Is it rude?(Hammill)
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Topic: Is it rude?(Hammill)
Posted By: Snow Dog
Subject: Is it rude?(Hammill)
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 06:27
Is the cover of Prter Hammills The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage rude? Is it in fact pornographic.?
http://www.gaudela.net/vdgg/covers/the_silent_corner-1a.jpg - http://www.gaudela.net/vdgg/covers/the_silent_corner-1a.jpg
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 06:41
I can`t see anything wrong with it ?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 06:43
^ So whats going on then?
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 07:49
Hmm, not sure about that.
Reminds me of when someone told me the inside photo of Tangerine Dream's Rubycon was rude.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:04
chopper wrote:
Hmm, not sure about that.
Reminds me of when someone told me the inside photo of Tangerine Dream's Rubycon was rude. |
Never heard that one. But this cover looks like some ladies arse with a dildo stuck up her stairway to heaven!
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:23
I'm sure that the baldies will be able to clear this question up. Snowdog, if you can see anything pornographic in that picture you've got a filthier mind than mine, which I didn't believe was physically possible. I don't know whether to congratulate you or recommend stirring bromide into your morning cuppa...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:35
Syzygy wrote:
I'm sure that the baldies will be able to clear this question up. Snowdog, if you can see anything pornographic in that picture you've got a filthier mind than mine, which I didn't believe was physically possible. I don't know whether to congratulate you or recommend stirring bromide into your morning cuppa... |
I've been thinking this about this album cover for ever so long. I had to get it out there!
I'd better go for the bromide. 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:42
Snow Dog wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
I'm sure that the baldies will be able to clear this question up. Snowdog, if you can see anything pornographic in that picture you've got a filthier mind than mine, which I didn't believe was physically possible. I don't know whether to congratulate you or recommend stirring bromide into your morning cuppa... |
I've been thinking this about this album cover for ever so long. I had to get it out there!
I'd better go for the bromide.  |
Bromide? That's not what they normally do to dogs to control their "urges". 
Something involving 2 bricks, I believe.
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Posted By: Duncan
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:55
How about the back and inside covers? http://www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk/silentc.htm - http://www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk/silentc.htm
They ARE kind of, um...
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 10:30
I`m going to take another look
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 10:31
All I can see is a Kite flying upside down ?
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 11:13
I can't seem to make anything out of it.
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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 11:35
I see it now
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 11:40
Masque wrote:
I see it now  |
I've been seeing it for months!
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 11:47
Don't see it. That may be a good thing.  EDIT: Nevermind...
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 11:50
I am almost ashamed to be the only one to think like Snowie here
Yes this cover always did seem pornographic to me too 
just imagine the white parts being in flesh color 
And I am not so sure it was accidental 
Jean and Friede???? 
I will try to speed up my reading of VDGG's book so I get to that part 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 11:57
Thanks Sean...you check it out!
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Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 12:22
Snow Dog wrote:
chopper wrote:
Hmm, not sure about that.
Reminds me of when someone told me the inside photo of Tangerine Dream's Rubycon was rude. |
Never heard that one. But this cover looks like some ladies arse with a dildo stuck up her stairway to heaven! |
It looks like a young boy wearing a string to me.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 13:46
Does anyone know what's really on the cover?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 13:49
I wish someone knew. I want to have a different image in my mind.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 14:25
I don't see anything wrong with it.
I just don't see what you see Ian.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 14:55
To me, it looks like a valve that's attached to a blow-up cushion or something. That's what I've always thought. The edges look like the edge of a Whoopee Cushion, it's the same rubber material. Maybe it's a blow up rubber cushion?
Don't ask me what that has to do with the album... I have no clue!
Found this on an Amazon review:
Finally, a word on the cover, which looks like one of his blandest
until you open up the gatefold LP to reveal an extraordinary drawing
(not included in the CD issue) of what appears to be a kind of
landscape/building/temple object which, when you squint your eyes and
look at it again, turns out to be EXTREMELY obscene. Clearly, the most
depressing man in Britain had a wry sense of humour!
I think Snowie maybe onto something!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 03:31
Geck0 wrote:
To me, it looks like a valve that's attached to a blow-up cushion or something. That's what I've always thought. The edges look like the edge of a Whoopee Cushion, it's the same rubber material. Maybe it's a blow up rubber cushion?
Don't ask me what that has to do with the album... I have no clue!
Found this on an Amazon review:
Finally, a word on the cover, which looks like one of his blandest until you open up the gatefold LP to reveal an extraordinary drawing (not included in the CD issue) of what appears to be a kind of landscape/building/temple object which, when you squint your eyes and look at it again, turns out to be EXTREMELY obscene. Clearly, the most depressing man in Britain had a wry sense of humour!
I think Snowie maybe onto something!
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I wrote my doubts in my review of this abum back two years ago!! But I habe been thinking of this for some ten years now 
You are completely right about the inner gatefold which is clearly a masked vagina >> which more than likely accreditates that the outside cover is what I think it is 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 17:09
Erm, I only have the CD release, so I'm unaware of the inside cover... can somebody point me to a link (I'm not asking for it posted up here of course)?
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 17:12
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 17:39
Geck0 wrote:
Erm, I only have the CD release, so I'm unaware of the inside cover... can somebody point me to a link (I'm not asking for it posted up here of course)? |
here, you lazy bugger!
http://www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk/silentc.htm - http://www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk/silentc.htm
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Posted By: Igha
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 18:31
I've always saw it as a part from a neuron's body 
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/brain-neuron.gif
But well, I guess that what you say makes some sense...but I just can't "see" it, I have to add a little bit of imagination 
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 00:46
I got this from the PH/VDGG FAQ page:
http://home.clara.net/rlowther/scorner.jpg - Sleeve (fold): by Betina Hohls. [Henk's interpretation] The white tissue on the front represents a woman's womb, with an egg cell waiting to be fertilized in the blue (the big circle with the monogram).
The little scuba diver in this blue region is the spermatozoa.
The back pictorizes the birth of Hammill in the same setting (take a look at the sunglasses :)
On the inside, a rather suggestive colour pencil drawing is shown ('is there more in this than meets the I?'). The picture looks like a view on a cave with a staircase leading to it through its centre. The cave is lined with folds and there is a drop of blood falling down (a woman's period?).
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Mystery solved! Ah, the wonders of the web!
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 03:38
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 05:00
Peter Rideout wrote:
I got this from the PH/VDGG FAQ page:
http://home.clara.net/rlowther/scorner.jpg - Sleeve (fold): by Betina Hohls. [Henk's interpretation] The white tissue on the front represents a woman's womb, with an egg cell waiting to be fertilized in the blue (the big circle with the monogram).
The little scuba diver in this blue region is the spermatozoa.
The back pictorizes the birth of Hammill in the same setting (take a look at the sunglasses :)
On the inside, a rather suggestive colour pencil drawing is shown ('is there more in this than meets the I?'). The picture looks like a view on a cave with a staircase leading to it through its centre. The cave is lined with folds and there is a drop of blood falling down (a woman's period?).
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Mystery solved! Ah, the wonders of the web!
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Thanks for the explanation for the little scuba diver - I could not figure his role in this - shall we say -
Erotic !! album cover art work. 
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