Germany 2006: Holland's amazing line-up!
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Topic: Germany 2006: Holland's amazing line-up!
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Subject: Germany 2006: Holland's amazing line-up!
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 19:25
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Hello football fans.
Dutch football coach Marco Van Basten his definitive line-up for the friendly game against Cameroon next Saturday features an amazing line-up:
keeper:
- v/d Sar (Man United)
defence:
- Kromkamp (Liverpool, winner FA Cup)
- Ooijer (PSV, Dutch champion)
- Mathijsen (AZ)
- Van Bronckhorst (Barcelona, Spanish champion and winner Champions League)
midfield:
- Van Bommel (Barcelona, Spanish champion and winner Champions League)
- Cocu (PSV, Dutch champion)
- vd Vaart (Hamburger SV)
forward players:
- Van Persie (Arsenal)
- Van Nistelrooij (Man United)
- Robben (Chelsea, #1 Premier League)
If this line-up turns out to be the final line-up for our first World Cup game against Serbia (June 11th, 1500 AM) in Germany, we have to show the world that 'third time is lucky' (after the lost finals in 1974 and 1974)!
Personally I hope that Van Persie (who dare to blame Wenger that he should have used Bergkamp as a subsitue in the Champions League finale against Barcelona) will show his outstanding skills (watch his free kicks) and Van Der Vaart his incredible passing and shooting! |
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 19:31
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Two biggest problems I can see Erik are age and discipline. I hope they do well though,they play the beautiful game......Ruud Gullit called it "sexy football" |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 19:37
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I always go for Sweden nowadays. Don't know why really. Go Sweden! (are they in it?) -------------   
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 19:44
Yeh, their in it, their Englands third(?) game. Speaking of England, the team is looking pretty strong, except for the strikers (two crocks, a lanky guy who never scores and an unproven 17 year old  ).------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Geck0 wrote:Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 19:46
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You mean Peter Crouch? Is it: Owen Crouch Rooney The Unknown dude? Does Sweden have Ibrahimovic and Muslimovic? -------------
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 19:51
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Peter Crouch is the guy, but he doesnt scor that often that I'm aware of. Owen and Rooney are stillin doubt and I cant remember the name of the fourth guy. Havnt a clue who's in the Swedish team.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 19:55
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I don't follow football anymore, so I'm probably 5 years out of date!
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 19:56
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I sort of follow it, but I'm no fanboy.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 21:22
The Netherlands will crash out for sure. They always choke. 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 22:50
Ibrahimovic will be the starting Sweden`s forward for sure...
And returning to the topic, Yes, Holland has a great team!
Mexico will play against them next week, so let`s see !------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 23:58
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No, Downing was heard of, and is a midfielder.
The unknown dude is Theo Walcott, who's never even played a premiership match since moving to Arsenal. ------------- 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 04:30
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In my opinion Peter Crouch is very talented (he has a good technique for such a tall player) but can he handle the pressure? This season he has made important goals but also missed many chances. I hope Wayne Rooney will recover fromhis injury!
Ibrahimovic showed his great skills not only in the Dutch competion but also in Italy. The problem about him is that he is so inpredictable, he alternates between a weirdo and a genius
 ...About the sexy football, Tony R, you mean "wearing suspenders and a bra ..
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:00
No,Canada didnt qualify.....  |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:10
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Holland are like England and Spain. They sound good on paper but always underperform when the pressure's on. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:13
| I'm not sure that is necessarily true Bob. I think there have always been issues in the Dutch camp,persoanlities causing friction.The squad dynamic is very destructive. |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:14
It takes a very special team to lose one final twice. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10">
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:15
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Bad news;Rooney is out!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5019094.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5019094.stm |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:28
Out of the group games but he might play in the final.
Amazing isn't it that in the whole of England, there are only two decent strikers and both of them are injured.
I expect some defensive games for England, particularly with Erikkson still in charge.
