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Topic: OMG! Anyone who has 10,000 days, read this !!!!!
Posted By: Zitro
Subject: OMG! Anyone who has 10,000 days, read this !!!!!
Date Posted: May 14 2006 at 23:52
Do you remember that Tool did weird stuff like use the fibonacci sequence on the syllables of the verses in Lateralus? This is even crazier and cooler, and you have to follow a couple of steps to get it.
 
The mystery of the filler "Vigniti tres" and the two "Wing" parts being a bit similar to each other now make sense, as well as the cover of the album. If you play Wings pt1+Vigniti Tres at the same time as Wings pt 2, you realize that the 2 songs are equal in length to Wings pt2 ... That means that they are meant to be synchronized! The frickin' band synchronized 3 songs!!!! The cover of the album has two faces looking sideways and one big face looking towards you. MAybe the two faces are the 2 smaller songs and the bigger face is the long song ... combined result in one big head.
 
Just check it out ... the combination is incredibly well done. I am breathless!!! The sync with vigniti tres with the second half of wings pt2 is probably the coolest part, but the first half is really cool too with different riffs in syncs, talk and response of voices, complicated drumming, etc.
 
The problem is to do it right. The method I use is very hard. I put my headphones in first. I put my Tool disc on the computer, and use windows media player on just track 4 (wings pt2), then transform tracks 3 and 11 into mp3 files in your disc (downloading it may not work since the tracks may vary in length, unless you use something like torrent, stick with mp3 transformation since it's legal though). Ok, now that you have the mp3s ... click play on those two files using winamp.
 
Now, here comes the tricky part. Press play on the winamp file then pause it. Now, move the winamp windows in a way so that it's very close to the play button of window media player. Now get the time bar of winamp to the far left (the beginning of the wings pt1) and press play, immediately pressing play on the windows media player one. There will be like a 1/10 second difference and is not very noticeable at all.
 
Maybe there's another way ... if you have two CD drives, maybe you could burn your 10,000 days CD twice (one with wings pt2 and one with the other two songs)  play the two at the same time and you won't have to do any tricky stuff.
 
Good luck, and enjoy this trip!Tongue



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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: May 14 2006 at 23:56
Wow that sounds extremely cool Big smile

Viginti Tres really sounds like Wings Three when you think about it Tongue


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:02
I'll try to do it!!!Big smile

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:03
Im gonnna try to do it right now! That would also go along w/ the stereoscopic theme of two combined to make one greater one.....

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:06
That's f**king incredible, the times add up perfectly, up to a second... gonna try it now.

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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:12
everything in vigniti tres makes sense! The suddently heavy white noise comes when wings pt2 gets heavy at minute 9 ... the voice is followed by distorted guitars .. the electric charge thing going through your head mixes perfectly with the mellow ending of wings pt2. This "10,000 of vigniti" is like the best "dark" song done ... ever!! IT blows away everything the band did.
 
Also, I found an easier way! (since I've heard it 6 times now, Im trying easier ways). Minimize the upper part of winamp window. That way, you can put the play 1-2 cms away from the play button of window media player. Also, forget about that play and pause stuff I said earlier.


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:25
I got it easy cuz Im using a recording program called "Audacity". Its free, just google it. You can import mp3 files and such.

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:29
I wonder if any other pairs of songs, presumably with alleged "filler", combined synchronize...

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:30
I can load the leaked version into iTunes and then maybe I'll be able to play the tracks in WinAMP as well...


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:34
Jesus christ I'm gonna have nightmares now.....

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:39
One thing though: Why did they have vocals over each other when the two Wings parts are synced?

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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:45
oh... The Miracle ... Now you got me thinking of doing something: listen/read the lyrics and see if they match.
 
OMG, Im hypnotized, pinch me. It's like the 9th time I heard it in a row. LOL Now I could say in a straight face that this is the best song I've ever heard.
 
Ok, Im going to sleep after the 9th time finishes.
 
 
 


Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:49
Oh my god.

Yes.


Posted By: CaptainWafflos
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:53
Maybe I'm the only one, but this doesn't seem synced at all to me. I initially thought I heard it all falling together once it reached the 7 minute mark, but then I realized that was just because Vigniti Tres doesn't really have any musical content whatsoever.


