What subgenre of Jazz do you prefer?
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Topic: What subgenre of Jazz do you prefer?
Posted By: Zitro
Subject: What subgenre of Jazz do you prefer?
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:29
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Hey, I'm interested to know what style of jazz prog fans prefer. As I'm a prog fan myself and I'm interested in Jazz lately, I would like to read the results.
First, you have early jazz with guys such as Louis Armstrong. Im fond of this style at all, but maybe you like it.
Then, you get the commercialized Danceable Big Band era. Some of the music is very mainstream, but on the other hand you have a great composer like Duke Ellington.
What about Bebop/Hard Bop? 100% improvisation and soloing.
Cool Jazz with Miles Davis and other geniuses to relax to, close your eyes and nod your head saying "yeah".
The fun Funk Jazz with hammond organ soloing all over the place?
The Jazz climax of Bebop with electric instruments and rock influences?
The beautifully sung and romantic magic of Brazilian Jazz with Bossa Nova elements?
South American Latin styles fused with Jazz Fusion?
The extremely diverse World Jazz that fuses music of many countries with Jazz?
The groovy jazz of acid Jazz, Rap Jazz, and JAzz using DJs?
The Jazz without limits and boundaries? Are you a fan of "A Love Supreme", Sun Ra, etc?
Last, but not least, the fun piano-based Boogie Woogie or the more complex piano stride where the pianist plays a bass line, rhythmic chords, and solos all at the same time.
Which is your favourite?
MY pick goes to Jazz Fusion, althrough Brazilian Jazz and Latin-Jazz Fusion (Al Dimeola) come very very close.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:38
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Havent heard too much, but Fusion, followed by avant.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:40
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Jazz-Rock/Fusion.
I also like Jazz-Funk like Mezzoforte and Steely Dan. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:53
| FUSION |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 14:38
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Don't forget "hot jazz" or "symphonic jazz", born in the '20s ( George Gerhwin - Rhapsody In Blue, Concerto Per Pianoforte E Orchestra) and the "swing" era (1935 - 1945)( Duke Ellington, Chick Webb, Cab Calloway, Earl Hines, Count Basie, Jimmie Lunceford, Louis Armstrong, Jimmy and Tommy Dorsey, Andy Kirk, Glenn Miller, Woody Herman, Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, Art Tatum. Anyway, i voted for Jazz-rock/Fusion. |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 16:14
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World Jazz, Acid Jazz, Jazz-rock, avant jazz, it's all excellent to me.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 16:34
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Where's Vocal Jazz? BTW: I won't vote - I love many of these styles equally.  My favorites in terms of playtime are intelligent Vocal Jazz and Jazz Fusion.------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 17:11
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I like Fusion, Free Jazz, Acid Jazz, and BeBop. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 22:00
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Oh, the swing era falls under "big Band Jazz" as it is mostly commercial and danceable except for some brilliant composers who did great music.
And yes, I forgot completely about vocalized jazz :(
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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 13:45
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i think this poll would have been more interesting if you had left out fusion
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 13:52
My favorite jazz subgenre (or era) is the Bigband and swing era. I don't care if most of the stuff is commercial. There's no dance music that I prefer to that kind of music. I even took some swing dancing lessons 
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Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: May 23 2006 at 13:42
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Be Bop, and Avant Garde ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 12:28
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Incomplete poll and should it be in the poll thread section?????????????????????????. What happened to the best selling jazz genres nowadays in Europe:
nu.fusion, e.g. Nils Petter Molvaer, Bugge Wesseltoft
nu.jazz, e.g. EST, Brad Mehldau
(and least we forget the retro jazz of Wynton Marsalis)
Glad somebody mention world jazz, which stands some sub-division e.g. Indo jazz fusion: Joe Harriott/John Meyer, Shakti, Shakti Revisited, Levi Shankar, Hellborg's outings especially on Icon, Trilok Gurtu, Oregon, Collin Walcott, Zakir Hussain, work of the Fatir Ali Khans with jazz musicians such as Jan Garbarek (e.g. Ragas & Sagas) etc.; then the Arabic-jazz fusion.................
What does Latin jazz cover: Nana Vasconcelos to Kip Hanrahan, taking in Sergio Mendes, Airto and Flora, Chick Corea??
