The Best Songwriting Band
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Topic: The Best Songwriting Band
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Subject: The Best Songwriting Band
Date Posted: May 09 2006 at 21:40
And that's how this began. So, who do you think the best songwriters are? My bid is for Pink Floyd all the way. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 02:13
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Rush
I think what alot of people miss about this band is how well the words and music work together. The music and words seem to be about the same thing. The songs are very cinematic, if you close your eyes and listen you get the picture very clearly, at least I do. Thats the main reason you don't see covers of their songs, because they've already created the definitive version. They would be hard to reinterpret because they would lose too much in the process.
Yes and Genesis both come close to this but the music seems to create a mood that supports the words rather than actually be about the same thing. ------------- "The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 02:56
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Pink Floyd and Genesis, in my opinion, are the best in creating moods: they really can conjure up an atmosphere.
King Crimson are also good at this job, but they often lose themselves in pointless, lengthy and rather boring exercises in self-indulgence (Providence, Starless and Bible Black, Requiem, Industry, B'boom, Thrak to name a few...) ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 07:43
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Rush and Genesis for me. Thats why they are my favourote bands. Quality songs more than anything else. Just my opinion of course.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 08:12
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Gabriel era Genesis have some amazing lyrics, Pink Floyd is another band that was short on lyrical tallent, DT's Awake (dont laugh) has some of my favourit lyrics on as well. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 08:18
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I'd have to say Genesis as well, after all they started off as a songwriting collective with no intent of performing their own stuff. ------------- |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 11:51
| Rush and Pink Floyd for me. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 12:07
| bloody Gentle Giant! Albums full of incredibly addictive, funky songs with none of the lazy "atmospheric" sections of which Floyd were so guilty, and way less predictable than Rush. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 12:36
I wouldn't say Rush are that predictable. I mean who could have predicted that a band who recorded 2112 would go on to record something like 'Hold your fire'?  ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 12:43
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Gentle Giant, VDGG, Frank Zappa, Supertramp, Genesis ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 12:45
| Genesis, Frank Zappa, Pink floyd had great lyrics |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 15:07
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Frank Zappa has the best lyrics, 2nd would be Hammil. Caravan were quite good at catchy tunes (In The Land Of Grey And Pink, vocal sections of Nine Feet Underground). To me, however, King Crimson has the best songs in it's repertoire. Epitaph, with music that fits the lyrics completely - and a guitartune that jumps right in when Lake's shouting out "Knowledge is a deadly friend". Book Of Saturday, with the fade-in guitar fading out at the end (o_O) and the clean guitar that can be so slow yet so fast too. Genesis are very good too, but they lack something Genesis have. Yes only is good on the songs Close To The Edge and And You And I (from what I've heard of them). Pink Floyd are good on certain songs - Echoes for example, and Mason's vocal line on "One Of These Days". But still, King Crimson hold the top for me. Perhaps this will change when I hear more of PFM - what I've heard by now is marvellous. ------------- http://www.soundclick.com/rosescar/ - My music! "THE AUDIENCE WERE generally drugged. (In Holland, always)." - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 17:36
??? VdGG for me. Hammill's lyrics are simply amazing and the music is not flowery or overblown and completely fits the music as well. Don't know much Genesis I'm afraid. -------------   
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Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 17:52
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I like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum's song structures. They don't musically wander around, while gluing together one musical idea after another *cough*DreamTheater*cough.* At the same time though, they don't stick with the traditional Intro/verse/chorus (on most of their songs). As for chord structure, they use a lot of dissonance. Sometimes it almost reminds my of Paul Hindemith in the way they use things like 4th's and 5th's as well as Major 9th's and other strange intervals. They also use plenty of semi-tonic dissonance. ...Moving on to rhythmical structure... Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is the only band that I've heard that managed to pull off the time signature of 15/8 and make it sound natural (on their song "Sleep is Wrong"). Apart from all that, they use several home-made instruments including the "electric pancreas" and the "slide piano" as well as more traditional instruments such as guitar, bass and drums. This gives an added color to their music that you wouldn't normally hear in any other band. This adds a refreshing feeling to what they do. ------------- 
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Posted By: DiAnno
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 17:54
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Well, we've wrote genesis so many times we could bring down a server, but I have to step aside from the very mainstream curse taken here and add some more "heavy" masters- Arjen Lucassen is a very skilled mood creator, the "Karmakanic" project takes well on pulling thru an album and as predictable as it is, Eric Clayton's religius epica, troughout "Saviour Machine"'s works does the trick very well. ------------- Please Don't forget to Rock Hard. |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: May 10 2006 at 18:53
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Pink floyd before The Wall. Floyd never relied on musicianship or flashy playing. They relied on arrangements, lyrics, and concepts. Before the wall all the band members contributed to the writing process, making them a songwriting 'band' rather a group with one really good songwriter. -------------  
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