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:57
Wicked cool.

It definitely makes sense.


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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 00:59

Um, for me it's perfectly synced (the rhythms fall in place in all the whole song for example) ... maybe something happened and you were off for one second in the wings pt1 + pt2 combination.



Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:04
Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:06
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

I could do it... but not tonight... too lazy, you see... send me a message tomorrow and I'll do it.Wink


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:07
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

I could do it... but not tonight... too lazy, you see... send me a message tomorrow and I'll do it.Wink


OkBig smile


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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:10
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

I could do it... but not tonight... too lazy, you see... send me a message tomorrow and I'll do it.Wink


OkBig smile

Yeah, I've made a bunch of recordings... such as a single file recording of Garden of Dreams (clocking in at a little over an hour), a 1 single file recording of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (a little over 42 minutes), single file versions of The ConstrucKtion of Light and Larks Tongue in Aspic Part IV, and a 21:12 live version of 2112 (from the Different Stages album).Wink


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Posted By: skyhawk
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:13
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

I could do it... but not tonight... too lazy, you see... send me a message tomorrow and I'll do it.Wink


OkBig smile

Yeah, I've made a bunch of recordings... such as a single file recording of Garden of Dreams (clocking in at a little over an hour), a 1 single file recording of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (a little over 42 minutes), single file versions of The ConstrucKtion of Light and Larks Tongue in Aspic Part IV, and a 21:12 live version of 2112 (from the Different Stages album).Wink
Are you going to post the result of the Wings synchronization on here?


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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:15
Originally posted by skyhawk skyhawk wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

I could do it... but not tonight... too lazy, you see... send me a message tomorrow and I'll do it.Wink


OkBig smile

Yeah, I've made a bunch of recordings... such as a single file recording of Garden of Dreams (clocking in at a little over an hour), a 1 single file recording of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (a little over 42 minutes), single file versions of The ConstrucKtion of Light and Larks Tongue in Aspic Part IV, and a 21:12 live version of 2112 (from the Different Stages album).Wink
Are you going to post the result of the Wings synchronization on here?

I'll see what I can do, but I will do my best.


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:15
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

I could do it... but not tonight... too lazy, you see... send me a message tomorrow and I'll do it.Wink


OkBig smile

Yeah, I've made a bunch of recordings... such as a single file recording of Garden of Dreams (clocking in at a little over an hour), a 1 single file recording of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (a little over 42 minutes), single file versions of The ConstrucKtion of Light and Larks Tongue in Aspic Part IV, and a 21:12 live version of 2112 (from the Different Stages album).Wink


They shouldn't have divided them on the CD in the first placeDisapprove

Is the live version really 21:12 long?Confused


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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:17
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

I could do it... but not tonight... too lazy, you see... send me a message tomorrow and I'll do it.Wink


OkBig smile

Yeah, I've made a bunch of recordings... such as a single file recording of Garden of Dreams (clocking in at a little over an hour), a 1 single file recording of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (a little over 42 minutes), single file versions of The ConstrucKtion of Light and Larks Tongue in Aspic Part IV, and a 21:12 live version of 2112 (from the Different Stages album).Wink


They shouldn't have divided them on the CD in the first placeDisapprove

Is the live version really 21:12 long?Confused

It's the only full live version of 2112 available, but I cut out about 15 seconds of crowd fade out (because at the 21:12 mark it is essentially silent) because it would be cooler to have a 21:12 version of 2112.Wink


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:19
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink

I could do it... but not tonight... too lazy, you see... send me a message tomorrow and I'll do it.Wink


OkBig smile

Yeah, I've made a bunch of recordings... such as a single file recording of Garden of Dreams (clocking in at a little over an hour), a 1 single file recording of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (a little over 42 minutes), single file versions of The ConstrucKtion of Light and Larks Tongue in Aspic Part IV, and a 21:12 live version of 2112 (from the Different Stages album).Wink


They shouldn't have divided them on the CD in the first placeDisapprove

Is the live version really 21:12 long?Confused

It's the only full live version of 2112 available, but I cut out about 15 seconds of crowd fade out (because at the 21:12 mark it is essentially silent) because it would be cooler to have a 21:12 version of 2112.Wink


That's very Cool


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Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 01:22
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink
I could do it using Audacity, but I won't be home for 12 hours. If it hasn't been posted by that time, maybe I could do it


Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 02:05
Man thats cool. I had a feeling that the songs were linked in a way, but I didn't even stop to think that they could be overlapped. I just used Audacity to overlap them and I can't stop wondering at this. Damn thats so wicked. How did you figure that out Zitro?