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 12:42
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Jazz fusion is an ambiguous term covering a lot of important sub-genres: jazz rock fusion, jazz funk fusion, Indio-jazz fusion (the oldest established term for a sub-genre of jazz fusion), Arabic jazz fusion, flamenco jazz fusion, world jazz fusion (for that not covered by prefaces such as Indio or Arabic or Flamenco), smooth jazz, fuzac, nu.jazz, nu.fusion, jazz drum'n'bass, acid jazz, jazz jam, jazz hiphop, folk jazz fusion (check out Danny Thompson's solos and Pentangle - even Jan Garbarek/Agnes Buens Garnas on their Rosensfole), brass rock, (one coined by drummer Steve Smith) monk jazz (e.g. for Garbarek/Hilliard Ensemble's free jazz and plainsong), etc.
BTW Benny Goodman swang with the presence of Lionel Hampton and/or Gene Krupa in his quartets in the late 30's - check out the marvellous Carnegie Hall Concert of 1938, issued as a double CD set by Columbia Song
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Posted By: man@arms
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 14:25
| I can listen to all different kinds of jazz from Louis Armstrong and his Hot Fives from the 1920's to Dave Douglas today. I suppose the free jazz/avant garde period is my favorite if I had to pick. With the likes of Ornette Coleman, Albert Ayler, Cecil Taylor, Coltrane, Archie Shepp & Eric Dolphy who can go wrong? |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 15:03
Jazz Metal! Lay down your souls to the God rock'n'roll! 
-- Ivan ------------- sig |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 15:04
| Ther's not only Pat Metheny in World jazz subgenre. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 16:53
Marry me.
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man@arms wrote:Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 16:56
Indeed. He isn't even really a world jazz artist, not to me anyways. Oregon epitomize the world jazz fusion sound. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: tdreamer
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 16:56
Agreed he was the first Jazz artist I ever listened to and still my favourite. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 17:10
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Fusion all the way. -------------  |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 11:17
ever heard of Swing, Dixieland and other trad jazz? Cause they are missing in your list
you know Illinois Jacket, Memphis Slim, Ella Fitzgerrald, Bessie Smith Billie Holiday, Louis Armstrong
 ANYWAY,
Fusion for me  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 13:22
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I love Latin Jazz , Avant Garde, Jazz Fusion and World Jazz. If Funk Jazz is what Herbie Hancock play i like it to. I voted for Latin Jazz , because Latin Fusion is my favourite Jazz sub genre, but i like almost all subgenres. |
Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 13:25
| In wich genre would Piazzolla fall? |
Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 18:50
| I like Bebop a lot. |
Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 18:53
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oh, blimey I am more confused with this lot than I am all the "subs" of prog.........
er.........I like Jazz, you know, that stuff.........  I just don't understand all the classifications!
I do know I am not keen on trad jazz though! P-C |
Posted By: yeppp
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 04:04
| DOOM JAZZ/HORROR JAZZ -----> BOHREN DER CLUB OF GORE !!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 04:16
| Absolutely Be Bop/Hard Bop. The angular compositions of Bud Powell, Charlie Parker, and Thelonious Monk are directly related to the jerky compositions of groups like Gentle Giant, Frank Zappa, early Genesis, and modern groups like Don Caballero and Behold... The Arctopus. I love that stuff. |
Posted By: lordoflight
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 05:25
I recently discovered Bohren der Club of Gore. Great band though a litle repetitve at times. Do you know of any similar artists ?
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Posted By: yeppp
Date Posted: May 26 2006 at 07:44
| LORDOFLIGHT :Yeah well they like to keep their music minimal, and repetitation is one of the main points of their music ! I've been also looking for similar bands but i have found nothing similar ! they are too original !! |
Posted By: Jester
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 09:53
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Fusion Jazz!
The Mahavishnu Orchestra = My 2nd favorite band ever, and they are the ideal fusion jazz groub. McLaughlin, Hammer, Cobham, etc - all the lineups, even when they re-united in 75' - were astounding. One of the best bands ever.
Fusion also gave birth to two of my top 20 favorite records ever, not counting all the Mahavishnu records: "In A Silent Way" by Miles Davis and "Bitches Brew".
