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Topic: Jazz Rock Fusion Masterpieces
Posted By: Rorro
Subject: Jazz Rock Fusion Masterpieces
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 13:40
What Jazz Rock/Fusion albums can be considered masterpieces?
 
Right now i say Birds Of Fire, what other are masterpieces?, Do you think BOF is not a masterpiece? why?.



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Posted By: Rutgers Joe
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 14:00
Jeff Beck's Blow By Blow


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 14:39
Neil Ardley-Kaleidoscope of Rainbows
Nucleus-first two albums, moreso the second one
Chick Corea-Return to Forever

Those automatically spring to mind, although I'm sure there are more I can't think of at the moment.


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Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 14:52
Dixie Dregs - Night of the Living Dregs
Billy Cobham - Spectrum
Jeff Beck - Wired
 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 14:57
Birds of Fire is the one that sprang to my mind immediately.  Amazing album.


Posted By: Inferno
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 14:59
Light as a feather and Romantic Warrior from Return to forever

Black Market and Heavy Weather from Weather Report

Inner Vision Moutains from Mahavishnu is quite good too




Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 15:06
Wigwam's Being from 1973 can be considered as a masterpiece of this genre.

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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 15:09
Weather Report were too inconsistent to have an album I would consider a masterpiece, and I also find that Romantic Warrior is one of my least favorite RtF albums, go figure.

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Posted By: Schizoid Man
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 15:23
Stanley Clarke's "Schooldays". Not a weak track on the album.

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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 15:30
For me Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior and Brand X's Morrocan Roll.


Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 15:31
Nucleus - Elastic Rock
Maneige - Ni Vent... Ni Nouvelle

But sadly, I only have a couple of fusion albums at the moment.  I plan on investing in some Return to Forever, more Mahavishnu Orcestra (Inner Mounting Flame is great), and more Maneige.
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 15:45
bitches brew

on the corner

inner mounting flame (much better then birds of fire)

romantic warrior...........



Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 16:02
     Miles, "Bitches Brew" and "Live Evil", maybe "Jack Johnson" too. Weather Report's "Mysterious Traveler". The best Return to Forever IMHO is "Hymn of the 7th Galaxy"...Bill Connors is a much ballsier guitarist than DiMeola, and Corea was wilder here as well, and didn't play synthesizer (not his specialty really).

     Some other great fusion albums: Passport "Cross-Collateral" and "Looking Through", the Passport called "Doldinger Jubilee", which was live with Brian Auger, Phillip Catherine, Les McCann & Eddie Harris, totally smokin'!

     the 1st 2 Arti & Mistieri albums ("Tilt" & "Giro di Valzer per Domani")


Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 16:04

Originally posted by Inferno Inferno wrote:

Light as a feather and Romantic Warrior from Return to forever

Black Market and Heavy Weather from Weather Report

Inner Vision Moutains from Mahavishnu is quite good too







It looks like you've mixed the titles of two Mahavishnu's albums:

        The Inner Mounting Flame

and

        Visions Of The Emerald Beyond


Other fusion masterpieces:

        all Miles Davis' albums from the 70s:

        Bitches Brew
        Big Fun
        Pangaea
        Agharta


        plus Aura from the 80s.

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Posted By: MattNYR
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 16:19
I agree with Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra

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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 16:34
Aera's(germany) Humanum Est and Hand and Fuss? Dzyan's Electric Silence? Secret Oyster's(denmark) Straight to the Krankenhaus? Francios Breant's(france) Sons Optiques?
Cervello's(italy) Melos?
    


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 16:49
Brand X - Livestock, Masques
Mezzoforte - Octopus
Frank Zappa - The Grand Wazoo
Gong - Gazeuse!


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Posted By: Zoso
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 17:16
Return to Forever - Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy
Pat Metheny - Bright Size Life


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Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 17:36
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Nucleus - Elastic Rock
Maneige - Ni Vent... Ni Nouvelle

But sadly, I only have a couple of fusion albums at the moment.  I plan on investing in some Return to Forever, more Mahavishnu Orcestra (Inner Mounting Flame is great), and more Maneige.
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I would never call Maneige a fusion band, even though they are quite jazzy in a "fusionesque" way. Maybe symphonic jazz rock or something like that .

