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Topic: ’We will be able to live to 1,000’
Posted By: M@X
Subject: ’We will be able to live to 1,000’
Date Posted: December 05 2004 at 08:08

Cool article : 'We will be able to live to 1,000'

[...] Ageing is a physical phenomenon happening to our bodies, so at some point in the future, as medicine becomes more and more powerful, we will inevitably be able to address ageing just as effectively as we address many diseases today.

I claim that we are close to that point because of the SENS (Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence) project to prevent and cure ageing.

It is not just an idea: it's a very detailed plan to repair all the types of molecular and cellular damage that happen to us over time.

And each method to do this is either already working in a preliminary form (in clinical trials) or is based on technologies that already exist and just need to be combined. [...]

Full article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

 



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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: December 05 2004 at 09:57
More time to collect CDs! 


Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 05 2004 at 10:06

I suggest that anyone who wants to be a thousand years old should have their head examined!



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 05 2004 at 14:30
Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

I suggest that anyone who wants to be a thousand years old should have their head examined!

Pixie you are officially

THE WORLD'S MOST MISERABLE MAN!

LOL



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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 05 2004 at 17:16
"Nah...sometimes I kinda want to die." - Carl, ATHF

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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: December 05 2004 at 22:11
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

I suggest that anyone who wants to be a thousand years old should have their head examined!

Pixie you are officially

THE WORLD'S MOST MISERABLE MAN!

LOL

Cool....what does he win?



Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: December 05 2004 at 22:14

Two words on this subject...Still Life!(Van der Graaf Generator for the uninitiated)

Actually it sounds appealing now but how about 40 years from now? I may grow weary of this life and be ready for that great leap into the black unknown.



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 06 2004 at 05:29
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Two words on this subject...Still Life!(Van der Graaf Generator for the uninitiated)

Actually it sounds appealing now but how about 40 years from now? I may grow weary of this life and be ready for that great leap into the black unknown.

Agreed!!

Citadel reverberates to a thousand voices, now dumb:
what have we become? What have we chosen to be?
Now, all history is reduced to the syllables of our name -
nothing can ever be the same now the Immortals are here.
At the time, it seemed a reasonable course
to harness all the force of life without the threat of death,
but soon we found
that boredom and inertia are not negative,
but all the law we know
and dead are Will and words like survival.
        
Arrival at immunity from all age, all fear and all end....
Why do I pretend? Our essence is distilled
and all familiar taste is now drained
and though purity is maintained it leaves us sterile,
living through the millions of years,
a laugh as close as any tear....
Living, if you claim that all that entails is
breathing, eating, defecating, screwing, drinking,
spewing, sleeping, sinking ever down and down
and ultimately passing away time
which no longer has any meaning.
        
Take away the threat of death
and all you're left with is a round of make-believe;
marshal every sullen breath
and though you're ultimately bored by endless ecstasy
that's still the ring by which you hope to be engaged
to marry the girl who will give you forever -
that's crazy, and plainly
it simply is not enough.
        
What is the dullest and bluntest of pains,
such that my eyes never close without feeling it there?
What abject despair demands an end to all things of infinity?
If we have gained, how do we now meet the cost?
What have we bargained, and what have we lost?
What have we relinquished, never even knowing it was there?
        
What chance now of holding fast the line,
defying death and time
when everything we had is gone?
Everything we laboured for and favoured more
than earthly things reveals the hollow ring
of false hope and of false deliverance.
        
But now the nuptial bed is made,
the dowry has been paid;
the toothless, haggard features of Eternity
now welcome me between the sheets
to couple with her withered body - my wife.
        
Hers forever,
hers forever,
hers forever
in still life.
        



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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 06 2004 at 06:06
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

I suggest that anyone who wants to be a thousand years old should have their head examined!

Pixie you are officially

THE WORLD'S MOST MISERABLE MAN!

LOL

That could very well be if it wasn't for the Velvet Menace who really is even gloomier than me. He hides it well behind a mask of humour,but that's the nature of a clown,isn't it?



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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 06 2004 at 07:18
Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

I suggest that anyone who wants to be a thousand years old should have their head examined!

It would give me enough time to listen to the Zappa back catalogue (only just though).



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 06 2004 at 07:26
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

I suggest that anyone who wants to be a thousand years old should have their head examined!

It would give me enough time to listen to the Zappa back catalogue (only just though).

But not enough time to listern to everything that Hawkwind had done. However, after listerning to the first the 500 years of worth of Hawkmusic you'd be praying for the reaper to come knocking..



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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 06 2004 at 08:10

Both Hawkwind and Zappa are mere amateurs when it comes to flooding the market with albums. Tangerine Dream rule supreme in this area. Over the last 12 to 18 months they have released more than 20 albums! Not kidding. Box sets,liverecordings,new studio albums,when do they ever sleep?



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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 06 2004 at 10:08
Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

Both Hawkwind and Zappa are mere amateurs when it comes to flooding the market with albums. Tangerine Dream rule supreme in this area. Over the last 12 to 18 months they have released more than 20 albums! Not kidding. Box sets,liverecordings,new studio albums,when do they ever sleep?

Oh my god!, Don't these guys have homes to go to?



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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill


Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 07 2004 at 04:04
I think they live in the recording studio.

