aware of how childish and pointless this all seems to everyone? Some people may in fact be enjoying our back-and-forth on a reality-show/soap-opera level, but mostly it just makes people sad or irritated. It's all the same to me whether we talk about Pallas or Fusion or beer or SUVs or your dislike for me- they're all subjects I don't really care much about- but when other members start to use our 'back-and-forth' as an example of the declining quality of the site, it's time to wrap it up.

If you would like to IM me with further examples of your impressive personal history, be my guest. And if you want to feel that you are victorious in some way because I've stopped responding- again, go right ahead.

Vibrationbaby wins because James Lee gave up the fight. He started a war that he couldn`t finish. Just like Adolf Hitler he took the easy way out. Just because I made a comment about that obscure Canadian band RUSH Mr. Lee had to initiate this war and try and turn the people on this site against me. Well Mr. Lee You failed. I win. And Rush is outdated as the dinosaurs.

    I  WIN!

Vibrationbaby wrote: Vibrationbaby wins because James Lee gave up the fight. He started a war that he couldn`t finish. Just like Adolf Hitler he took the easy way out. Just because I made a comment about that obscure Canadian band RUSH Mr. Lee had to initiate this war and try and turn the people on this site against me. Well Mr. Lee You failed. I win. And Rush is outdated as the dinosaurs.     I  WIN!

Canadian Military dont make me laugh! Bet canadian planes have the same reverse gearage as Italian tanks

Stop swiggin the aviation fuel and give the puerile James-baiting a rest.

Or even better,hibernate til Spring..

 " I win! "    ?????   are you sure ?

Wow ! I hadn't seen this type of forum fighting here.

I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later . Too bad it had to happen at all.

I guess its human nature to want to be right... although being rightous can be anoying to others... just agree to disagree and move on.

I think some people need to aquire some maturity !

My 2 cents right or wrong...

Now can we all please move on  and talk about some cool prog !

tuxon wrote: I apologies for all I haven't said or done that could have avoided this ridiculous thread.

Tuxon...it's been a long time!

I had some problems with my internet provider, but he has apologiesed so I guess I'll have to forgive him and try and build on a better relationship based on mutual respect and trust. i have missed you all during my unvolluntary absence.

Why is everybody fighting, I thought we had left our popcorn and diet coke in the cupboard, with no intention to get them out again. (strange how it always evolves around James )

Hugs back to all of good spirit

tuxon wrote: strange how it always evolves around James

Doesn't everything?

Anyway, welcome back.

Vibrationbaby wrote: Reed Lover wrote: Vibrationbaby wrote: Vibrationbaby wins because James Lee gave up the fight. He started a war that he couldn`t finish. Just like Adolf Hitler he took the easy way out. Just because I made a comment about that obscure Canadian band RUSH Mr. Lee had to initiate this war and try and turn the people on this site against me. Well Mr. Lee You failed. I win. And Rush is outdated as the dinosaurs.     I  WIN! Canadian Military dont make me laugh! Bet canadian planes have the same reverse gearage as Italian tanks Stop swiggin the aviation fuel and give the puerile James-baiting a rest. Or even better,hibernate til Spring..   Wow! you sound like you couldn`t even be taught to ride a child`s bycicle, let alone a fast jet. We have some of the best pilots in the world I will let you know and despite the fact that over the past 40 yars or so we have been forced to fly American junk we have beat them at figher meets and have excelled in training methods. Don`t try and tell me about something you know nothing about and that I have experienced. And apologize to the Italian mebers on the site So far I have been the only reasonable poster on this thread.

Actually I rode Canadian Bicycles in the Tour De France and Tour of England, professionally when you were still rocking away on the Budgie The Helicopter ride at your local supermarket.

And I wrote a thesis on Canadian wit, which coincidently got me a citation from the Save The Rainforest Organisation.

this is hilarious!!! what the hell did james say to p*** vibrationbaby off so much? And why does vibe keep banging on about flying fighters? Was there something to do with mothers and army boots in there?

I've been MIA for a couple of weeks and want to know what the basis for this howlingly funny spat is, so I can get involved. It's a riot.

any offers, a brief precis will do:

james: cutting remark

vibe: hissy fit

james: more of same

vibe: apoplexy

so on.....

No disrespect to anyone in particular. This just seemed so apropriate to the discussion at hand.

Are you sure it was James? He doesn't seem to be a big Rush fan to me. Now Reed is a Rush muncher. Could this whole thing have been a mistake, a bad dream? Wouldn't GDUB be the man to swallow someone's pride?

I don't smoke weed, but someone needs a smooth spliff.

danbo wrote: Are you sure it was James? He doesn't seem to be a big Rush fan to me. Now Reed is a Rush muncher. Could this whole thing have been a mistake, a bad dream? Wouldn't GDUB be the man to swallow someone's pride? I don't smoke weed, but someone needs a smooth spliff.

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Hey Danbo congrats on the big 3000 !

Oh I remember that post, vibe sent it in huge letters for some reason. So that was it? That was the catalyst?

How disappointing.