Mind you, the defensive game might just win it - it worked for Greece anyway! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10">
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Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:28
Too bad  I hope he still won't be able to play the last 16 knockout game which will then be the end of the tournament for England having lost to Germany |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:31
Great optimism with the "but he might play in the final " Bob,but dont you think that England needs players of subtlety,such as Rooney, to progress anywhere near the final? |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:32
Yes,I cant see Germany being far awy but they hardly set the pulse racing with their football do they? |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:41
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Germany are the equivalent to Rush then... Rush don't send my pulse racing either. We're doomed, face it guys! -------------
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 06:47
Well, it's still so traumatic
 (we should have won easily) that I was a Freudian slip to write 2 times 1974 instead of 1974 and 1978 ..  ... |
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Posted: Today at 06:14Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 07:17
No, they dont. Not anymore at least  |
Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 08:31
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Aaron Lennon of England will be the star of the World Cup finals -- Remember where you heard it first -------------  |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 10:42
| He is that young guy from 17? |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 10:51
Is he the new Pele?  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10">
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 11:16
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He's the new Jordi Cruyff!
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 11:22
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After England's disastrous "warm up" last night it can only be a good omen for the World Cup. as for Rooney - one man does not a team make! -------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 11:23
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In England's case 11 men and substitutes does not a team make!
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Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 12:51
You're thinking of Theo Walcott -- Aaron Lennon is only 19 but is a nippy little winger who will give defences a headache if he plays -- he'll have to dislodge Beckham first though. ------------- |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 23:50
The way things are going by our side is making us sick! "High heels" (pretentiousness) never won a medal... 
I'd prefer Ronaldinho Gaúcho and 21 (or 22) unkown players that play here our real football instead of these masquerade "foreigners"...  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 04:39
I hope the referees will defend the technical players (like Messi, Ronaldinho, Brasilian and Portuguese Ronaldo, Rooney, Van Persie, Robben), otherwise it won't be a pleasant World Cup ...  .. at this moment I cannot trace many good refs ..
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 06:54
| Don't forget that, when England won in '66, our best forward then (Jimmy Greaves) was injured early and never got back in the team. Geoff Hurst was relatively unknown before the finals. |
Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 10:04
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Well, I'm looking forward to the upcoming World Cup for sure! The pressure's really on for our side, but I still can't stand the thought that our nation's pride, KJ Huntelaar has not been selected, but a player like Vennegoor of Hesselink IS! Ah well, let's just hope Van Nistelrooy is willing enough to prove to the world that he's still one of the best! And besides that, let's hope Brazil get knocked out early by some unknown teams... I like their skills, and the way they play, but come on! Let's have another winner for once!  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/manmadegod/?chartstyle=ScarlettJohansson1"> 
Focus on the music... Focus! |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 10:12
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For the case Brazil is out, I'd prefer to see a "new" champion like Czech Republic or Mexico (I think that both countries have tradition enough presently to get the prize)... ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 11:36
Mexico has no chance of winning, period.
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 12:14
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Since this thread started with a Dutch theme......why are the Dutch such a paradoxical nation? Such nice people, such a relaxed & grown up way of life, so friendly to visitors. They speak better English than us Brits and seem to have a good sense of proportion in discussion. Then give 'em a football, and all changes.......they have (arguably) the worst thugs in the game........on & off the field.........Bergkamp is probably the dirtiest player I've ever seen - so sly & with a "butter wouldn't melt in his mouth" look that he invariably gets away with it - except that there is plenty of tv footage to show what he's really like. "Spitter" Rijkard - nasty piece of work. Then that full back who, 10 years ago, nearly cut Denis Irwin in half playing for Feyenoord vs Man Utd - one of the worse tackles I've ever seen. Koeman - a man who would have been at home in the SS (offensive, yes; but did you ever see him play ? One of the most cynical of all time.) Sincerely, the Dutch are, alongside the Danes, probably the nicest people in Europe. But I can't wait to see what the current generation gets up to in Germany. And, for the record, England have no chance - with or without Rooney - it's both hilarious & cringeworthy to see the parade of old pros on tv saying that we should make the semis "at least". We'll be lucky to qualify from our group, since we'll lose to the Swedes (who are always strong & have a very consistent record in the big competitions) & have a lucky draw against at least one of the "minnows" in our group. My tip ? Italy or Spain - such good Spanish players, as always - they can't always be unlucky........ |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 13:02
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Crimson Thing, thanks for the mirror, now I know who we are .. by the way, this evening we play a friendly at home against Cameroon, the first test for our team that features great names but many young players lack experience.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 13:24
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Come on Sweden! Yes I am English, but I don't like our team. -------------
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 13:28
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 13:29
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Do you still have that stupid goalkeeper MW?