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 02:10
Originally posted by lastdodobird lastdodobird wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Anyone technically prolific wants to make it into a single file?Wink
I could do it using Audacity, but I won't be home for 12 hours. If it hasn't been posted by that time, maybe I could do it


Cyg said he'll do it...Tongue


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Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 02:20
I have already done it if anybody wants it somehow


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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 03:58
Can't someone combine the songs in a mix programma alike cool edit prog or cubase??? and then post it?Embarrassed

edit: oops.. should have read the few posts above this one Embarrassed

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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 06:43
OMG !!!  WOW I better Rush out and buy three copies of 10,000 days just so I can do it !  Thats where people like you and myself differ I couldn`t give a flying f..k if it revealed the winning numbers to next lottery draw I still aint listening to no dumb a$$ tool CD and thats final !!  Approve 


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 06:50
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

OMG !!!  WOW I better Rush out and buy three copies of 10,000 days just so I can do it !  Thats where people like you and myself differ I couldn`t give a flying f..k if it revealed the winning numbers to next lottery draw I still aint listening to no dumb a$$ tool CD and thats final !!  Approve 
Was there any point in posting this sarcasm.
 
OK, since I'm useless with PC's I'll wait for someone to do some trickery and get it all onto one track and post it here. I'm interested to see how this works.
 
 


Posted By: ProgBoy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 06:53
I've done a synchronization using Cubase SX if anyone wants me to somehow send it to them. I'll be happy to, even though I have revision to do.Ermm

I don't think it's that good though...


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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 06:54
If this is the best they could come up with for a mediocre album.....


Actually, it's not all that hard to conceive.

1.  Write a song and add some spacey filler tracks.
2.  Excise spacey filler tracks and split in half.
3.  Make spacey filler tracks separate tracks on album.
4.  Make people think you are a genius for doing a simple cut/paste job on your album.

Guys, this is nothing to really marvel at.  In planning, it probably took next to no effort to do this.


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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 07:03
And because it wasn't hard to do it makes it less fun?


Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 07:47
As usual, im late for this discussion... ill try to do it now....Cry

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Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 08:59
uhh i havent bought that album, tomorrow i will, first thing in the morning!!! which song do you recommend to hear first?? hehehe...

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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 09:55
To reply to the person telling me how I figured it out, I didn't. A guy started posting everywhere about this secret (with copy/paste) and I read it. Check "ratemymusic"
 
 


Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 09:57
Fits perfectly!!!!Clap
How prog is that????!!!!!!Clap


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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 10:01
Will it be legal if I record the two parts playing together under one audio file and upload it for easy listening for the archive members? Seems easier that way, plus, who hasn't bought the album yet?
 
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Posted By: dltonya
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 10:05
I've remastered about 750+ live recordings in Cool Edit Pro over the last 10 years so this was an easy enough task to accomplish.  I synchronized the audio on the drum beats just to make the timing more accurate.  It's a neat affect, however because of the nature of Viginti Tres you could probably accomplish that affect with a lot of songs.  So take this with a grain of salt. 


Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 11:46
Any posts relating to file sharing will be deleted.


Posted By: lastdodobird
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 11:53
I tried it out and although the effect is pretty cool, it wasn't as awesome as the post seemed to describe it.

It's a neat fit, not perfect though, and I agree that with the nature of Viginti Tres, it would be relatively easy to sync song with that.

Having said that, are there other pieces of music that, when overlapped, create a cool effect? Tongue


Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 12:03
i like when people DISCOVER stuff!
Good job Big smile


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 13:14

I am going to try this when I get home. Sounds incredible.