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 09:09
| Jazz Fusion |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 10:38
To many a European the Argentinan tango is latin jazz................ |
Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 23:09
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I've been on a bit of a free jazz binge lately, (particularly Coltrane), but I also love funk (like Tower of Power), Bebop (Monk's the man!), cool jazz (the DBQ), big band jazz (actually, I play trumpet in my high school big band), and of course, fusion. I voted for free jazz, but ask me again tommorrow. ------------- 
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Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 23:10
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I've been on a bit of a free jazz binge lately, (particularly Coltrane), but I also love funk (like Tower of Power), Bebop (Monk's the man!), cool jazz (the DBQ), big band jazz (actually, I play trumpet in my high school big band), and of course, fusion. I voted for free jazz, but ask me again tommorrow. -------------
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Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 09:35
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Free/Avant Jazz for me! Is anyone diggind Matthew Shipp, Charles Gayle or David Ware around these parts? ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 12:21
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Avant Garde/Free Jazz
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 22:57
| Oldschool jazz is very nice, but when I listen to jazz, it's fusion or free jazz I listen to. Check out the Belgian band Aka Moon. |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 22:15
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Early Jazz and Big Band!!!
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 22:16
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Tie between Avant Garde/Free Jazz and Jazz Fusion. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dream Theater
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 13:18
I prefer Latin Jazz...Chick Corea 
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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 08:57
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fusion ------------- [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/Genesis_Group.jpg" border"> |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 17:39
I like a lot of jazz, but my favourite genres from your list:
I'm also keen on the Esbjorn Svensson Trio, Arve Henrikssen, The Necks and some of Keith Jarrett. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: June 19 2006 at 01:05
I like fusion, and lots of other jazz. I even like some smooth jazz every now and then, at mellow, early morning times.  (Not sure of all the "categories," though.)
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Posted By: tytus
Date Posted: August 12 2006 at 08:54
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1920's Ellingtone's swingin' or Monk's early experiments knowledge is a fundamental thing if you're interested in classical jazz ;). There's a few 1920-1940 originally recorded albums accessible on torrents ;). Copyrights expired ;>. ECM recording studio albums are recommended ;). ------------- surrealistic weirdoistic http://www.ea.muzyka.pl/ http://www.ldf.muzyka.pl/ [IMG]http://www.exhume.ovh.org/pics/ea_small.jpg"> |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: August 12 2006 at 08:57
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Jazzrock, World jazz, world jazzrock... |
Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: August 13 2006 at 21:21
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cool jazz, ethio jazz, fusion,
but i think i like acid jazz/ jazz rap the most
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 13:03
| Those in the UK, look out in HMV's sale for a cheap copy of nu.fusionist's Nils Petter Molvaer's album Remakes - a remix album, which has contributions from modern jazz musicians Bill Laswell, Matthew Herbert, Bugge Wesseltoft, Martin Koller etc. I reckon a few here will have a real shock to the directions in which new jazz are heading - at least based on the limited choices offered up here on this thread. (Indeed check out Nils Petter Molvaer's original albums, e.g. Khymer, Live, NP3, etc. to discover the degree to which nu-fusion can be deconstructed and constructed afresh). |
Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 02:41
And me |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 02:48
| Fusion but I do like to listen to masters play as well. |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 15 2006 at 12:50
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Absoloutly no contest! Fusion is my choice of course. Followed by cool and funk. ------------- 
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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 18:00
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1. Avant Garde/Free Jazz. and some funky :) ------------- 
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: August 23 2006 at 05:34
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Dig 'em all! ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 07:48
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The result of this poll was highly predictible (as was the result of the Dire Straits poll) : prog-related jazz !!!
I like many jazz subgenres :
world jazz (Pat Meth, Jan Garbarek, Zakir Hussain, didier malherbe (ex-Gong BTW))
be-bop/hard-bop (john coltrane, wayne shorter)
latin jazz (the crusaders' 'chili con soul' album)
vocal jazz (sarah vaughan, billie holiday)
big band (buddy rich big band, 'big swing face' is a phenomenal live CD, and check out the tribute to the music of BR featuring the buddy rich big band + drummers like Bruford, Neil Peart, Morgenstein, Manu Katché...)
fusion (loose change (w/ virgil donati), allan holdsworth, dixie dregs...)
ragtime (scott joplin)
cool jazz (miles davis)
plus artists like earl hines, duke ellington...
Recently I was on holidays in Poland, and bought some polish jazz that I can recommend to you :
Wlodzimierz Nahorny (free jazz), Jan 'ptaszyn' wroblewski, jarek smietana, krzysztof komeda, zbigniew namyslowski, leszek mozdzer sextet, michal urbaniak's album 'decadence' (it's not really jazz, more experience stuff with an orchestra).