Anyway, I really REALLY recommend you to get Libre Service.. Self Service, which is a masterpiece - maybe even better than Ni Vent... Ni Nouvelle. And it's from 1978 ! Too bad it's quite hard to get a copy since they have never been released on CDs, I managed to get both Ni Vent... and Libre Service on vinyl, over Ebay. I would really recommend you to get it !!


Posted By: wolf0621
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 17:48
A lot of the records mentioned in prior posts plus:
 
Return To Forever: No Mystery
Dixie Dregs: Dregs of The Earth, Industry Standard, Free Fall, What If
Mahavishnu Orchestra: Between Nothingness & Eternity
Colosseum II: War Dance, Strange New Flesh
David Sancious: Forest of Feelings
Tony Williams: Million Dollar Legs
Alan Holdsworth: Sand
Jeff Beck: Wired, Blow By Blow, Live w/Jan Hammer Group
Al DiMeola: Elegant Gypsy, Land Of The Midnight Sun, Casino, Electric Rendezvous
John Scofield: Still Warm
Joe Beck: The Journey
Weather Report: Heavy Weather
Utopia: Another Live
 


Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 18:23

I garee besides Birds Of Fire, With Inner Mounting Flame,  Return To Forever, Masques, Moroccan Roll, of course Bitches Brew, but i disagree with Spectrum, IMO it doesn't reaches the level of these other masterpieces.

Anything Goes by Brad Mehldau trio is a masterpiece IMO.

Chick Corea& Return To Forever - Light As A Feather is also a masterpiece.



Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 18:41
Originally posted by erlenst erlenst wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Nucleus - Elastic Rock
Maneige - Ni Vent... Ni Nouvelle

But sadly, I only have a couple of fusion albums at the moment.  I plan on investing in some Return to Forever, more Mahavishnu Orcestra (Inner Mounting Flame is great), and more Maneige.
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I would never call Maneige a fusion band, even though they are quite jazzy in a "fusionesque" way. Maybe symphonic jazz rock or something like that .

Anyway, I really REALLY recommend you to get Libre Service.. Self Service, which is a masterpiece - maybe even better than Ni Vent... Ni Nouvelle. And it's from 1978 ! Too bad it's quite hard to get a copy since they have never been released on CDs, I managed to get both Ni Vent... and Libre Service on vinyl, over Ebay. I would really recommend you to get it !!


Thanks to Prog Québec, an organism promoting Québecois Prog, all Maneige albums have just been reissued to CD. Clap

I bought Ni vent ni Nouvelle yesterday and the sound quality is great!




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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 18:42
Maneige's Ni Vent and Libre Service, Sloche and many other Quebecios bands from the 70's are available on CD, try Greg Walker(UT) or Doug Larson(NJ). I like Ni Vent, best I think in that its more original, rustic and progressive than Libre, which is really better as a fusion album.
the comment above beat me by a minute
    


Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 18:50
Can't emphasize Brand X's Unorthodox Behavior enough.  So good.


Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 18:54
Originally posted by erlenst erlenst wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Nucleus - Elastic Rock
Maneige - Ni Vent... Ni Nouvelle

But sadly, I only have a couple of fusion albums at the moment.  I plan on investing in some Return to Forever, more Mahavishnu Orcestra (Inner Mounting Flame is great), and more Maneige.
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I would never call Maneige a fusion band, even though they are quite jazzy in a "fusionesque" way. Maybe symphonic jazz rock or something like that .

Anyway, I really REALLY recommend you to get Libre Service.. Self Service, which is a masterpiece - maybe even better than Ni Vent... Ni Nouvelle. And it's from 1978 ! Too bad it's quite hard to get a copy since they have never been released on CDs, I managed to get both Ni Vent... and Libre Service on vinyl, over Ebay. I would really recommend you to get it !!

I don't really consider them to be true fusion either (well, not that album anyway) although they definitely have jazzy elements in their music.

I can get Self Service for $16 on LaserCD.com, so I'm considering it. Wink


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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 18:58
while on canadian bands, one should really hear Michael Brook's Cobalt Blue.


Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 21:24
Miles Davis- Bitches Brew! i have the complete sessions - 4 CDs worth of fusion-y goodness! It makes me happy.

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Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 21:44
soft machine 3 is the best jazz rock album there is


Posted By: fragile43k
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 01:22
What about Hatfield and the North's "The Rotter's Club".  I've always considered the later Canterbury bands like Hatfield and the North and National Health to be fusion bands.  I mean, come on.  This album is flawless.  Even the bonus tracks are brilliant.  Have you ever heard fusion that beautiful...that majestic.


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Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 02:42

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 03:12
Originally posted by wolf0621 wolf0621 wrote:

A lot of the records mentioned in prior posts plus:
 
Return To Forever: No Mystery
Dixie Dregs: Dregs of The Earth, Industry Standard, Free Fall, What If
Mahavishnu Orchestra: Between Nothingness & Eternity
Colosseum II: War Dance, Strange New Flesh
David Sancious: Forest of Feelings
Tony Williams: Million Dollar Legs
Alan Holdsworth: Sand
Jeff Beck: Wired, Blow By Blow, Live w/Jan Hammer Group
Al DiMeola: Elegant Gypsy, Land Of The Midnight Sun, Casino, Electric Rendezvous
John Scofield: Still Warm
Joe Beck: The Journey
Weather Report: Heavy Weather
Utopia: Another Live
 
 
 
Now that's a list! I'd add Just As I Thought to Sancious and Where Have I Known You Before? to RTF.
 
Also:
 
Mingo Lewis — Flight Never Ending
 
Jan Hammer — Like Children (with Jerry Goodman), Oh Yeah?, Time Is Free (with David Earle Johnson), On The Mountain (Elvin Jones as leader)


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Posted By: yeppp
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 06:21
Bohren & Der Club Of Gore- Black Earth
Bohren & Der Club Of Gore- Sunset Mission
Frank Zappa- Grand Wazoo


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 08:08
Originally posted by fragile43k fragile43k wrote:

What about Hatfield and the North's "The Rotter's Club".  I've always considered the later Canterbury bands like Hatfield and the North and National Health to be fusion bands.  I mean, come on.  This album is flawless.  Even the bonus tracks are brilliant.  Have you ever heard fusion that beautiful...that majestic.
 
ClapClapClap to that! TRC is superb, no other word for that. Hatfield's debut album is very good too, though not the masterpiece their second is.
 
"Birds of Fire" is also utterly mind-blowing. The quality of the playing is stellar!


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 08:15
Gilgamesh - Another Fine Tune You've Got Me Into
Aera - Live
Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour
Bruford - Feels Good to Me
Embryo - Rocksession (this one is filed under Kraut, but is excellent fusion)
Jack Lancaster & Robin Lumley - Marsscape
Gong - Gazeuse

to name a few


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Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 08:24

Birds Of Fire.Clap

Amen to that.

TRC is also Brilliant.


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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 08:55
Originally posted by Mr. Sanchez Mr. Sanchez wrote:


Birds Of Fire.Clap

Amen to that.
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Yes indeed - my favourite "fusion" album. Also great are Miles Davis' Bitches Brew, and Baldfriede mentioned Bill Bruford's "Feels Good to me"; then there's Weather report's "Heavy Weather" and "Black Market" Of the "usual suspects" I find Return to Forever a little bland, if brilliantly played.
 
 


Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 09:34
Yeah, Bitches Brew is another great listen, so are the others you mentioned Phil.
Spectrum isn't bad either, but nowhere near the standards of the others.


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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 10:48
Dzyan - Electric silence (1974)
totally wicked


Posted By: Rutgers Joe
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 11:48
 

Originally posted by RoyalJelly RoyalJelly wrote:

The best Return to Forever IMHO is "Hymn of the 7th Galaxy"...Bill Connors is a much ballsier guitarist than DiMeola, and Corea was wilder here as well, and didn't play synthesizer (not his specialty really).

 
 
Originally posted by Zoso Zoso wrote:

Return to Forever - Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy
 
 
Approve Make it three for RTF's Hymn...
 
 
....oh and (how could I forget?) Colosseum Live...


Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 12:33
Originally posted by RoyalJelly RoyalJelly wrote:

     Miles, "Bitches Brew" and "Live Evil", maybe "Jack Johnson" too. Weather Report's "Mysterious Traveler". The best Return to Forever IMHO is "Hymn of the 7th Galaxy"...Bill Connors is a much ballsier guitarist than DiMeola, and Corea was wilder here as well, and didn't play synthesizer (not his specialty really).

     Some other great fusion albums: Passport "Cross-Collateral" and "Looking Through", the Passport called "Doldinger Jubilee", which was live with Brian Auger, Phillip Catherine, Les McCann & Eddie Harris, totally smokin'!

     the 1st 2 Arti & Mistieri albums ("Tilt" & "Giro di Valzer per Domani")
 
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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 12:50

What really good Jazz/Rock Fusion albums have meen released since 2000?

I like a lot Planet X - Moonbabes and Deus Ex Machina - Cinque, but i don't see them as masterpieces.


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 13:15
All my "usual suspects" include Hymn Of The 7th Galaxy posted above , and then would support and in fact go further than Rorro, asking for nominations of some more modern jazz rock classics. Here are a few for starters:
 
 
Hellborg Buckethead Shrieve: Octave Of The Holy Innocents (1993 - the remix issued 2002 doesn't work as well)
Conrad Schrenk's Extravaganza: Save the Robots. (1996)
McHacek: Featuring Ourselves (c1998)
 
Nu.fusion/nu.jazz has got one mention with Brad Mehldau already, but would include
 
EST's Strange Place For Snow
Bugge Wesseltoft's New Conception Of Jazz: Live
 
and i'm prepared to stick my neck out and say Terj Rypdal's nu.fusion tribute to Bitches Brew, Vossabrygg (released in Spring 2006) will be still spoken about in years to come.
 
BTW, if you were asked to come up with a CD burn of 79 to 80 minutes of classic jazzrock classic tracks, however, a tune by a named artist can only be used once, what would the list be - better, in an order to provoke a special flow of moods? 
 


Posted By: bsurmano
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 16:29
Nucleus - We'll Talk About It Later
Al Di Meola - Elegant Gipsy


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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 16:35

Michel Camilo - On Fire is a great labum , a masterpiece. I'll think of which songs would i include in a compilation of jazz rock classics.



Posted By: spacecraft
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 18:43
Would Ton Ton Macoute count? I know they only ever made one album, and it does have VDGG tendencies, but there are some jazz bits in there.
 
Or should i hold a pillow over my face for a wee whiley?
 


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Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 21:11
Originally posted by Rorro Rorro wrote:

What really good Jazz/Rock Fusion albums have meen released since 2000?


I like a lot Planet X - Moonbabes and Deus Ex Machina - Cinque, but i don't see them as masterpieces.

    
Ohm - "Amino Acid Flashback" is great
Tetsuo Sakurai "Gentle Hearts" is a kicker too


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 21:16
Happy The Man- The  Muse Awakens


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 22:16
Originally posted by Rorro Rorro wrote:

What really good Jazz/Rock Fusion albums have meen released since 2000?
 
 
Kenso's released two studio albums this decade: Esoptron  and  Fabulis Mirabilibus de Bombycosi Scriptus — and I definitely think the latter is a masterpiece!! But I like everything Kenso's done. Smile


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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: May 12 2006 at 22:27
Return to Forever..............................Romantic Warrior
Chick Corea Akoustic Band..................Alive
Patricia Barber..................................café blue (very interesting album)
Weather Report.................................Heavy Weather
Jeff Beck..........................................Blow by Blow
Mahavishnu Orchestra.........................Birds of Fire
 
just to name a few.


Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 02:54

One of my favorite genres.