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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 07 2004 at 04:08
AND: Edgar Froese also finds the time to make soloalbums. He released 4(!) last year and he also finds the time to do paintings and sculptures! I think we're dealing with some sort of superhuman here...

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 07 2004 at 05:33

Do you think they've ever had, like ..girlfriends or anything..??



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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 07 2004 at 06:25
Let's hear it for Tangerine Dream, the band that could teach Peter Gabriel a thing or two about productivity

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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill


Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: December 07 2004 at 08:31
Vangelis once said that he could easily release 4 albums a year but he doesn't want to flood the market and make people sick of him. Admirable sentiments perhaps but I suspect they fall on stony ground in the studio where TD are at this very moment putting the final touches on their new triple concept album,before Edgar Froese knocks out a couple of soloalbums during the afternoon and they get down to planning what album they're going to record tomorrow.

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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 07 2004 at 10:42

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

Vangelis once said that he could easily release 4 albums a year but he doesn't want to flood the market and make people sick of him. Admirable sentiments perhaps but I suspect they fall on stony ground in the studio where TD are at this very moment putting the final touches on their new triple concept album,before Edgar Froese knocks out a couple of soloalbums during the afternoon and they get down to planning what album they're going to record tomorrow.

Have whatever they're taking collected and sent to my room immediately.



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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 07 2004 at 16:07
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

Vangelis once said that he could easily release 4 albums a year but he doesn't want to flood the market and make people sick of him. Admirable sentiments perhaps but I suspect they fall on stony ground in the studio where TD are at this very moment putting the final touches on their new triple concept album,before Edgar Froese knocks out a couple of soloalbums during the afternoon and they get down to planning what album they're going to record tomorrow.

Have whatever they're taking collected and sent to my room immediately.

erm, a kind of musical Viagra I think. Its worth remembering that TD are over 500 years old, and such drugs could do damage to such young men as ourselves.



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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 17:18
If it comes to doing lots of music, I think it'd be hard to outdo Merzbow, he's done hundreds of albums, and one of them was 50 CDs long. Arguably it isn't music anyway, but still...


Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 20:24

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

If it comes to doing lots of music, I think it'd be hard to outdo Merzbow, he's done hundreds of albums, and one of them was 50 CDs long. Arguably it isn't music anyway, but still...

if it's not music what is it?



Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 20:25
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Actually it sounds appealing now but how about 40 years from now? I may grow weary of this life and be ready for that great leap into the black unknown.

Well when you get bored you can always kill yourself



Posted By: goose
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 06:00
Originally posted by Wizard/TRueStar Wizard/TRueStar wrote:

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

If it comes to doing lots of music, I think it'd be hard to outdo Merzbow, he's done hundreds of albums, and one of them was 50 CDs long. Arguably it isn't music anyway, but still...

if it's not music what is it?



noise. I mean that literally as well, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/Merzbow_Dharma .ogg is a short sample


Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 14:28

I wish I had not read this thread

All that's happened is I know now (although I've never not known) that it is possible to live beyond a normal lifespan of 120 years (maximum according to the bible), but the research won't be over untill I've died (probably even later ). So what good does this knowledge do.

It will be possible, but not for me



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Posted By: Arioch
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 14:31
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

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It will be possible, but not for me

why not?



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Duke of Chaos


Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 17:36

Actually, the average lifespan has begun to show signs of decreasing recently, breaking the general trend of the last milennium.

I personally consider time to be a lot like money...you tend to assume more is better, but it's what you do with it that counts.

I know that living for fifty more years while completely dependent on medication and technology to keep me alive would be a kind of hell. I've done hospice work; though rewarding, I couldn't imagine half the earth's population like that.

Would you sacrifice your sight (or hearing, in keeping with the music that brought us here) for an extra 100 years of life? I'd have serious problems living out my normal span if something so essential to my enjoyment of life were gone. 



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 17:44
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

Actually, the average lifespan has begun to show signs of decreasing recently, breaking the general trend of the last milennium.

I personally consider time to be a lot like money...you tend to assume more is better, but it's what you do with it that counts.

I know that living for fifty more years while completely dependent on medication and technology to keep me alive would be a kind of hell. I've done hospice work; though rewarding, I couldn't imagine half the earth's population like that.

Would you sacrifice your sight (or hearing, in keeping with the music that brought us here) for an extra 100 years of life? I'd have serious problems living out my normal span if something so essential to my enjoyment of life were gone. 

Wet blanket.



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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 17:53
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

 

 

I know that living for fifty more years while completely dependent on medication and technology to keep me alive would be a kind of hell.

You know James, that perfectly describes Cher!!!



Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 18:12
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

 

 

I know that living for fifty more years while completely dependent on medication and technology to keep me alive would be a kind of hell.

You know James, that perfectly describes Cher!!!

LOLLOLClap



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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 18:14

There's one sad and scary person in this picture. Who do you think it is?



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 13 2004 at 18:15
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

There's one sad and scary person in this picture. Who do you think it is?

The dwarf??

Theyre really scary in films.

Embarrassed

The sound of barrels being scraped echoes throughout the forum.Embarrassed



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 14 2004 at 19:45
This shall evermore be known as the pariah thread..............Embarrassed

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