Do you care for PG's solo career?
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Topic: Do you care for PG's solo career?
Posted By: Hierophant
Subject: Do you care for PG's solo career?
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 01:05
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I was just wondering if any of you cared for peter gabriels solo stuff.
Theres alot of talk about how big bad Phil sold out, not much about
gabriel's popped out stuff. Do you like it? Do you consider it prog? Just wondering ------------- 
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Posted By: andYouandI45
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 01:15
| Only Soulsbury Hill, I don't like much other than that. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 01:18
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This is the second time I have seen a reference to some of Gabriel music as pop, or a sell out. It may seem that way in retrospect. But I remember hearing each of his albums before they caught on. Each time I was pleased that his music sounded unlike anyone else's. I thought that the general public was guilty of having good taste for a change, and that is why he scored some big hits. (Pink Floyd and Yes were also able to do this.) His music may have been more world beat than prog, but it was still unique. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Alpine Jones
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 01:30
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His solo stuff is better than good. It is amazing. You cannot judge his solo career until you hear Us, Up, and the Passion. Even if it does not sound like traditional prog, his incredible musicianship is always present. He is easily one of the greatest composers of the 20th century, ------------- Support your Local Record store. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 01:37
Lets do a bit of history:
Peter left Genesis and releases PG 1, 2 and 3, all excellent albums, softer than what he did in Genesis, but still very related to Prog, until that point ther's no selling out.
Then he starts to work in WOMAD, he risks his lat penny in a non commercial and artistic project created to promote music from different parts of the world, the event is a success but a finantial disaster, his ex-bandmates prepare the Milton Keynes reunion to help him.
He releases PG IV and So where he adds some commercial tracks as Shock the Monkey and Sledgehammer, yes poppy, but still the whole concept and video is advanced for his time, when he's back on his feet again he starts to explore the fusion of ethnic influences in his music (Listen Passion, a true masterpiece), and each album is better than the previous.
If you consider he sold out, then it's ok for you, but I don't think so.
Iván ------------- 
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Hierophant wrote:Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 02:09
| I don't. I find each album worse than the one before. Actually, I only enjoy some songs in the first record. I don't think "sold out" is the right word, though. He had the right to change his music, but that new style leaves me totally cold . I gave his poppy stuff many chances, since he was one my early icons. I even saw him live in 1980. But the magic was gone forever ( at least for me ). |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 02:41
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since peter gabriel left genesis he has left them very far behind - his expertly crafted music is truly progressive in modern terms, very deep and emotional, covering heartbeaking and topical themes, and mixing traditional rock with world music - very successfully in my opinion. i saw him live around 83/84 and he was absolutely awesome, one of the best gigs i have ever seen. in years to come he will be seen as one of the true pioneers of rock, and sound technology well ahead of his time, and he continues to break new ground.
Peter never "sold out", it was the rest of genesis who "sold out" in the end. -------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 02:43
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Peter Gabriel is one of the most talented and original songwriters, singers and performers EVER!
To me each new production of his is a pure joy! Ok, when I first heard Ovo it was a bit of a letdown, but in the long run I appreciate it! I'm not saying each new release is better than the preceding ones, but they mantain an excellent standard of quality, wittingly mixing prog, ethno and straight-pop-rock elements! Us is simply great! ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 03:01
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He is absolutely amazing. His studio albums are amongst the best solo
albums ever released (especially 3, 4, So, and Up), his sound tracks
are interesting, and his live albums brilliant. A few of his songs are
a bit more pop-oriented (what's wrong with that?), but still high
class. My all-time favourite artist by quite some distance.
------------- Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 03:11
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I like his solo work.
Esspecialy 1,3 and 4 album.
Here comes the flood is epic song.