Do you think there is any significance in the title of Viginti Tres? All that I know is that it's latin for twenty three.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 15:03
Originally posted by HeirToRuin HeirToRuin wrote:

If this is the best they could come up with for a mediocre album.....


Actually, it's not all that hard to conceive.

1.  Write a song and add some spacey filler tracks.
2.  Excise spacey filler tracks and split in half.
3.  Make spacey filler tracks separate tracks on album.
4.  Make people think you are a genius for doing a simple cut/paste job on your album.

Guys, this is nothing to really marvel at.  In planning, it probably took next to no effort to do this.
 
 
 
ClapClapClap I Totally Agree 100%


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 15:24
^ you two don't have a clue, do you? That's not at all what's supposed to be happening here.

BTW: I tried it - I must say that I'm not overwhelmed - and I'm not sure if Tool planned it that way. About halfway through Wings Pt. 1 there is a major/minor discrepancy that they would have avoided if this was intentional.

No, I rather think that these tracks fit together because they are similar (and the same tempo), that's all. Admittedly the end (the last two minutes) sound cool with Viginti Tres "growling" in the background.


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 15:47
While not being anything groundbreaking or amazing, the synch up is admittedly pretty cool and definitely intentional, esp w/ the vocals call and answer. Also, try synching up every song at once with Audacity. Nothing happens, but im sure it sounds freakin hilarious.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 15:50
Why not play all the songs of the album simultaneously ... I'm sure there'll be even more call and answer. ;-)

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 16:06
Omg I did actually put every song simultaneously playing. It is sooo funny. Sounds like f***ed up deathmetal or something...I'm gonna use it as my sisters alarm in the morning *without her knowing of course....Wink*

Point is, its a cool little idea. Nothing to make or break the album, just another little thing for the fans. I do actually like finding "hidden stuff" in the albums though.....*again w/ the no life thing*


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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 16:22
Yes, because Death Metal is basically a couple of guys putting a few Tool songs together. Wink
 
Actually, that sounds like a good idea. I should experiment with recording two different songs play at the same time and see what results I may achieve. LOL Actually, I think I have better things to do now. Tongue
 
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:19

is Zitro having you on?? i don't have any tool albums so i can't try it but i remember something like this with the run-out groove on the sgt.pepper album, if you played it backwards you heard a secret message or something, though i never got it and the beatles denied it was there. also some time ago there was a thing going round the internet about speakers, if you placed 3 coins on top of each speaker in a triangle, 2 at the back and one at the front, it made a "big improvement". i almost fell out with some friends over this as they tried it and were convinced it really improved the sound, though i really couldn't hear any difference. we argued long into the night!! a born skeptic, i felt like the  little boy in the song about the "king's new clothes".LOL



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:27
I had some fun listening to the combined songs ... didn't take much of my precious time. But indeed I think he's having us on!LOL

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Posted By: Oxygen Waster
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:52
THIS RULES!!!!!!!


Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 17:58
I can't say I've tried it, but I can tell it will be a waste of time. Viginti Tres is a completely useless track, what a dumb reason to include it.

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Posted By: Syntharachnid
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 18:48
OK, now I HAVE to buy it!  Can anyone tell me whether or not it's a good place to start with Tool?

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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:02
Whether this is a load of old guff or not,I have absolutely no idea why someone would use this thread just to denigrate Tool and their fans.

If you cant write anything constructive dont bother writing anything.

You know who you are...Stern Smile


This isnt a Tool appreciation thread,so butt out!


I also reiterate what Easy says about file-sharing. Keep it off the forum,what you do in private is not our concern.


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:02
I just realized my calling in life....to put EVERY SONG ON MY ITUNES INTO ONE TRACK PLAYING SIMULTANEOUSLY! It'll be the biggest file EVER!

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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:04
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

I just realized my calling in life....to put EVERY SONG ON MY ITUNES INTO ONE TRACK PLAYING SIMULTANEOUSLY! It'll be the biggest file EVER!


You need to go and lie down? LOL


Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:11
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

I just realized my calling in life....to put EVERY SONG ON MY ITUNES INTO ONE TRACK PLAYING SIMULTANEOUSLY! It'll be the biggest file EVER!


Actually it wouldn't be any bigger than the longest song. Embarrassed



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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:13
No i know lengthwise it wouldn't be longer than the longest song, but i meant there'd be so much sh*t going on that the comp would freeze.

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Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:26
If you mixed down 10000 mp3s into one mp3 - it isn't going to be any bigger in bytes than the longest mp3. It dosn't matter how much is "happening" its all about the bitrate of the song. There is only a certain amount of bytes per second being processed regardless of what is "happening". Everything on the same frequency would just cancel out and you're left with one solid block of noise.
Geek


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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:33
Now, I'm just trying this:
 
I notcied there is the same segment of music (the very brief heavy segment with triplets, if that makes sense) in each part of Wings, and they both occur about two minutes before the end of both tracks. So I'm thinking the sync actualyl starts with Viginti Tres, and ends with Wings Pt. 1. I'm about 3 minutes into it right now, and I think it's much better than the original suggestion.
 
Edit: After listening to this once through, I think it works. The heavy part and the vocal melodies toward the end sync. I don't think on my first time I got it perfectly, but it made enough sense to me. Try it out!


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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:35
There are nearly 30 "Guests" reading this topic!

If you are interested in Tool or want to know more about Prog,why not join us?


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Posted By: Space Chief
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:43
I wonder if this can possibly top the guy randomly screaming "TIMMY!" on "Right in Two".

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:47
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

There are nearly 30 "Guests" reading this topic!

If you are interested in Tool or want to know more about Prog,why not join us?


Just hit the    registration_rules.asp?FID=0">RegisterRegister buttonApprove


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 19:50
Originally posted by Hierophant Hierophant wrote:

If you mixed down 10000 mp3s into one mp3 - it isn't going to be any bigger in bytes than the longest mp3. It dosn't matter how much is "happening" its all about the bitrate of the song. There is only a certain amount of bytes per second being processed regardless of what is "happening". Everything on the same frequency would just cancel out and you're left with one solid block of noise.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 20:23
As if the reviews didn't made me want to buy the cd, now It has a big secret behind the fillers to make things better! Friday will be the day I'll buy the album. I can't control the hype of other people. It's contagious! Wacko Pinch

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 20:30
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

As if the reviews didn't made me want to buy the cd, now It has a big secret behind the fillers to make things better! Friday will be the day I'll buy the album. I can't control the hype of other people. It's contagious! Wacko Pinch


Ha! Don't worry. The little "synch" thing is not even close to the best part of the album. And don't be put off, it's definitely a grower. "Rosetta Stoned" for all its weirdness is a good, wellrounded track, Right in Two is good societal commentary *and good music*, and Vicarious is just plain good. Plus, I still can't calculate what the hell Jambi is in!


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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 21:18

It seems like the song was intended to be synchronized in either order of the 2 songs ... but it may fit better with the virgini Tres put first. So, the song sounds even better now!

Yeah ... It seems like I gave Tool a few dozen bucks with this little thread lol. Definitively get this album. I am not a tool fanboy at all, I am just impressed at the artistic beauty it holds.


Posted By: Petary791
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 21:35
*goes in Audacity and starts editing*

I'll get back to you guys.


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Posted By: Petary791
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:08
Holy crap, I got it as one track, and wow this is sick.  I wish I could upload it online for everyone to have but I think it's illegal.

If you want info on how to make it, hit me up on AIM.


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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:10
All very interesting. But I can't help wondering why Tool would bother to separate the three tracks when they could have simply combined them in production.!!! I think the 3 tracks are mean't to be separate, period. However, there is nothing wrong in adding to the hype around a great album - cheers! 

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Posted By: Mad Bass Player
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:11
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Now, I'm just trying this:
 
I notcied there is the same segment of music (the very brief heavy segment with triplets, if that makes sense) in each part of Wings, and they both occur about two minutes before the end of both tracks. So I'm thinking the sync actualyl starts with Viginti Tres, and ends with Wings Pt. 1. I'm about 3 minutes into it right now, and I think it's much better than the original suggestion.
 
Edit: After listening to this once through, I think it works. The heavy part and the vocal melodies toward the end sync. I don't think on my first time I got it perfectly, but it made enough sense to me. Try it out!
 
I read on another site that it does actually start with Viginti Tres.  I think I'm gonna try it that way, even though I already did it with Part 1 first and it seemed to work.  Hey, maybe it will work both ways. Wink


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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:15

I don't have the tool album, but now i'll have to buy it.



Posted By: Petary791
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:16
Now I know why these songs by themselves suck!LOL

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

All very interesting. But I can't help wondering why Tool would bother to separate the three tracks when they could have simply combined them in production.!!! I think the 3 tracks are mean't to be separate, period. However, there is nothing wrong in adding to the hype around a great album - cheers! 


The reason why they're separated IMNSHO is because they're pretentious enough to do it.


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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:41
Originally posted by Petary791 Petary791 wrote:

Now I know why these songs by themselves suck!LOL

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

All very interesting. But I can't help wondering why Tool would bother to separate the three tracks when they could have simply combined them in production.!!! I think the 3 tracks are mean't to be separate, period. However, there is nothing wrong in adding to the hype around a great album - cheers! 


The reason why they're separated IMNSHO is because they're pretentious enough to do it.
 
LOL Quite possibly! Perhaps another ...how should I put this... publicity stunt!!!Wink


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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:47
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

As if the reviews didn't made me want to buy the cd, now It has a big secret behind the fillers to make things better! Friday will be the day I'll buy the album. I can't control the hype of other people. It's contagious! Wacko Pinch


Ha! Don't worry. The little "synch" thing is not even close to the best part of the album. And don't be put off, it's definitely a grower. "Rosetta Stoned" for all its weirdness is a good, wellrounded track, Right in Two is good societal commentary *and good music*, and Vicarious is just plain good. Plus, I still can't calculate what the hell Jambi is in!


Don't worry man, I will give it time to grow and  if its wierd, its a must for me.Big smile



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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:48
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

 
LOL Quite possibly! Perhaps another ...how should I put this... publicity stunt!!!Wink



Well, whatever it is, its working LOL


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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 22:52
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

 
LOL Quite possibly! Perhaps another ...how should I put this... publicity stunt!!!Wink



Well, whatever it is, its working LOL
 Sure is - never seen so many guests and viewers of prog music lounge before LOL


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Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 00:12
I tried it with Viginti Tres/Wings Pt. 2 layed on top of Wings Pt. 1, and the ending for both Wings parts sounds eerie layered over each other. The music and lyrics are slightly at different tempos or just off a tiny bit, and it feels like they cross and fall apart from each other, much like looking through the stereoscopic lenses. VERY weird...

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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 02:00
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Whether this is a load of old guff or not,I have absolutely no idea why someone would use this thread just to denigrate Tool and their fans.

If you cant write anything constructive dont bother writing anything.

You know who you are...Stern Smile


This isnt a Tool appreciation thread,so butt out!


I also reiterate what Easy says about file-sharing. Keep it off the forum,what you do in private is not our concern.
 
oh dear we are grumpy today........i really can't understand what you mean, Tony!!! i don't know anybody who would DARE poke a stick at one of PA's most sacred cows.....i'm sure some of the guys are only just having a bit of fun!! LOL  i liked the idea of running three tracks together, though, i haven't any tool albums so i tried it with three tracks off three different status quo lp's - and by jingo it works! bit of a racket,though!


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 15:45
Here's something else to keep you all busy. Apparently the four individual photos of the band members on the CD cover can be used as the pieces of a kind of puzzle. This is from Tool's web site and they don't say what the puzzle is.


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 15:52
^ is this a cunning attempt at making us cut the album to pieces so we have to buy a new copy?

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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 16:31
I gotta try this! 

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 16:44
Does anyone else here suspect that these aren't the only tracks on this album that do this? I'd add some numbers but I don't have enough time....

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 16:47
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Here's something else to keep you all busy. Apparently the four individual photos of the band members on the CD cover can be used as the pieces of a kind of puzzle. This is from Tool's web site and they don't say what the puzzle is.


You know, the tracks DO sync up, but I wouldn't put it past those guys to make a joke out of it and start bs-ing crap to get the fans to try to do something that won't work....Hell I'd do itSmile

Maynard has a great sense of humor, possibly attributed to his friendship with Bill Hicks. A gag that he tried *that Bill did first* was coming onstage and saying he lost a contact lens somewhere in the audience, making EVERYONE look down to find it. Plus, he was *for a short time* with Green Jelly *at least on Three Little Pigs)


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 22:49
Sry bout triple posting, but can anyone figure out what the person is saying in Vigninti Tres? I sped it up and it sounds like "fransiscooooooooooo"

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Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 08:17
The reason why I`m typing this stuff is because I purchased 10,000 days thanks to the glowing reviews on this site only to find its the worst CD I have purchased  in a long time  LOL

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Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 08:23
^^ you are really content on showing your opinion when its NOT wanted arent you?

And i believe that the reason you are posting that is because you want you number of posts to go up.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 09:32
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Sry bout triple posting, but can anyone figure out what the person is saying in Vigninti Tres? I sped it up and it sounds like "fransiscooooooooooo"

You can google Viginti Tres and find the (alleged) lyrics -

Una Infinitas
Abominatio Nascitur Autumno
hic est tuum temptamen quod temptat tua potentia
viginti tres gradus ad summam potestatem

Although I can't hear these myself




Posted By: vogre
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 01:27
Just discovered that Tool aren't the first to do this!!!
I was just reading some reviews, and found this Rosetta band, which play metal in the vein of Isis and Pelican, and they did the same trick. But they synchronised two CDs of music(One heavy and one ambient) instead of 3 songs. Their album was released in 2005. Do you think that this is only a coincidence??


Posted By: boggs68
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 10:55
I did have a little fun seeing what would happen after syncing the songs, but thats it. What it all boils down too is
 
1. Anyone who has ever been near a studio knows this is how albums are made, it is no big feat
 
2. It is not a great song, just fun to play with
 
3. Me personnally for my money I would rather have 3 better songs than filler that make 1 song.
 
 


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 11:05
Originally posted by vogre vogre wrote:

Just discovered that Tool aren't the first to do this!!!
I was just reading some reviews, and found this Rosetta band, which play metal in the vein of Isis and Pelican, and they did the same trick. But they synchronised two CDs of music(One heavy and one ambient) instead of 3 songs. Their album was released in 2005. Do you think that this is only a coincidence??
Didn't the Flaming Lips do something like this once?


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 11:17
Do you mean the band "Rosetta Stone"?

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 11:34
If so, that's quite amusing, bearing in mind Tool have a track called "Rosetta Stoned" on 10,000 Days.

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Posted By: vogre
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 12:15

It's not Rosetta Stone, only Rosetta. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE57F18DD47AA7120D6973E48F6A27CF51BDB63E38F162F451BDFBA3C54862953F57AD28DCBFDFF6AB571B0FD2EA45C43D2C8E457FED6633E2DED93&sql=11:cs9ds34ea3vg - http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE57F18DD47AA7120D6973E48F6A27CF51BDB63E38F162F451BDFBA3C54862953F57AD28DCBFDFF6AB571B0FD2EA45C43D2C8E457FED6633E2DED93&sql=11:cs9ds34ea3vg



Posted By: DantesRing
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 11:28
In regards to the Flaming Lips comment:

They did release an album called Zaireeka. It comes with four discs that are supposed to be played simultaneously. They each have different parts of the same song. This came from experiments Wayne Coyne used to do with friends where he would record a bunch of cassettes with different parts of a song and have each person play them in the car stereos in an underground garage to get a huge echo-y sound.
He was also fascinated by the idea that it would never be played the same twice as synching 4 players is hard, and cd players typically run at slightly different speed, so there's always an element of chaos to it.
Zaireeka is a pretty good album. Two of the discs are designed to play alone, so if you don't have the equipment to play all discs at the same time, you still get a couple albums of decent quality.


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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 03:54
Wow, i've played together the two songs with cool edit, and wow, it's amazing


Posted By: Man Made God
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 04:02
Posting the double-layered sample isn't allowed I guess?
I'm not into Tool or anything, but I came across the sample, and I thought of posting it, and then it crossed my mind that it might be illegal and stuff..


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