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Topic: Masterpieces
Posted By: dagrush
Subject: Masterpieces
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 17:38
Was just curious about this. What do you think?

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 17:47

Surely more than 100.



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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 17:58
I voted for 61+. There's over 11 000 titles here on this site. Of course there's a lot of 80's crap and best of's etc...

I probably own under 10% of these titles. Among the ones I own I'd rate ca. 50 of them with 5 stars. Logicly there should be well over a hundred albums here that deserve the five stars, from my point of view.


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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 17:58
This is a more complex issue than merely coming up with a ball park figure.
I have mixed feelings.
On the one hand there are many,many albums on the archive that have a five star rating that should only be 4 stars.
On the other hand Prog Bands have produced many masterpieces.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that....


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 18:07
^ Let's say that I think there are 500 really good prog albums. That number can't be too high, considering that there are 2000+ bands in the archives. In the archives I have two stars (4 and 5) to choose from. According to the guidelines I should rate them something like this:
 
5 stars: 25 albums (5%)
4 stars: 475 albums (95%)
 
Ok ... I don't like this. Why? Simply because 95% of my albums are lumped into one big mass. I want to separate the really great ones from the good ones! Like that:
 
5 stars: 25 albums (5%)
4.5 stars: 150 albums (30%)
4 stars: 325 albums (65%)
 
In the archives I can't do that - so I'll write in the review "4.5 stars" and give it 5 stars. That's why with the current rating system people simply cannot be that greedy with 5 stars. Many albums are simply too good to punish them with 4 stars, even if they're not absolutely timeless masterpieces.


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Posted By: reality
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 18:09
I hold a very high standerd for the word masterpiece and there are only ten or so albums that are that good. Prog is hard (some of it) and I think very few got it right.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 18:54
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Let's say that I think there are 500 really good prog albums. That number can't be too high, considering that there are 2000+ bands in the archives. In the archives I have two stars (4 and 5) to choose from. According to the guidelines I should rate them something like this:
 
5 stars: 25 albums (5%)
4 stars: 475 albums (95%)
 
Ok ... I don't like this. Why? Simply because 95% of my albums are lumped into one big mass. I want to separate the really great ones from the good ones! Like that:
 
5 stars: 25 albums (5%)
4.5 stars: 150 albums (30%)
4 stars: 325 albums (65%)
 
In the archives I can't do that - so I'll write in the review "4.5 stars" and give it 5 stars. That's why with the current rating system people simply cannot be that greedy with 5 stars. Many albums are simply too good to punish them with 4 stars, even if they're not absolutely timeless masterpieces.

Agreed!
I always put the 4.5 albums up to 5...if I didn´t I think there would be just three or four 5 stars albums in my rewiews!


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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 19:00
I don't think you can give a number of masterpieces. One album can be considered a masterpiece by someone and someone else might think it's bollocks Tongue

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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 19:15
I think there are more masterpieces than 61, hence I voted for 61+.
 
The more you learn about prog the more masterpieces you find.
 
P.S. I am not talking about ratings in PA or anywhere else - just about masterpieces of progressive music in my understanding of this term.
 
 


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 19:37

Two

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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: May 13 2006 at 19:43
50-60 for me but now I realise it's too much. Confused


Posted By: razifa
Date Posted: May 14 2006 at 01:14

There are more than 60... specially in the late 70's



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Posted By: R_DeNIRO
Date Posted: May 14 2006 at 01:50
It depends of the albums you have listen to. I have around 450 cds, so I only can say that between 21 and 30 are masterpieces, but I understand that people who hear more music like me could believe this is a short number.

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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 14 2006 at 01:55
11-20. Many in the Krautrock/Psychedelic Genre!


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 02:37
Surely more than 61 since the late sixties.


Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 04:49
It's personal and depends among other things  on how many records you know. I have some 200 CD's and know some 100 more. I would guess 5-10 of them are masterpieces. I tend not to overplay these albums so i keep enjoying them. A lot more are excellent of course. If these records are also to be counted as masterpieces than 61+ is ok with me.

But if you do know 61+ masterpieces than you'll need a category of super masterpieces i think.

I see from the other posts that many have taken the poll as meaning a guess as to how many masterpieces exist among all the albums on PA. 61+ might well be right then, i have no idea how many i've missed.




Posted By: Antennas
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 06:06
This is obviously dependent on how many albums you know...
I'd like to add that I think many reviewers are a bit too easy with dealing out 5 stars on albums. If people throw 5 stars-ratings out on <I>all</I> the albums they like, it'll end up being meaningless in the end.


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