Here is a list of my favorite fusion artists

1. Mahavishnu orchestra (Birds of fire, From nothingness to eternity, Inner mountain flame)

2. Weather report (Heavy weather, 8:30)

3. Return to forever (No mystery, Return to forever, Hymn of seventh galaxy, Romantic warrior)

4. Zappa (Hot rats, Waka/Jawaka, The grand wazoo, Apostrophe, Jazz from hell...)

5. Colosseum (Live, Valentyne suite, Those about to die salute you)

6. Gong (Shamal, Gazeuse, Espresso II))

7. Passport (Looking thru, Cross colaterall)

8. Billy Cobham (Crosswinds, Spectrum)

9. Herbie Hancock (Headhunters, Man child)

10. Alan Holdswort (Metal fatigue, I.O.U.,Secrets)

11. Soft machine (Third album, IV, V)

12. Brand X

13. Jaco Pastorius (Invitation, Curtain call)

14. Bill Bruford

15. Eumir Deodato (Prelude)

16. National health
 
17. Jeff beck - Wired, Blow by blow


Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 07:15
Tassavallan Presidenti II


Posted By: rushfan6588
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 10:49
i love both feels good to me and one of a kind form bill bruford...i love fusion but i feel many of the albums from the genre are quality most tracks being of equivalent quality, therefore making it difficult to pick a fav. Fusion albums are the best value buy cd or albums because they are reasonably priced and the far majority are high quality, and have multiple good tracks


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 15:25
My personal favourites are;
 
Weather Report- Black Market (peerless album; I only have 'Heavy Weather' otherwise and I don't like that nearly as much- I must get their early work)
 
Soft Machine- Third
 
Mahavishnu Orchestra- Inner Mountain Flame, Birds Of Fire
 
Return To Forever- Romantic Warrior
 
Billy Cobham- Spectrum
 
Herbie Hancock- Headhunters, Thrust
 
Jeff Beck- Blow By Blow
 
Miles Davis- Bitches Brew, Jack Johnson, On The Corner
 
Colosseum- Valentyne Suite
 
 


Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 01:47

  WELL, because COLOSSEUM features in a few lists I'm going to tell you jazz/rock and C fans to go out and get the 'COLOSSEUM LIVES" DVD of their live concerts in Cologne in 1994. It's an excellent package and well worth the money. It also features the late and great Dick Heckstall-Smith and is probably some of the last readily available footage of the great man . Do yourselves a favour!

  Also, early BRAND X up to and including 'Masques' is wonderful stuff. Percy Jones , what a player!
 
  Masterpieces though? What are they, really? [A rhetorical question only].


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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 02:30
anyone heard of  IF.. ??... i always thought they sounded a bit jazz/rock proggy!
 


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 04:59
Rorro
 
Noticed how few have responded to the request to nominate recent jazz rock. There is plenty around, it seems folks don't hear it


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 05:00
If and If2 have been issued by Repertoire Records in repro mini-LP sleeves - might be limited edition, but the price isn't outrageous.


Posted By: bsurmano
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 08:44
Nice to hear about Repertoire reissues; I have first pressing LPs of IF I, II and III as wel as 'Not Just Another Bunch...' This is the band which should be included in PA under Jazz-Rock/Fusion . 

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Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 09:42
Jean Luc Ponty - Imaginary Voyage

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Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 09:49

Jeff Beck's Blow By Blow

Brand X Unorthodox Behaviour

Tony Williams Believe It

Return To Forever Romantic Warrior

Lenny White Adventures of The Astral Pirates

 

For newer stuff - Go directly to Vital Tech Tones, CAB or maybe Vertu. Fragile out of Japan - the musicianship is outstanding. Bon Lozaga or Vic Stevens stuff is great.  Embarrassed


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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 10:37
Another crucial album that seems to be overlooked here is the first Tony Williams Lifetime album "Emergency", with McLaughlin and Larry Young (organ)...this fired the first shot of jazz-rock fusion (after Bitches Brew anyway)...it's repurcussions were inestimable, and even Fripp cites it as his primary inspiration forthe concept of King Crimson.


Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 10:40
Wow!, i definetly must get that album.


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 15:07
I agree about Colosseum's live DVD- it's one of the best in my collection, as the band are truly inspired. The version of 'Valentyne Suite' is jaw dropping, as Clem Clempson plays his best ever solo, imo.
 
 


Posted By: Minkia
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 17:03
'Bitches' Brew' by Miles Davis, 'Caravanserai' by Santana, 'Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy' by Return to Forever, 'Bundles' by Soft Machine, 'Wired' by Jeff Beck, 'Spectrum' by Billy Cobham, 'Hot Rats' by Frank Zappa, the list is endless...    