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 10:55
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Have to remind that terminology used wrt jazz-relayted musics here is at best sloppy and inconsistent. Fusion covers allsorts of jazz fused with other musics. Remember one of the first albums with fusion in its title and an early source of the term was with Joe Harriott & John Mayers Indo Jazz Fusion albums in the mid 60's, a marriage of then English style modern jazz (and Joe Harriott was West Indian who had been on the London scene for 20 years) and Indian raga.  Mention of Holdsworth and Dixie dregs then strictly the majority of their albums are jazz rock fusion. The only reference book and history on the subject of mixing rock with jazz is Stuart Nicholson's Jazz Rock: A History
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 10:58
| Jazz Fusion followed by avant/free jazz |
Posted By: Jay440
Date Posted: August 25 2006 at 02:02
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In no order of preference: BeBop/Hard Bop (McCoy Tyner's "Trident' album kicks serious ass!) Fusion (Mahavishnu, Tony Williams, etc.) Free Jazz. Exactly which Sub-Genre Pat Metheny falls into seems to be in question, but I really dig him. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 25 2006 at 12:15
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Pat Metheny:
jazz rock fusion:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B0000261LA/ref=dp_image_text_0/026-4545389-2034828?ie=UTF8">
 jazz post bop
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B000026E2O/ref=dp_image_text_0/026-4545389-2034828?ie=UTF8">
 world jazz
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B0000261UH/ref=dp_image_text_0/026-4545389-2034828?ie=UTF8">
 even pop (partly)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00000DQWT/ref=dp_image_0/002-7429755-2847263?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music">
 jazz serious music fusion
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000005IYU/ref=dp_image_0/002-7429755-2847263?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music">
 free jazz/avant:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B00000209E/ref=dp_image_text_0/026-4545389-2034828?ie=UTF8">
 http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B000A2FHCE/ref=dp_image_text_0/026-4545389-2034828?ie=UTF8">
 jazz fusion (less definable):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B000026255/ref=dp_image_text_0/026-4545389-2034828?ie=UTF8">
 Even had dance tableturners enjoy Imaginary Day, for its mixing possibilities
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 25 2006 at 12:17
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Some Indo-jazz fusion:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/X66JOUZGU6U4/ref=cm_lm_byauthor_title_full/026-4545389-2034828 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/X66JOUZGU6U4/ref=cm_lm_byauthor_title_full/026-4545389-2034828
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 20:46
| brazilian jazz like ZIL ,egberto gismonti,nana vasconcelos,flora purim ,hermeto pascoal.,wagner tiso ,Cesar Camargo Mariano,Tania Maria,Eliane Elias |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 21:57
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So many people voted for jazz fusion, probably because it is the only jazz genre that they are familiar with. A couple more things. The original poster said that bebop and hard bop are 100 percent improvisation. Actually, that's not true, since there is a main melody. The musicians all play the "head," or melody, through a couple of times and then they go into their solos, where the first instrument improvises stuff based on the chord changes of the head for as long as he wants before stopping and letting the next instrument play, and so on, until everyone that is soloing in the tune is done, at which point they play the head again, and the song is over. Also, despite its name, hard bop is very different from bebop.
Anyway, I vote for bebop/hard bop, since I love both.
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 21:58
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Fusion, followed by Coltrane. He's a genre himself, he's that awesome. ------------- 
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Posted By: B.B Hood
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 22:03
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Bossa Nova |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 28 2006 at 06:04
| Said it before, jazz fusion covers just under 50% of the other sub-genres listed. You mean jazz rock fusion to avoid ambiguity. One of the first groups/albums with 'fusion' in it name was the Joe Harriott/John Mayer Indo-jazz Fusion group of 1965- 8, who fused jazz and raga. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 16:12
| I'll revive this thread with a vote for, um, I don't know. What option is closest to smooth jazz? Ah other I guess. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 16:15
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Never seen this thread before so I'm clicking funk jazz under the understanding that it encompasses afrobeat. I spent a while looking for "canterbury" until I saw the last option :(
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 16:17
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I like at least some music from every one of those categories. But free / avant garde is probably what I listen to most frequently these days, followed by cool, bebop-hard bop and jazz-rock fusion. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |