The youth of today
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Topic: The youth of today
Posted By: chopper
Subject: The youth of today
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 07:05
| My wife and youngest son have just gone out, so I turned up the volume on my PC and listened to Tool's Vicarious at full volume. It sounded great for about 10 seconds, then my other son told me to turn it down as it was giving him a headache. How ironic is that? |
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 07:11
| Not ironic at all. My wife listens to her music on the main system in the living room; I listen to my prog either on my CD player or my iPod Shuffle. My oldest son likes songs I play from Porcupine Tree because it reminds him of the 'emo' music he's into, but I am beginning to wonder if they are really prog. My youngest son likes some of the tunes from Threshold, but are they really prog-metal or just some form of power-rock? Anyway, not ironic at all. I was a teenager in the early- to mid-1970s: Prog was, and continues to be, my life-blood... |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 07:45
Maybe it was really too loud.  ------------- 
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chopper wrote:Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 07:54
| My son plays Pantera flat out to p**s me off, I put Rush on in retaliation. We rapidly reach a truce. |
Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:11
Our son's started playing Led Zep at about a gazillion decibels in the time honoured "P*ss off the Parents" mode.......... they stopped when they realised we were proud instead of annoyed 
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:14
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Uriah Heep played in Moscow a couple of years ago. No wonder, most of the spectators were about 40 years old, but many came with their children. And these teenagers sung along with the band, they knew all songs' lyrics.
I think if you spend some time with your kids and tell them more about your favorite music, they probably won't ask you to turn it off. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:15
I quite like that generations later, Led Zep and Black Sabbath are still rebellion music. It could be a nice place to start to make a few comments about today's music..  
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:16
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My dad was the person that introduced me to prog, so he has no problem with what I listen to and vice versa.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:23
[QUOTE=prog4evr] My oldest son likes songs I play from Porcupine Tree because it reminds him of the 'emo' music he's into, but I am beginning to wonder if they are really prog.[QUOTE]
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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:29
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It's kind of the opposite at my house. I'm the one listening to prog, while my parents listen to stuff like Bruce Springsteen and some alternative rock. My dad used to be a prog head. I guess he's seen Pink Floyd 5 or 6 times.
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Posted By: MuzikLuva
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 09:55
| I grew up in a very musical family. Mom was a concert pianist and Dad had a real good voice. My mother always listened to and appreciated the music I listened to. Dad came around years later. Having been a teenager in the 60's, I listened to all types of different music. I prefer symphonic and psychodelic prog myself but appreciate and can listen to most anything that is musical. Pure noise always bothered me and my parents. |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:10
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Me too Chopper,on my own & have got Tool - 10,000 Days loud!!!!! ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:20
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I've told my father to turn the stereo down before now, but when I put something on, it's always louder than when he plays it!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:27
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to my wifes great consternation... my children love prog... and find
Italian prog very interesting. I couldn't tell you how proud I
was the other day when my son asked me to put 'that wierd music'
(Magma) on. That's my boy... a father couldn't be prouder of his
son hahahha. Not surprised though... as a toddler he was banging
out the intro to Yours Is No Disgrace on his toy drumset. Has
grown into a Bruford fan... maybe Christian Vander is up
next hahah
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:27
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Hey, just put on some Mahavishnu Orchestra and he'll be begging you to put Tool back on! ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:29
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Oh, today's youth... when will they learn? I am thinking of putting my future children to listen to Pink Floyd as long as they are born...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:34
I did with Yes... my oldest was digging TFTO through headphones before he even born hahahhah. I know I picked up my love of music through my parents and was bound and determined to pass that love on the my own. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:42
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:43
| My daughter is into Linkin Park and such, but she likes Riverside. I think I will wait with GG or Genesis. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:51
You're probably right - I suspected as much when the desk started to rattle. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:53
Genesis is one of the only prog groups that my wife likes... she loves (as I do) Tony's solo on The Cinema Show.... I need to put that one haven't listened to SEbtP in a long time..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 11:30
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My mother gets crazy every time I listen to music too loud  |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 11:33
hahahha .... gotta love us old farts.... we love loud music... music being the operative word ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 09:14
My father used to listen to a bunch of prog, but now he gets annoyed with it when I play it (good thing I'm leaving in a couple months). Southern/Country music dominates the CD player now. 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 09:28
if it ain't prog.... it could be worse. I love the Allman Brothers. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 17:26
Oh, the Allman Brothers are good, but I meant stuff like Brooks And Dunn, Sugarland, Montgomery Gentry, Brad Paisley and Toby Keith. I hear this junk and then look at all of his old vinyls (Yes, Floyd, Genesis, Rush, Tull [to name a few]) and wonder where he went wrong. I think it was my mom.
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 18:56
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Being a musical outcast in the youth of today, I can say this- in school, study halls are hard. Kids can't even make up there mind on what music they like anymore. True music lovers hate MTV, there aren't many true music lovers, but the ones that are have made everyone hate MTV. But the problem is, everyone just says they hate MTV, but since they no nothing about music they like whats catchy. Like this one really annoying kid listened too Amazing Grace, then goes and listens too Eminem. He finish's his HW, and goes sits with some of his friends, and listens too Green day. Then he walks over too me, and tries explaining that he likes Yes. My GF loves Emo bands and hates prog. But Don't Worry, I'll get her. My IPod broke, and the girl who sits next to me, for an hour and a half plays "Seasons of Love" from Rent on repeat. So thats all I hear. However, when I did have my IPod, war between me and her broke out. No matter how quiet she turned her headphones, I could hear her music. I'll tell you, "Five hundred, twenty five thousand, six hundred minutes!" Get's annoying fast. So insted of showing her the great side of prog, I decide too play a more heavy song too have the largest contrast in the music at our table. Once I was listening too "The Creator has a Mastertape" off of Porcupine Tree's In absentia, at full volume. Was this enough? No! Outbreaks some Modanna hit. Well, what do I have too counter that? Oh, plenty. But it's a dance song, right? So how about something too dance too? Oh, well, thats easy, but Prog dance? Now THAT is difficult. BAM! Outpoors the Collection of Great Dance Songs, the Pink Floyd compilation. So what do I play? What else? One of these days. So now this girl gets the impression I only like darker music, so she puts on My Chemical Romance too show me "Good" heavy music. So, in order too keep the contrast I decide too play "The Colony of Slippermen" off of "The Lamb Lies Down on broadway." This sort of war rages every study hall. (She particularly hates Cyngus... Vismund Cyngus off of The Mar's Volta's latest album Frances the mute.) I'm hated for liking the music I do, but they'll all see one day. They'll all see things my way. Let's just leave it at that, shall we? ------------- www.myspace.com/hail_peter 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 23:18
OUCH. I guess that leaves me lucky that I don't have a girlfriend who hates prog (or one at all) but I can feel your pain about a lot of the kids today liking total sh*t. I send my friend every DT album I have, and he says they're awesome, then tries to send me Relient K (Christian punk....emo? I don't get it) Its not sufferingly terrible but its just so bland that I can't stand it. Point is, I think that people don't really listen to music for its artistic value these days, they listen to it for social reasons, or because they find it catchy and "relatable" ------------- 
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 23:25
Actually that's not too surprising; emo is very dark and heavy, and In Abstentia is obsessively dark and it's fairly heavy. If you're doubting them, listen to The Sky Moves Sideways; that could never, ever be construed as even being close to emo.
Most people at my school have horrible taste in music, but it doesn't bother me to much; I don't have to listen to it or anything. There is this one guy I know who's a totla prog nut though; he likes VdGG! ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 03:25
So true, if not for the exposure, how will you ever know. We know they don't play this stuff on the radio anymore. I grew up listening to classical music as my mother was a opera singer. Prog Rock was a perfect fit after that.
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 03:47
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the other day i put on Siberian Khatru, Roudabout and Yours Is No Disgrace in class that i had and most of my classmates liked it they said it rocked 
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 13:06
there's a real turn up, chopper! but these kids must understand you can't beat a good ol' blast to set you up for the day, can you??-------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 14:38
I'm not alone then!!  ------------- http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/contentChapterView.asp?chapter=309" rel="nofollow - Humanism |
Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 14:51
Yeah, my cousin tried to get me too listen too Relient K. The thing you mentiond that always kills me is the people who listen too something because it's "relatable." I mean honestly, relatable? There related too the same emotion every song, and the emotion is presented THE SAME WAY EACH FRICKIN' SONG!!! How much of pretty much the same song can a person take? Also, every song at some point conveys an emotion, and them being human have felt the emotion, so if there only point is that they "relate" to it, then they'd like every song. Is it the same with you? ------------- www.myspace.com/hail_peter
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: May 23 2006 at 12:56
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One moment from my family life(I am eighteen):
Dad: Son, you have to hear this song, it's my favourite and it is also the heaviest song ever. Seriously! *turns on Deep Purple*
Me:
 But yeah, obviously my parents are scared and close every possible door in the house whenever complicated bizarre avant-garde/metal/electronic music starts played by me.
-- Ivan
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 23 2006 at 16:55
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Lot's of kids love prog without even realizing what theyre listening to. I've been listenenig to Pink Floyd, Kansas, ELO, and Styx since I was 12, long before I'd ever heard the word progressive. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |