Intro to Zappa
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Topic: Intro to Zappa
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Subject: Intro to Zappa
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 20:15
I really want to get into Zappa, but he's released sooo much stuff that
I have no idea where to start.... what album should I start with? 
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I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 20:47
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Start with Apostrophe and Over Night Sensation. Two excellent albums that are nearly commercial, because they are melodic, and great musicianship. Think of them as gateway drugs. Then go on to Hot Rats (my fav) the Joe's Garage trilogy and Chunga's Revenge. If you're a guitar fans, Frank's got some killer guitar albums.
Don't be afraid, the waters deep. Just jump right in. 
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 20:56
ditto Over Nite Sensations and Apostrophe is the
place to start, and maybe finish. The others he
mentioned are some of his best, but Frank never
really made a commercial album but the 2
mentioned and he really needs to try to be a little
commercial to swallow.
Frank streches the word commercial quite a bit and I
do consider ONS and ' as TRUE CLASSICS!
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Posted By: asuma
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 20:56
maybe try cheap thrills. because it's cheap
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*Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.*
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 22:34
 danbo wrote:
Start with Apostrophe and Over Night Sensation. Two excellent albums that are nearly commercial, because they are melodic, and great musicianship. Think of them as gateway drugs. Then go on to Hot Rats (my fav) the Joe's Garage trilogy and Chunga's Revenge. If you're a guitar fans, Frank's got some killer guitar albums.
Don't be afraid, the waters deep. Just jump right in.
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 Quite agree. Guitar solo/song "Watermelon in Easter Hay" from Joe's Garage, is TRULY beautiful , by any standard!
After the above, then Sheik Yerbouti and You Are What You Is are hilarious, essential, latter-day Frank . (See my review of You Are What You Is.)
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 00:27
Overnite Sensation and You Are What You Is
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 00:28
Overnite Sensation seems to be the leader, eh?
Although I've been told that Hot Rats is more jazzy....
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I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 00:44
It is.
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Jethro Tull
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 01:13
Stay away from Bongo Fury until you're stronger 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 03:04
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I think that either of my two favourites would be good places to start; "We're Only In It For The Money" - a p*** take of a generation, and "Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch" - some of this is heavy going initially, but the album is worth the money just for "Valley Girl", "Teenage Prostitute" and Steve Vai...
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 03:05
 James
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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 05:24
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Sweetnighter wrote:
Overnite Sensation seems to be the leader, eh?
Although I've been told that Hot Rats is more jazzy....
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Jazzy and bluesy - the latter because of Beefheart and Sugar Cane Harris(?) on Willie The Pimp
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 05:29
I'd go for the Strictly Commercial compilation.It's a good overview and isn't strictly commercial 
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 09:55
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The Zappa FamilyTrust just released another Best Of (shame on them), but I think it is a great starter of the short songs,otherwise get Strictly commercial the first Best of.My favourite band is 1972-1974 with the one and only Ruth Underwood,George Duke, N.M.Brook, the Fowler Bros.All their record releases are excellent and funny as usual. ...and if you 're into dancing get the Bebop Tango and the Black Page.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 11:35
Alucard wrote:
The Zappa FamilyTrust just released another Best Of (shame on them |
This is not true! The latest BEST OF was not released by the ZFT, but by Rykodisc!
I demand your apologies! 
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 11:38
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Sweetnighter wrote:
I really want to get into Zappa, but he's released sooo much stuff that I have no idea where to start.... what album should I start with? |
There's a big difference between the music by the Mothers Of Invention and Zappa's solo work. I like both very much. This is what I wrote at the end of FZ's bio for the ProgArchives website:
Here’s a small list of ZAPPA-records I recommend. They’re all must-haves, and some of them may be a good starting point for people who are unfamiliar with his work. Firstly, all of his albums with the early MOTHERS (except for “Cruising With Ruben & The Jets”) are very good. I think the best ones are “We’re Only In It For The Money”, “Uncle Meat” and “Weasels Ripped My Flesh”. “Freak Out!” is less interesting, but it does have great historical value, for it was, in my opinion, the first progressive rock record ever. Zappa’s second solo-album “Hot Rats” contains some great instrumental (except for CAPTAIN BEEFHEART’s vocals on “Willie The Pimp”) jazzrock. “Hot Rats” is definitily among his best albums. But, if you are unfamiliar with ZAPPA’s work, the albums of THE MOTHERS OF INVENTION and ZAPPA’s solo-albums from the sixties may scare you off. If you’d like some more accessible music, you could start with “Over-Nite Sensation”, “Apostrophe (')” or “One Size Fits All”. They’re all great jazzy bluesrock records. ZAPPA’s most poppy record was the controversial “Sheik Yerbouti” though. It contains many accessible ZAPPA-classics, with very funny lyrics. You could also start with a compilation. “Strictly Commercial”, “Have I Offended Someone?”, “Cheap Thrills” and “Son Of Cheep Thrills” are all decent compilations, that give you a nice insight in what diverse kinds of music Frank ZAPPA made.
Good luck! 
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 12:57
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I started with We're Only In It For the Money, and it almost turned me off from him entirely. Great album, but NOT a good starting point.
As I said on AIM, you'll like Hot Rats since you're into jazz fusion.
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Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 15:07
Useful_Idiot wrote:
I started with We're Only In It For the Money, and it almost turned me off from him entirely. Great album, but NOT a good starting point.
As I said on AIM, you'll like Hot Rats since you're into jazz fusion.
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That was my first Zappa experience and it was great!!!!!!
It was a marvolous tarting point.
My essentials are Goes Garage 1-3, just another band from L.A. and Uncy meat!
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 15:10
Mr 160 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Billy Connolly
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Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 15:12
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Velvetclown wrote:
Mr 160 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
You remembered!!! Bless your heart sunny boy
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 15:12
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Velvetclown wrote:
Mr 160 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
...I think that ought to be his new name from this day forward!
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 15:12
My pleasure !!!!!!!!
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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 15:16
gdub411 wrote:
Velvetclown wrote:
Mr 160 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
...I think that ought to be his new name from this day forward!
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I'd rather be Mr. 200
But we will give velvetclown the pleasure!
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 16:41
I would certainly go with 'Overnight Sensation' as a first foray into the vast country that is Zappa, followed by 'One Size Fits All' (purely as they fit together so well); once you get more adventurous, you can go for albums like 'Hot Rats', 'Bongo Fury' (one of my personal faves), or even some of the later material, such as Joes Garage (a comparative commercial success in Zappa terms, but not necessarily an 'immediate' album).
Once you feel you are finding your feet & getting to know him better, you can try his most commercial albums - I speak of course of the multi platinum award winning, 'top of the pops' favorites, such as 'Jazz From Hell', 'Make A Jazz Noise Here', 'Yellow Shark' and the total commercial sellout that was 'Civilisation phase III'
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 16:52
Wizard/TRueStar wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
Velvetclown wrote:
Mr 160 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
...I think that ought to be his new name from this day forward!
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I'd rather be Mr. 200
But we will give velvetclown the pleasure! |
oh good god...
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I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 30 2004 at 18:21
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Freak_Out.html" class="album - Freak Out!
June 1966
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Absolutely_Free.html" class="album - Absolutely Free June
1967
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/We%27re_only_In_It_For_The_Money.html" class="album - We're Only
In It For The Money March 1968
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Lumpy_Gravy.html" class="album - Lumpy Gravy May
1968
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Cruising_With_Ruben_and_The_Jets.html" class="album - Cruising
With Ruben & The Jets December 1968
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Mothermania.html" class="album - Mothermania March
1969
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Uncle_Meat.html" class="album - Uncle Meat April
1969
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Hot_Rats.html" class="album - Hot Rats October
1969
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Burnt_Weeny_Sandwich.html" class="album - Burnt Weeny Sandwich
February 1970
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Weasels_Ripped_My_Flesh.html" class="album - Weasels Ripped My
Flesh August 1970
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Chunga%27s_Revenge.html" class="album - Chunga's Revenge October
1970
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Fillmore_East_June_1971.html" class="album - Fillmore East, June
1971 August 1971
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/200_Motels.html" class="album - Frank Zappa's 200 Motels October
1971
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Just_Another_Band_From_LA.html" class="album - Just Another Band
From L.A. March 1972
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Waka_Jawaka.html" class="album - Waka/Jawaka July
1972
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Grand_Wazoo.html" class="album - The Grand Wazoo November
1972
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Over-Nite_Sensation.html" class="album - Over-Nite Sensation
September 1973
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Apostrophe_%28%27%29.html" class="album - Apostrophe (') March
1974
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Roxy_and_Elsewhere.html" class="album - Roxy & Elsewhere
September 1974
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/one_Size_Fits_All.html" class="album - One Size Fits All June
1975
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Bongo_Fury.html" class="album - Bongo Fury October
1975
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Zoot_Allures.html" class="album - Zoot Allures October
1976
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Zappa_In_New_York.html" class="album - Zappa In New York March
1978
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Studio_Tan.html" class="album - Studio Tan September
1978
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Sleep_Dirt.html" class="album - Sleep Dirt January
1979
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Sheik_Yerbouti.html" class="album - Sheik Yerbouti March
1979
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Orchestral_Favorites.html" class="album - Orchestral Favorites
May 1979
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Joe%27s_Garage.html" class="album - Joe's Garage Act I September
1979
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Joe%27s_Garage.html" class="album - Joe's Garage Acts II & III
November 1979
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Tinsel_Town_Rebellion.html" class="album - Tinsel Town Rebellion
May 1981
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Shut_Up_%27N_Play_Yer_Guitar.html" class="album - Shut Up 'N Play
Yer Guitar May 1981
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Shut_Up_%27N_Play_Yer_Guitar.html" class="album - Shut Up 'N Play
Yer Guitar Some More May 1981
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Shut_Up_%27N_Play_Yer_Guitar.html" class="album - Return Of The Son
Of Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar May 1981
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Are_What_You_Is.html" class="album - You Are What You Is
September 1981
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Ship_Arriving_Too_Late_To_Save_A_Drowning_Witch.html" class="album - Ship
Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch May 1982
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Man_From_Utopia.html" class="album - The Man From Utopia
March 1983
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Baby_Snakes.html" class="album - Baby Snakes March
1983
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/London_Symphony_Orchestra.html" class="album - London Symphony
Orchestra Vol. I June 1983
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Perfect_Stranger.html" class="album - Boulez conducts Zappa:
The Perfect Stranger August 1984
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Them_Or_Us.html" class="album - Them Or Us October
1984
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Thing-Fish.html" class="album - Thing-Fish November
1984
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Francesco_Zappa.html" class="album - Francesco Zappa November
1984
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Old_Masters_Box_one.html" class="album - The Old Masters Box
One April 1985
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/FZ_Meets_The_Mothers_Of_Prevention.html" class="album - Frank Zappa
Meets The Mothers Of Prevention November 1985
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Does_Humor_Belong_In_Music.html" class="album - Does Humor Belong
In Music? January 1986
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Old_Masters_Box_Two.html" class="album - The Old Masters Box
Two November 1986
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Jazz_From_Hell.html" class="album - Jazz From Hell November
1986
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/London_Symphony_Orchestra.html" class="album - London Symphony
Orchestra Vol. II September 1987
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Old_Masters_Box_Three.html" class="album - The Old Masters
Box Three December 1987
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Guitar.html" class="album - Guitar April
1988
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_1.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 1 May 1988
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_2.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 2 October 1988
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Broadway_The_Hard_Way.html" class="album - Broadway The Hard Way
October 1988
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_3.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 3 November 1989
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Best_Band_You_Never_Heard_In_Your_Life.html" class="album - The
Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life April 1991
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Make_A_Jazz_Noise_Here.html" class="album - Make A Jazz Noise Here
June 1991
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_4.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 4 June 1991
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_5.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 5 July 1992
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_6.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 6 July 1992
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Playground_Psychotics.html" class="album - Playground Psychotics
October 1992
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Ahead_Of_Their_Time.html" class="album - Ahead Of Their Time
April 1993
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Yellow_Shark.html" class="album - The Yellow Shark November
1993
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Civilization_Phaze_III.html" class="album - Civilization Phaze
III December 1994
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Lost_Episodes.html" class="album - The Lost Episodes February
1996
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Lather.html" class="album - Läther September
1996
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/FZ_Plays_The_Music_Of_FZ.html" class="album - Frank Zappa Plays
The Music Of Frank Zappa, a memorial tribute October
1996
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Have_I_Offended_Someone.html" class="album - Have I Offended Someone?
April 1997
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Mystery_Disc.html" class="album - Mystery Disc September
1998
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Everything_Is_Healing_Nicely.html" class="album - Everything Is
Healing Nicely December 1999
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/FZ_OZ.html" class="album - FZ:OZ (VR 2002-1,
August 16, 2002)
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Halloween.html" class="album - Halloween (DTS
1101, February 4, 2003)
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Joe%27s_Corsage.html" class="album - Joe's Corsage (VR
20041, May 30, 2004)
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/QuAUDIOPHILIAc.html" class="album - QuAUDIOPHILIAc (DTS
1125, September 14, 2004)
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Joe%27s_Domage.html" class="album - Joe's Domage (VR
20042, October 1, 2004)
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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 08:43
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We are not worthy!
But I've already got about half of 'em! 
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 08:49
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 08:50
Same here, together we´ve got em all
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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 08:51
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 08:53
Great collection there
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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 08:59
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Freak_Out.html" class="album - Freak Out!
June 1966
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Absolutely_Free.html" class="album - Absolutely Free June
1967
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/We%27re_only_In_It_For_The_Money.html" class="album - We're Only
In It For The Money March 1968
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Lumpy_Gravy.html" class="album - Lumpy Gravy May
1968
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Cruising_With_Ruben_and_The_Jets.html" class="album - Cruising
With Ruben & The Jets December 1968
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Hot_Rats.html" class="album - Hot Rats October
1969
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Chunga%27s_Revenge.html" class="album - Chunga's Revenge October
1970
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/200_Motels.html" class="album - Frank Zappa's 200 Motels October
1971
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Waka_Jawaka.html" class="album - Waka/Jawaka July
1972
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Over-Nite_Sensation.html" class="album - Over-Nite Sensation
September 1973
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Roxy_and_Elsewhere.html" class="album - Roxy & Elsewhere
September 1974
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/one_Size_Fits_All.html" class="album - One Size Fits All June
1975
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Zappa_In_New_York.html" class="album - Zappa In New York March
1978
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Sheik_Yerbouti.html" class="album - Sheik Yerbouti March
1979
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Joe%27s_Garage.html" class="album - Joe's Garage September
1979
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Tinsel_Town_Rebellion.html" class="album - Tinsel Town Rebellion
May 1981
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Shut_Up_%27N_Play_Yer_Guitar.html" class="album - Shut Up 'N Play
Yer Guitar May 1981
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Are_What_You_Is.html" class="album - You Are What You Is
September 1981
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/London_Symphony_Orchestra.html" class="album - London Symphony
Orchestra Vol. I June 1983
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Perfect_Stranger.html" class="album - Boulez conducts Zappa:
The Perfect Stranger August 1984
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Them_Or_Us.html" class="album - Them Or Us October
1984
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/FZ_Meets_The_Mothers_Of_Prevention.html" class="album - Frank Zappa
Meets The Mothers Of Prevention November 1985
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Does_Humor_Belong_In_Music.html" class="album - Does Humor Belong
In Music? January 1986
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Jazz_From_Hell.html" class="album - Jazz From Hell November
1986
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/London_Symphony_Orchestra.html" class="album - London Symphony
Orchestra Vol. II September 1987
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Guitar.html" class="album - Guitar April
1988
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_1.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 1 May 1988
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_2.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 2 October 1988
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Broadway_The_Hard_Way.html" class="album - Broadway The Hard Way
October 1988
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_3.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 3 November 1989
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Best_Band_You_Never_Heard_In_Your_Life.html" class="album - The
Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life April 1991
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Make_A_Jazz_Noise_Here.html" class="album - Make A Jazz Noise Here
June 1991
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_4.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 4 June 1991
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_5.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 5 July 1992
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/You_Can%27t_Do_That_on_Stage_Anymore_Vol_6.html" class="album - You
Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 6 July 1992
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Yellow_Shark.html" class="album - The Yellow Shark November
1993
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Civilization_Phaze_III.html" class="album - Civilization Phaze
III December 1994
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/The_Lost_Episodes.html" class="album - The Lost Episodes February
1996
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Lather.html" class="album - Läther September
1996
- http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/Joe%27s_Corsage.html" class="album - Joe's Corsage (VR
20041, May 30, 2004)
The results from the Swedish jury 
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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 09:07
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Which ones that I don't have are your favourites?
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 09:13
You just have to get ON STAGE vol 2 and DOES HUMOR BELONG IN MUSIC at least.
This is not the same as the DVD !!!!
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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 09:19
Peter wrote:
danbo wrote:
Start with Apostrophe and Over Night Sensation. Two excellent albums that are nearly commercial, because they are melodic, and great musicianship. Think of them as gateway drugs. Then go on to Hot Rats (my fav) the Joe's Garage trilogy and Chunga's Revenge. If you're a guitar fans, Frank's got some killer guitar albums.
Don't be afraid, the waters deep. Just jump right in.
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Quite agree. Guitar solo/song "Watermelon in Easter Hay" from Joe's Garage, is TRULY beautiful, by any standard!
After the above, then Sheik Yerbouti and You Are What You Is are hilarious, essential, latter-day Frank. (See my review of You Are What You Is.) |
I'm with you on these suggestions gentlemen  however for a more esoteric intro (I prefer the hard way up Everest!) Bongo Fury is an excellent album as is Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch but hey that's just my personal taste and the first albums I bought.
I'd also recommend the Baby Snakes DVD as an intro to the Man in his element (on stage). However, watch out for the NYC audience, they are a bunch of 'effin nutters!!!
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 09:30
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Sigod, couldn't agree more..
'Baaaabyyyyy Snnnnaaaaakkes' is my favourite live footage of Zappa. Its a great concert. You can get completely lost in that DVD, especially when you've been..well..you know, indulging (in fine wine ) The film about the animation is pleasantly confusing to say the least.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 09:51
Blacksword wrote:
Sigod, couldn't agree more..
'Baaaabyyyyy Snnnnaaaaakkes' is my favourite live footage of Zappa. Its a great concert. You can get completely lost in that DVD, especially when you've been..well..you know, indulging (in fine wine ) The film about the animation is pleasantly confusing to say the least.
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You also get to see a very young Adrian Belew, when he had hair!!!
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 10:44
Joren wrote:
[QUOTE=Alucard]
The Zappa FamilyTrust just released another Best Of (shame on them |
This is not true! The latest BEST OF was not released by the ZFT, but by Rykodisc!
I demand your apologies!
Hey Yoren, Ryko releases nothing without the accord of the Zappa Family Trust, look at the inside of the booklett.Go on their webside(ZFT) and look how they make money on the heritage.Have you ever seen these Zappa Picks series,released by Ryko?"We're only in it for the money as the good old man" would have said!
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 11:06
sigod wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Sigod, couldn't agree more..
'Baaaabyyyyy Snnnnaaaaakkes' is my favourite live footage of Zappa. Its a great concert. You can get completely lost in that DVD, especially when you've been..well..you know, indulging (in fine wine ) The film about the animation is pleasantly confusing to say the least.
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You also get to see a very young Adrian Belew, when he had hair!!!
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..and what a fine voice that guy had (still has I'm sure) His voice is the best thing about KC's 'Discipline' album IMO.
Sorry, I know you're a Fripp enthusiast..
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 11:31
Blacksword wrote:
sigod wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Sigod, couldn't agree more..
'Baaaabyyyyy Snnnnaaaaakkes' is my favourite live footage of Zappa. Its a great concert. You can get completely lost in that DVD, especially when you've been..well..you know, indulging (in fine wine ) The film about the animation is pleasantly confusing to say the least.
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You also get to see a very young Adrian Belew, when he had hair!!!
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..and what a fine voice that guy had (still has I'm sure) His voice is the best thing about KC's 'Discipline' album IMO.
Sorry, I know you're a Fripp enthusiast..
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A Fripp enthusiast, me??
Man alive, you should check out some of the King Crimson fansites. I am but a small fish compared to the whale like fanaticism that Fripp attracts on those places.
Potential stalkers one and all. 
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: December 02 2004 at 03:22
More Zappa please.
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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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