Posted By: Horlequism
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 18:47
Frank Zappa is the only real jazz rock fusion band that I know...Captain Beyond did some if I'm not mistaken...I probably know more but I don't really know if they are or not...


Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 02:15
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I agree about Colosseum's live DVD- it's one of the best in my collection, as the band are truly inspired. The version of 'Valentyne Suite' is jaw dropping, as Clem Clempson plays his best ever solo, imo.
 
 
 
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Clem was very inspired on this show


Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 07:14
     A little known masterpiece is one called "Arc of the Testimony" by Arcana, a project of Bill Laswell, with the great drummer Tony Williams, recorded shortly before his tragic death of a heart attack. It also features Laswell on bass, Pharoah Sanders on sax, and Buckethead on guitar. It's hard to describe...something like a mix of Crimson and Coltraine, with a deep existential melancholy...truly a monumental, if overlooked gem.


Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 07:31
Secret Oyster from Denmark (70es) are great.If you like Mahavishnu and Return to forever,there's a good chance you'll like this.I just picked up Sea Son from The Lazers Edge who remastered this and put it out on cd for the first time.


Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 09:56
Other additions to the list that I just can't recommend too highly:

Bill Bruford - Feels good to me
Gong - Expresso II
Pat Metheny Band - Travels   


Posted By: arnold stirrup
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 22:32
Some of my faves:

Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
Miles Davis - In A Silent Way
Naked City - Naked City
Weather Report - Mysterious Traveller
Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame
Soft Machine - Third
Bruford - One Of A Kind
Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Time Is The Key
Dixie Dregs - What If

And many, many more...





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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 00:52
I am surprised no one mentioned 'Blood, Sweat and Tears' first album (1968).  Talk about a fusion of jazz and rock!


Posted By: shanocles
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 08:20

Area - Crac!

Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner Mounting Flame

Arti e Mestieri - Gravita

Frank Zappa - Hots Rats
(some may not agree with this as fusion)

Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Lost Trident Sessions

Chick Corea - Live In Molde (wouldn't consider this a masterpiece as its a live recording, but i really like it)



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Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 09:20

Ithink THE fusion Group is he mahavishnu Orchestra. And their albums with the first line-p are absolutely essential: Inner mounting Flame and Birds of fire. The albums with Ponty are good as well, but the ones cited are terrific!

I have some concerns about Weather Report. Too jazzy for my tastes. Black Market and Heavy Weather are good.

Return to Forever: from Hymn to the 7th galaxy (brilliant) to No mystery you have only winners! I'll listen to Romantic warrio one of these days, but my expectations are very high base on DiMeola's work in his Return to Forever previous albums and solo career.

talking about DiMeola: someone above cited his initial 4 solo albums as masterpieces, and I must agree. Land of the Midnight Sun, Elegant gypsy, Casino and Splendido Hotel are fantastic.

Jean-luc Ponty has one fantastic live album from 1979 that is a wonderful collection of his best pioeces till that day.

Miles' Bitches brew is the stone that sustains the fusion genre. Absolutely essential.

Esperanto's Danse Macabre is a good album too. The vocal aren't really necessary, but they don't dstroy the album like in its imediate sucessor, Last Tango. What an awful voice!

Shakti: some people doesn't consider this group as fusion, and the term world music is more apropriate really. But the jazz spirit is present in all its works. I consider ALL their albums brilliant, and add the Remeber Shakti albums to the same level of excellence.

Santana: his album with John MacLaughlin - Love Devtion Surrender - is totally fusion, and is a true masterpiece. Santana's trip into jazz rock is represented in his albums after his Buddy Miles album and before Amigos. Lotus is a good representant of Santana's live work in the seventies, and it has a free spirit in its versions of early classics of Latin Rock.

 

As I said before, jazs isn't my fav style. So this is my experience with the fusion genre till now. Thanks for your recomendations. I hope mine could be useful for any of you. 

 



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Posted By: cucacola54
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 12:05
Iceberg - Sentiments
Area - Maledetti
Chick Corea - Return to Forever


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Posted By: TOD KREMER
Date Posted: May 18 2006 at 23:08
I agree with Blood Sweat and Tear's first album as being a commonly overlooked high caliber album in this genre. 
 
Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour is my favourite.  T



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