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 13:41
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Who?
Oswaldo Sanchez is our goalkeeper now, but he is really good!
So maybe you refer to Jorge Campos, a "short" guy who used to wear strange sport clothes?
He`s now a coach assistant ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 13:47
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Haha, yes, Jorge Campos! He used to run into the penalty box for free kicks, such a crazy guy!
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 13:52
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In an hour France and Mexico gonna have a match.. nice contest to see if Mexico is a competitive team or no ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 13:59
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Come on Mexico! France are annoying and overrated and boring to watch, even with Henry!
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 15:05
Would you rather be known as a sh*t country, with a gracious footy team?
Or, like us Brits, as a sh*t country with a sh*t footy team??
Really, it was a sincere compliment - and you surely don't see Bergkamp as an angel???
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 15:18
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I have visited many games when Dennis Bergkamp played for Ajax and I have enjoyed so many great moments but Dennis 'Non-Flying Dutchman' Bergkamp has also a dark side, he has commited some very mean foules during his period in London with Arsenal like kicking somebody when he was lying on the ground!
By the way, I am on my work, it's a few hundred meters from the Feijenoord Stadium in Rotterdam and I just heard a jubilous roar, indeed Holland leads with 1-0 against Cameroon halfway the first half, it was Van The man who scored
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 15:31
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Urgh, I cannot stand van Nistelrooy! I always liked Marc Overmars though. Great little player! As for Jordi Cruyff... useless comes to mind. -------------
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 15:40
| Ruud Van Nistelrooij is a real winner like Lothar Mattheus, they do everyting (positive and negative) to win so he dives, he provokes, he makes mean foules but he also makes many (important) goals so Man United and Holland fans tend to forgive him when he helps us to win important games! |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 15:42
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I just don't like him. It's because of the Manchester United connection I think. I don't like any Manchester United players! What you need is Gianfranco Zola! Unfortunately most teams need a Gianfranco Zola! -------------
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 27 2006 at 22:09
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France 1 Mexico 0
It was a boring match... so next stop
Thursday against the mentioned Holland ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 28 2006 at 04:27
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Dutch coach Marco Van Basten wanted to play against an African team (yesterday Cameroon) and a Latin-American team (as Memowakeman mentioned his country Mexico) in order to test our national team how to play against a physical strong team like Cameroon and a defensive (read: sneaky |
Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: May 28 2006 at 13:53
Well, I haven't seen the '74 matches in complete, but yesterday's first half was something to be positive about. Awful team though, Cameroon. It looked like they were getting paid to injure someone on Holland's side... Thank god they didn't. And everybody is talking about the fact that Holland might be lacking experience, but when you start with players like Van der Sar, Van Nistelrooy, Van Bommel... I think the cap average was about 25 yesterday, with only 3 or 4 players who have played 10 or less games for the national team. So that fact doesn't concern me a bit. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/manmadegod/?chartstyle=ScarlettJohansson1">
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 28 2006 at 14:14
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What's this "forchecking" thing ? Are we playing American Football all of a sudden ? (Or Rugby Union, with a ref who allows the Southern Hemisphere lot to get away with blocking ??)
Yeah, I know, they all do it - but we're supposed to pretend they're all saints (just like we're supposed to pretend we, the spectators, don't enjoy red cards
 ). I'm afraid that I've seen so many World Cups now that the idea of favouring one bunch of overpaid cynical cheats over another ceases to have much interest for me any more - even if one of the bunches of cheating thugs happens to share a similarly coloured passport to me.
May the slyest cheats win.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:25
Yea
Knew MExico wouldn't win!
