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Topic: 10,000 Days: Triumphant Comeback?
Posted By: crucify_the_ego
Subject: 10,000 Days: Triumphant Comeback?
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 11:52
Thought I'd see what the rest of the forum thought of the album. Yes, there is another poll regarding this album, but it's more about how you thought the album would turn out.

I personally see it as a triumph equal to Lateralus.



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Posted By: SomethingGood
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 11:59
i never thought lateralus was as amazing as everyone makes out (maybe i needed to listen to it more), but i absolutely love 10,000 days. brilliant album

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Posted By: Tasartir
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 12:22
I've given it a couple of listens by now and cannot rank it among Lateralus...maybe because I've put Lateralus in a throne...The album is good but I can't say it's as good as the spiritual Lateralus....gees....can you guys believe that maybe these guys will make us wait 5 more years for their next release? Will I go crazy?

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 12:51
Right now I think it is equal to Lateralus,but not better.It is very different from Lateralus though.

I have to listen to it some more,my opinion might change over time.


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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 12:55
I need to get that album!!!

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 13:12
Different, but equally good as Lateralus.
 
BTW: I don't think it's a "comeback" ... they just took their time. Comeback would imply that they released some mediocre albums in between Lateralus and this one, which they did not.


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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 13:15
I like it worse than Lateralus so far... but a solid effort nonetheless.
 
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Posted By: bctruce
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 13:21
I connected with 10,000 better than Lateralus, so it gets a slight nudge.


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 13:23

Above I said "different" ... more specifically, I think it's a bit less progressive than Lateralus. I'm sure that many people expected another concept album, instead they made a mixed album with a very loose concept and really different moods and sounds. IMO that was a very good decision. 



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Posted By: Oxygen Waster
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 13:26
I loved it!!!
Wether I like it more than Lateralus,well I dont know.Each album has such qualities as to make you love them all on their own respected level.


Posted By: crucify_the_ego
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 13:28
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

BTW: I don't think it's a "comeback" ... they just took their time. Comeback would imply that they released some mediocre albums in between Lateralus and this one, which they did not.


Point taken, I just thought "comeback" sounded more dramatic than "return"Big smile.

So was there anyone who liked Lateralus but disliked 10,000 Days?


Posted By: Equimanthorn
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 14:12
i really think this album sucks and rips off a different tool idea from their previous catoluge in every new song.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:24
I like 10000 Days but I dont think its quite as good as Lateralus, but not far off.

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Posted By: alioshak
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 15:57
It's just my thought, but i believe that 10,000 days is more than Lateralus... it has more of the dark-depressive sound atmosfere, more tense...


Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 16:06
Although all TOOL albums are exceptional, I think 10,000 Days is definately their most mature and emotional album to date.  I love it more and more each time I listen to it!


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 16:50
I've not listened to it nearly enough to have a firm opinion, but it is very good so far.

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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 17:13
Where's just another Tool album/judge each album according to its own merits poll button?
 
Check to ^.


Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 17:58
Not as good. Lateralus is a Jewel; 10.000 days is a bit inferior. Plus, I heard somewhere that the next TOOL album was supposede to be a colaboration between Maynard and Reznor. I don't see it... that would be interesting.

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 18:00
I think it's about as good, but I totally need to listen to it more... I don't think it's grown on me enough yet.

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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 18:01
A sub par guitarist , a singer with 2 octaves max , songs that all make one want to commit suicide without a hint of positivety , a blind fan base largely run by  teenagers without direction in their lives, "Yes we know its nothing new its just a waist of time who cares about that silly tool who seem to decide prog rocks plan". Wink

I listened but once again I didn`t enjoy


Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 18:10
Ænima, Lateralus and 10,000 Days are all worth four stars. But, I believe Ænima > Lateralus > 10,000 Days.


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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 18:29
Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Not as good. Lateralus is a Jewel; 10.000 days is a bit inferior. Plus, I heard somewhere that the next TOOL album was supposede to be a colaboration between Maynard and Reznor. I don't see it... that would be interesting.


You're probably referring to the now defunct Tapeworm project.  One of such planned tracks can be heard on A Perfect Circle's last album Emotive as the track 'Passive'. Next up for Tool I believe is a concept album a la The Wall.  Danny Carey has stated such in interviews before 10K's release.  And I say to the band: forget The Wall, make sometime a la The Lamb.   Also I've heard that the Lateralus DVD has also been scrapped.

Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

A sub par guitarist , a singer with 2 octaves max , songs that all make one want to commit suicide without a hint of positivety , a blind fan base largely run by  teenagers without direction in their lives, "Yes we know its nothing new its just a waist of time who cares about that silly tool who seem to decide prog rocks plan". Wink

I listened but once again I didn`t enjoy


Bands that 'make one want to kill oneself' can only be blamed on the listener's psyche.  If that's the case, you should have a field day with NIN's and VDGG's output.  I love your generalizations, to refute: every band has a teenage fan; many people are 'directionless'; every band have a positive outlook depending on who you are.  Good day.


Posted By: moose inspector
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 18:52
Better in my opinion.

VERY atomspheric


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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 19:44
10,000 Days, to me, is a slower more boring version of the previous Tool albums.

I did not think Lateralus was as good as Undertow or Aenima, but I pretty much think that Tool left nothing to be desired after those albums.  There was little they could with the style except to polish it...which they did on Lateralus, and it lacked the grit of the previous two albums.  It had a couple of great tracks, but largely just more of the same.  10,000 Days is more of more of the same.

The only desire I had after 10,000 Days was to listen to 4 Degrees on Undertow.


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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 20:42

Easily their best album and easily the best metal album I have ever heard. the 2-part epic "wings" has to be the best song they ever did. It moves me and it is brilliant! I also love the grooves and catchiness missing in lateralus like the intro of "The Pot" (killer bass riff) and the chorus of Right in two.

I don't think it's more of the same at all! They added so many new elements in this album!
 
However, I still cannot digest fully Jambi and Lost Keys/Rossetta Stone.  


Posted By: Oxygen Waster
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 22:12
Originally posted by CaincelaOreinim CaincelaOreinim wrote:

Where's just another Tool album/judge each album according to its own merits poll button?
 
Check to ^.
I was looking for that button too!Confused
Judging an album by its predecessors is very blinding in my opinion...Although the poll is sorta asking if you like it better or worse than the others.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 23:07
10,0000 dAYS COMPLETELY SUCKS


Posted By: Matt Dickens
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 23:09
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

A sub par guitarist , a singer with 2 octaves max , songs that all make one want to commit suicide without a hint of positivety , a blind fan base largely run by  teenagers without direction in their lives, "Yes we know its nothing new its just a waist of time who cares about that silly tool who seem to decide prog rocks plan". Wink

I listened but once again I didn`t enjoy
 
 
Well that is quite a statement however I happen to fall into the category of peopleyou have dexcribed and it may be easy for you with hindsight to prey upon teenagers who have not figured every last detail of life such as all the older geniouses like yourself, who must be perfect. why else would you have the right to criticise an extrordinarily talented group of people and their fans as well. And obviously you havent paid a bit of attention to the message of the entire Lateralus album which is very positive and optimistic. And oh my god can any one belive the fact that Im sixteen years old and havent found my exact direction in life. How dare I not be born with an agenda in my mind of what I am supposed to do and what other humans I will tear down from now until the end of time. Maybe I should stop listening to tool and start trying to be more like you sir. Ive always wanted to end up being a bitter old man. I dont know if you are an old man but you seem to be. I personally dont beleive in god but if I did I would take the time to pray that I never end up like you.


Posted By: GFoyle
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 02:05
I love it and a rate it equal to Lateralus. I actually have really hard time to put Tool (full) albums in order, they are all different and I love each one.




Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 07:14
 Tool just get better and better each time, although it took me a while to like Lateralus just a tiny bit more than Aenima.But after the first spin 10000 Days beats them both.At last (unlike some reviewers have said) Maynards vox have been mixed up front of the instruments.That man has to be one of the most versatile prog singers on earth.Accapella(The Pot) or death scream he can do it all with emotion.It is nice to hear Adam and Justin experimenting with their sound more.And Danny.......

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 09:40
Cry of the Carrots and Masque,I deleted your last two posts in this thread.

Please watch your language,and be a little more respectful of other peoples opinions and tastes,however different they are from your own.


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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 09:55
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Cry of the Carrots and Masque,I deleted your last two posts in this thread.

Please watch your language,and be a little more respectful of other peoples opinions and tastes,however different they are from your own.
Sorry, mine was a play on Hooker with a Penis! a JokeEmbarrassed Allthough I do get a bit miffed with slurs and generalisations towards a perceived fan base age group.Probably a good thing I didn't see the reply.


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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 10:53
Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Cry of the Carrots and Masque,I deleted your last two posts in this thread.

Please watch your language,and be a little more respectful of other peoples opinions and tastes,however different they are from your own.
Sorry, mine was a play on Hooker with a Penis! a JokeEmbarrassed Allthough I do get a bit miffed with slurs and generalisations towards a perceived fan base age group.Probably a good thing I didn't see the reply.
I was playing too .   Smile


Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 11:15

In order to fully appreciate 10,000 Days you need to listen to the album at least four or five times all the way through.  Each time I listen to it all the way through I love it more each time!



Posted By: apostle
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 11:33
Yes the album has definately grown on me with each listen, but it just isnt as good as Lateralus. All tool deserves 4-5 stars.

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Posted By: mortem
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 11:58
Okay ppl, I find 10k days a bbbbbbit inferior to Lateralus, but I voted 'Great, equal to Lateralus.' since the difference in my opinion is really small. This is an amazing album, the only problem I have with it are some of Maynard parts (eg, The Pot intro). Anywho, this is a MUST HAVE people!!!

5/5 Thumbs Up


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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: May 04 2006 at 13:15
My first impression of the album was that I was glad it was different from lateralus.  At the moment I would say that it is a fabulous album, but lateralus still strikes me as the better work.  However, I'm liking it more and more each time i listen to it, so my opinion will probably change over time.  

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 14:21
Yes, i havent heard it yet... but its a triumphant comeback.. since here in PA have been lots of 10000 days reviews, and also Aenima, Laterallus and themost of the Tool´s album...

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Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 21:32
no need to rate them for me using >'s, i enjoy them all the same :\


Posted By: Deadwing12
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 21:37
10,000 days is definately a lot different than Lateralus. The focus seems to be more on creating moods and textures (Wings 1 and 2, Intension, Rosetta Stoned) than on metal riffery (like Lateralus' Ticks and Leeches, The Grudge, Schism, etc.) Guess it all depends on what I'm in the mood for, but as of right now I prefer 10,000 Days.

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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 21:42
Originally posted by Masque Masque wrote:

A sub par guitarist , a singer with 2 octaves max , songs that all make one want to commit suicide without a hint of positivety , a blind fan base largely run by  teenagers without direction in their lives, "Yes we know its nothing new its just a waist of time who cares about that silly tool who seem to decide prog rocks plan". Wink

I listened but once again I didn`t enjoy


Since it's quite clear to everyone at this point that you have no _desire_ to like Tool in the slightest, how about you stop bashing them with your redundant posts on the topic? Oh, and it's spelled waste.

So far, IMO, 10,000 Days is a great album - but it's slightly inferior to Lateralus. My opinion might change with repeated listens, however.


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