I was expecting racist taunts, familial insults, perhaps slurs cast on each other's sexuality/spouses/ability to control a weapon of mass destruction/choice of footwear.

ah well....

gdub411 wrote: Great....try all those simulation exorcises in a real war. Everybody cringe in fear. Canada is going to attack!!

  That was uncalled for, Gdub.

Canada fought in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, both world wars, etc! (Canada liberated Holland in WW2.) Our soldiers are known to be very brave, and very good. Our peacekeepers are all over the world, and lay their lives on the line. Yes, your military is much bigger, and better funded,  BUT don't insult Canadian soldiers -- too many have died for other's freedom for you to be so dismissive of them. (I AM VERY SERIOUS.) Canada has always played a significant role  in furthering peace/overthrowing tyranny. Don't forget, that unlike the US, Canada was in WW2 from the beginning. I would like you to try that on with some vets at a Canadian Legion -- you'd get your ass kicked, & rightly so!

(PS: We also beat you guys in 1812, when the US invaded Canada.)

Could this really be a case of mistaken identity!?

The nearest I can find to a problem between Vibe and James is in the "Reviews that stand out thread" starting around page 8, but it's little more than a tiff.

I've searched the forum for any threads which have "Rush", "Vibrationbaby" and "James Lee" in them, but can't find the one which caused the probem.

No way I'm getting involved(!), but has anyone actually found the offending thread?

Peter wrote: gdub411 wrote: Great....try all those simulation exorcises in a real war. Everybody cringe in fear. Canada is going to attack!!   That was uncalled for, Gdub. Canada fought in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, both world wars, etc! (Canada liberated Holland in WW2.) Our soldiers are known to be very brave, and very good. Our peacekeepers are all over the world, and lay their lives on the line. Yes, your military is much bigger, and better funded,  BUT don't insult Canadian soldiers -- too many have died for other's freedom for you to be so dismissive of them. (I AM VERY SERIOUS.) Canada has always played a significant role  in furthering peace/overthrowing tyranny. Don't forget, that unlike the US, Canada was in WW2 from the beginning. I would like you to try that on with some vets at a Canadian Legion -- you'd get your ass kicked, & rightly so!

You are overreacting to a flippant remark made, quite obviously, in a pissing up the wall contest.

Now take deep breaths..................and chill!

You're just trying to scare him off coming to canada aren't you!

Reed Lover wrote: Peter wrote: gdub411 wrote: Great....try all those simulation exorcises in a real war. Everybody cringe in fear. Canada is going to attack!!   That was uncalled for, Gdub. Canada fought in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, both world wars, etc! (Canada liberated Holland in WW2.) Our soldiers are known to be very brave, and very good. Our peacekeepers are all over the world, and lay their lives on the line. Yes, your military is much bigger, and better funded,  BUT don't insult Canadian soldiers -- too many have died for other's freedom for you to be so dismissive of them. (I AM VERY SERIOUS.) Canada has always played a significant role  in furthering peace/overthrowing tyranny. Don't forget, that unlike the US, Canada was in WW2 from the beginning. I would like you to try that on with some vets at a Canadian Legion -- you'd get your ass kicked, & rightly so! You are overreacting to a flippant remark made, quite obviously, in a pissing up the wall contest. Now take deep breaths..................and chill!   You're just trying to scare him off coming to canada aren't you!

Oh course Canada was at war from the start. They were still part of the United Kingdom back in those days.

gdub411 wrote: Reed Lover wrote: Peter wrote: gdub411 wrote: Great....try all those simulation exorcises in a real war. Everybody cringe in fear. Canada is going to attack!!   That was uncalled for, Gdub. Canada fought in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, both world wars, etc! (Canada liberated Holland in WW2.) Our soldiers are known to be very brave, and very good. Our peacekeepers are all over the world, and lay their lives on the line. Yes, your military is much bigger, and better funded,  BUT don't insult Canadian soldiers -- too many have died for other's freedom for you to be so dismissive of them. (I AM VERY SERIOUS.) Canada has always played a significant role  in furthering peace/overthrowing tyranny. Don't forget, that unlike the US, Canada was in WW2 from the beginning. I would like you to try that on with some vets at a Canadian Legion -- you'd get your ass kicked, & rightly so! You are overreacting to a flippant remark made, quite obviously, in a pissing up the wall contest. Now take deep breaths..................and chill!   You're just trying to scare him off coming to canada aren't you! Oh course Canada was at war from the start. They were still part of the United Kingdom back in those days.

Sorry Reed, I never talke my freedom for granted, and I do take this subject VERY SERIOUSLY. If you (anyone) respect nothing else, you should respect those who have died, are dying, and will die for your freedom to live in peace.

Time for an apology or clarification from Mr. Gdub,  I think.

Peter wrote: gdub411 wrote: Reed Lover wrote: Peter wrote: gdub411 wrote: Great....try all those simulation exorcises in a real war. Everybody cringe in fear. Canada is going to attack!!   That was uncalled for, Gdub. Canada fought in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, both world wars, etc! (Canada liberated Holland in WW2.) Our soldiers are known to be very brave, and very good. Our peacekeepers are all over the world, and lay their lives on the line. Yes, your military is much bigger, and better funded,  BUT don't insult Canadian soldiers -- too many have died for other's freedom for you to be so dismissive of them. (I AM VERY SERIOUS.) Canada has always played a significant role  in furthering peace/overthrowing tyranny. Don't forget, that unlike the US, Canada was in WW2 from the beginning. I would like you to try that on with some vets at a Canadian Legion -- you'd get your ass kicked, & rightly so! You are overreacting to a flippant remark made, quite obviously, in a pissing up the wall contest. Now take deep breaths..................and chill!   You're just trying to scare him off coming to canada aren't you! Oh course Canada was at war from the start. They were still part of the United Kingdom back in those days. No, we weren't, and anyway, what would our political affiliation have to do with our citizens dying to preserve the freedom of people like you? (no insult intended) Sorry Reed, I never talke my freedom for granted, and I do take this subject VERY SERIOUSLY. If you (anyone) respect nothing else, you should respect those who have died, are dying, and will die for your freedom to live in peace.

Sorry, Peter,but who are you to say what is on or off limits?

I have made a couple of silly references to Pete-o-philes ie paedophiles,not a subject normally associated with humour, but you made no objection then.

We could scour the forum for off-the-cuff remarks and maybe start World War III.I thought that this was the real purpose of the VB v JL thread, I mean VB is not being totally serious is he?

We've skitted every possible taboo on this site and whilst Greg's thoughts are ill-considered to say the least (I'm referring to the Pantera thing, not Canadian military might), I've seen far worse.
One forum member took exception when I corrected his use of "queer" yesterday and genuinely appears to have no idea about his indiscretion.

Now come on...deep breaths...and stop taking offence for an entire nation or you'll end up like PixelPirate.

Yes, I get your point, Reed, but a little "no disrespect meant to Canadian soldiers" would be nice. There's humour, and then there is the ill-considered joke. ( We all say & write dumb things at times. I have been as guilty as any. I once made a joke about the Holocaust here, thought better of it, and removed it.)

There is no weakness in an apology.

Imagine having to qualify every joke like that:

"erm no disrespect to ladies with blonde hair but did you here the one about the blonde nurse, not that nurses dont do an essential job caring for sick people and going out into no-man's land to tend our dying soldiers..."

James Lee wrote:

well, you started it

Ive had my fun for one night, I'm off to beddy-byes.

Boy, you guys sure FUUCKED up the celebration of my 3000th post.

ASSHOLES.

BTW, I love Canada. Even the somewhat chunky chicks during my rowing days in St. Catherines and London, Ontario. I went to Canada on leave once and I never spent a dime. The people were very supportive and kept the beer flowing, while a very talented local band played Doors songs. An incredible night.  

Every American has to admit: The Candian side of the Niagra Falls is much better.  

Perhaps I over-reacted, and read too much into Gdub's "crack."  I'm sorry for that, but that is one of the subjects that I feel the strongest about. (Plus, I've just finished reading two appalling, sickening books about the Holocaust. There are 1000s of brave Canadians in European graves who died helping to defeat that evil, so yes, any disrespect (or seeming disrespect) towards those who serve freedom does provoke me.

Anyway, sorry if my strongly defending my country's brave servicemen and women has offended anyone....

Thus, wise would-be friends avoid politics....

Broke my own policy on that one.

Personally, I love Canada. Some of my friends from NYC even refer to me as Canadian because I was born upstate...I grew up looking across Lake Ontairo at Kingston (well, towards it, anyway...my eyesight's not that good) and spent some time in Halifax, both of which I consider to be some of the nicest cities I've visited. I'm not a big fan of Quebec, though; the country is beautiful but the people I met were relatively unpleasant. It's definitely not the place to try out your high school-level Francais, trust me.

I even looked into moving to Canada, a while back...let's see what the next four years have in store for us down here...

Reed Lover Now come on...deep breaths...and stop taking offence for an entire nation or you'll end up like PixelPirate. [/QUOTE wrote: !

!

Pixel Pirate wrote: But I am still in the dark about what you meant by that,Reed.

Look in the mirror next time you try to smile Pixie!

That must be all one sided then since I'm filled with nothing but peace and goodwill towards my chum Reedlover. How do you like that then,Reed? You will not bait me this time! 

Pixel Pirate wrote: That must be all one sided then since I'm filled with nothing but peace and goodwill towards my chum Reedlover. How do you like that then,Reed? You will not bait me this time!

You have learnt much Glasshopper!

Vibrationbaby wrote: James Lee wrote: Can we at least rename the thread "Pixel Pirate vs. Reed Lover"? Hey! Hey! I want to get back into the ring with any takers.

Looks like they are buddies again.

I love a happy ending!

Reed Lover wrote: Pixel Pirate wrote: That must be all one sided then since I'm filled with nothing but peace and goodwill towards my chum Reedlover. How do you like that then,Reed? You will not bait me this time!  You have learnt much Glasshopper!

Yes,master. I feel I have come a long way.