Jus' Kiddin'
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 28 2006 at 19:02
You Flossy! so another kind post eh?
Any problem?
Well, i hope against Iran Mexico win, so when this happens, you could be less aggresive... ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 28 2006 at 19:35
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See you Thursday Memowakeman !
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 01:26
I quite agree! Well said that man! Yes, they're all overpaid, annoying, cheating footballers who just happen to wear different strips. But I still vote for Sweden. How patriotic of me! -------------
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 03:36
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 11:41
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Question everyone, whats the opening match of Germany 06? ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:00
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Not good for England, Rooney might not even play AT ALL. I think England would be smart to call up Andrew Johnson.
Anyways: Germany versus Costa Rica....
You know the result of that before it even began...
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:05
I wasnt expecting Rooney to be fit proper for the world cup after I heard he broke his foot, they dont heal in just four weeks. Luckaly the Midfield and defence is looking pretty strong. I think I'll skip the opening match, doesnt sound like a good one. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:09
I feel sorry for my favorite UK player Wayne Rooney, it seems that he is too much injured to play in Germany  ...
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:10
It would have been great to see how he would have dealt with teams like Brazil. Owen and Crouch should be an interesting partnership up front. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:14
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Owen and Crouch, great idea to post the smallest and the tallest in front |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:16
| Star of the coming World Championship : van Persie ! |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:23
He's already a star.
Yea... I wonder why they even brought up Peter Crouch, maybe for the usual English attacking combo!
(Heading the ball to striker) |
Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 13:23
| Strange thing is, though, that despite his height, Crouch ain't particularly good in the air; whereas the midget Owen is. Sadly, though, overall Owen's very overrated; his first touch is awful, like bouncing a powerball (remember them ?) on a concrete floor........our entire forward line is a joke, and I wouldn't be surprised if we fail to score a single goal in Germany - if the bookies are giving decent odds on that, I'd advise a mild flutter......... |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 13:27
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Watch out Tony because I am sure that Van Persie still hosts some bad habits when it doesn't work out as he likes, despite the good advises from Bergkamp and Van Basten. I won't be surprised if he does silly things again ... .. Let's hope I am wrong!
By the way, yesterday I spoke with a guy who has played with the youngster Van Persie in Excelsior Maassluis (near Rotterdam), Van Persie was a very introvert boy who only wants to play football and who trained every minute with the ball.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 29 2006 at 18:57
Not unless they put in Andrew Johnson in place of Rooney!
I was very surprised they didn't pick Bent at all, not even as a wait-list. He scored 18 goals this year for a rather hopeless Charlton team. He could be great for England.
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 05:03
Holland Under 21 has reached the semi-finals. OK, they were lucky but the Italians shuld be ashamed because of their awful defensive attitude  ..
Now it is France-Holland!
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 09:48
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Good news for the commentators........bad news for us armchair watchers with schoolboy humour............Van der Vaart is injured.....although not definitely out.......one of the joys of multinational competition is hearing what vocal gymnastics the John Motsons of this world go through in order to balance authentic pronunciation with not saying homophones of rude words......... |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 10:33
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I miss Jimmy Hill .. really!
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 11:47
I think he's still going on Sky, which I'm sure you can get in Holland........if you must.......personally, I avoid giving money to the Murdoch Empire whenever possible.......But there's a picture of one of our very own proggers on the Rogues Gallery thread that may suggest the influence of some Hill genes........need I name names ?!..........Clue: he's posted on this very thread not so long ago......
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 12:01
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Perhaps Sleeper ?
Anyway, In Holland we have Sky on the satellite, I don't want to pay extra for all those networks because we are mighty closing the USA looking at our 'TV watching habits' ..
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Posted By: bamba
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 12:17
Well Costa Rica have some very talented players like Paulo César Wanchope and they probably Complicate the game for Germany. ------------- Learning Flute [Amigo de Manticore y Memowakeman] (primo)[IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2187/2437702285_fbb450500d_o.jpg |
Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 13:49
I didn't mean sleeper (I don't know what he looks like
 )Think little chin beard.....begins with G............ends in o...........and I hope he has a sense of humour on this, as the resemblence ain't really that close otherwise.......
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 13:59
James (Geck0)!? What does Jimmy Hill look like anyway? ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 15:27
Make the score 2-0 instead of the 8-0 rout of Luxembourg!
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 15:30
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 15:55
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Well, about that penalty in the first half during the game England-Hungary: Drogba, Robben and Van Nistelrooij have taught the England players in the Premier League how to dive in order to force a penalty ..
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 16:01
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I just watched that Japan took a 2-0 lead against Germany, if Germany looses Beckenbauer and Bild Zeitung will slam 'Die Mannschaft': ....
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 16:08
Its just a friendly, plus they should start Kahn ahead of Lehmann
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 16:10
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I'm not sure Gerrard needs tuition in diving.......he does, after all, play for Liverpool...... Japan 2-0 up against Germany? Superb! Wonder if Klinsmann bothered to turn up, or did he stay at home in the US again? |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 16:17
Germany just scored 2 goals!
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 16:32
Typical!
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 17:33
Im very disappointed with that dive by Gerrard...the penalty save was justice served. Wonder goal by Hungary from outside the box was the only way they were going to score although Hargreave's closing down was non-existant. Joe Cole and David Beckham were England's best players and I still worried by Owen's lack of fitness. I'm still not convinced by Lampard as an England player yet.Maybe the World Cup proper will see him grow... |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 17:41
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Crimson thing: I do have a Jimmy Hill chin! Mr. Hill only had his beard in the '60s and '70s, he no longer has it!  He doesn't look anything like me! -------------
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 30 2006 at 18:18
You're right he's had a "Hollywood" for some time...
 Glad you weren't offended by the comparison........
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 03:18
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Good to see a picture from Jimmy Hill here !
Yes Tony R, Beckam and Cole were the best players and Crouch did also well as a sub. Remarkable was how many times the commentators mentioned the importance of Wayne Rooney ("he can create something out of nothing")!
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 04:06
Tony R is playing for England and not only that, a best player?!   -------------
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 11:46
Rooney's clearly taken the wrong career path.....shoulda been a nuclear (sorry, "nucular") scientist.......or a Paul Daniels impersonator..........or a politician........
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 15:31
Rooney is by far England's key player on this team, if he doesn't play, England will be screwed... But remember, England lost their best striker in 66
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Posted By: crimson thing
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 16:10
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King of Loss said: "But remember, England lost their best striker in 66" Funnily enough, there has been the odd TV programme (or ninety) in the past couple of weeks about the World Cup...........especially the '66 one...
And, to be precise, we didn't "lose" - Greaves (for I presume it is he whom you mean - ?) - he was briefly injured, then dropped (or at least not reinstated)
But I'm only hairsplitting, sorry.Nevertheless, do you genuinely believe England can win the World Cup, with or without Rooney? I have to say, I'm extremely sceptical........and, after Gerrard's blatant cheating against Hungary, and Ericksson's implicit condoning thereof, I have to say I shan't be supporting them.........
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 17:44
I dont know about wining the world cup, but weve got a good chance to get some distance this time. And yes, that was a terrable dive from gerrard, but I've seen much worse from others. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 17:48
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I just watched Italy against Switzerland, just another unsportive performance by Italy (after Juventus against Arsenal in the Champions league), what an awful fouls made by De Rossi and again Gattuso , that man belongs in prison!
What to expect from a team that is chased by the scandal about bribery of players and refs
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 17:50
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Oh man, i understand your point, anyway i like the Italian team , Gattuso? he could be a wrestler or maybe rugby player
BTW see you tomorrow Erik!  ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 18:20
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Yes, an interesting game, just watch Wesley Schnijder, he is a substitute for Raphael Van Der Vaart (ankle injury) but in my opinion he is one of the most talented youngsters, so dynamic, lots of pace and he can shoot , 3-1 is my prophecy!
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 19:48
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What team do you think will Win?
Right now, I've narrowed it down to 5 teams....
Brazil, England, France, Germany or the Czech Republic...
Even though the Germans are mighty weak this time.
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