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 05:19
| In the early 80's - a period of musical decline - Peter Gabriel was pushing the boundaries of rock and to me was the future of rock and the only one (besides King Crimson) I relied on making great, progressive music. Unfortunately he didn't fulfill my expectations after Birdy but continued to sporadically make some great albums - most recently, 'UP'. So, yes I very much care about his solo works, especially II-IV. |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 12:10
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I'll put it this way. There are very few artists I would buy unheard and totally on faith. Peter is one of them. He always intrigues and fascinates me and that's all I can ask for from a creative musician. He is unlike any other on the planet. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 15:23
| To be honest, I'd say the one album of his that really stood up, imo, was his superb eponymous 3rd album. Other than that, I find some of his albums rather disappointing. The compilation 'Shaking The Tree' is superb though- pretty much every track worth having is included on that, imo. I thought the sparse, piano and vocal only version of 'Here Comes The Flood' was a great improvement. |
Posted By: Psychedelia
Date Posted: April 29 2006 at 18:05
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Peter Gabriel's solo stuff is practically as good as his Genesis work. All the albums are uniquely wonderful. Peter Gabriel two is definately his best. Songs like Indigo and Mother of violence are just superb
------------- Another emotional suicide, overdosed on sentiment and pride |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 06:49
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Prog pop perhaps?
I like his first three albums, but they dont exactly blow me away. Far superior to Collins solo efforts though. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 06:51
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I love Peter Gabriel as an entire...therefore,his solo carrier also...I find it wonderful... plus,first for me was Gabriel...then Genesis...  
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 12:36
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Peter Gabriel is perhaps the unique musician/band whose '80's-'90's work I love even more than his '70's works... (Genesis period excluded, especially albums from Trespass to SEbtP are simply amazing....) by the way, I believe he should be included in "Art Rock" section (of which he is a perfect example for the whole genre, along with Styx, Journey, Supertramp etc..) rather than the obscure "Prog Related"... I mean, if he's prog related just because he was an ex-Genesis member, why not include Phil Collins?!?? (let no one take this serious, please!) If anyone has hard time understanding how PG is prog (and not just "related"), please listen to "Us" and "Secret World Live" albums once again, and once more for justification P.S: ricochet, I like the Klaus Schulze pictures in your signature! ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 14:48
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I think PG's solo output is "progressive" in the true sense of the word, blending diverse influences to create something unique, further enhanced by his inimitable vocals. I saw him live in 1983, when his fantastic fourth album (possibly his best) had just been released. It was utterly stunning - with Tony Levin on bass on top of everything else.
It's true that he's made a few "poppier" songs like "Sledgehammer" or "Shock the Monkey", but IMHO they are miles better than anything Phil Collins has ever done under his own name.
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 14:59
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Gabriels solo career stuff is totally worthwhile. He had the best solo career next to Steve Hackett. Regardless if it's "prog," "pop" or "prog pop," it's good. A true innovator. |
Posted By: Nanook
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 21:44
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Whatever his music is called, I consider myself a fan of it. Prog-related works for me, but the label is not important. Good music is good music. So is one of my 'desert island discs.' I bought it back when it was released, and still listen to it regularly. Us is damn near as good to my ears, and gets almost as much play. He is one of the few artists I will buy without having heard a single note. He's that good. |
Posted By: Heino
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 13:27
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When Gabriel was in Genesis they made interesting and beautiful music. All of his solo records I have heard are dull and he doesn´t sing so emotianally anymore, witch is sad, because he could have done it much better. With Genesis after Gabriel´s departure this is the most disappointing thing along with Banks´s humble solo records |
Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: May 24 2006 at 14:02
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I really enjoy the bulk of Gabriel's solo releases, even "So". PG II is
the weakest of his solo releases I've heard. PG III (Melting Face) is a
fantastic album, as is Security, IMO. I do feel like he's become slightly homogenized-sounding, almost bland, from "Us", onwards. Granted, I haven't heard "Up" from beginning to end (I have heard good things about it). ------------- Pure Brilliance: 
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Posted By: dabaynton
Date Posted: May 25 2006 at 14:01
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Gabriel is one of the select bands/artists that I make a point of always buying whenever there's a new release. He's always 'spot on' with his albums. ------------- Shines On Brightly, Quite Insane....... |