DREAM THEATER’s 9th!!!
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Topic: DREAM THEATER’s 9th!!!
Posted By: Prog-jester
Subject: DREAM THEATER’s 9th!!!
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 13:56
Well,I've created it  .Just put my fantasies in...
OK,it's going to be neo-prog,but dark and heavy one.Just imagine a mixture of I&W with TOOL/OPETH/PORCUPINE TREE stuff(have I just described RIVERSIDE's style?  )...
It would be a concept story(return to a Formula,when a concept albums always win!!!  ),based on Jester-related stuff(yes,as it usually happens in neo-prog  ).Petrucci would learn to play Rothery-like solos,and Rudess' pianos would sound much darker this time(the whole sound-producing work would be close to Dark Matter/The Dreams of Men one...with some influences from TOOL/OPETH,yes,I've already told that ).
But the songs would be much more complex(just remeber MARILLION's 8-min epics:they had at least 3-4 different parts!!!),instead of wandering around few chords in Stream of Consciousness(don't get me wrong:I like it,but it's quite long  )!
I even give you a tracklist and some comments: DREAM THEATER "CURTAIN CALL" 200? 1.The Breakthrough 10.16 (8th & 9th parts of Portnoy's trip;doesn't relate to album's concept,just starting track) 2.Deep inside the Night 4.38 (instrumental) (a dark and moody PT-like track) 3.Strings 13.52 (a first main epic here,related with puppet's theme - puppet on a string etc )
4.Pieces of my Heart 5.21 (a touching love-ballad,very Neo-prog one!!!) 5.Into the Cradle 3.44 (an acoustical FOLKISH track with violin and flute(JT-like)!!!Yes,a bit experimental for usual DT,but I need it here!!!) 6.Sleepless 11.05 (another epic,very dark and metal this time) 7.Winds 7.33 (a nervous track...dark and complex,unusually stuck inside the Neo-Prog concept album ...)
8.Alone on the Hill 3.27 (a pre-coda track,related to 5th one) 9.Reflection in the Mirror 15.19 (yeah!!!A main stuff here,related to THE MIRROR's theme lyrically and a vintage heavy Neo musically!!!Great ballad coda )
Well...share your thoughts
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 14:06
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I think theyre next album will absolutely be neo-prog. They are trying to
write to a prog audience now. I think it will be forced though and you will hear the annoyance of their restraints. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: lmollea
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 17:17
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mmmm...
The Eight Wonder - VIII introspection. (lyrics Portnoy, music DT). 55 minutes. Single track album. ------------- Semm che, semm che settà giò in del bar / a cercà l'universo nel bucèer del Cynar cosmonauti al tavolino cun la sigareta in bùca / che vemm a cambià el mund apena finissum la sambuca |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 20:36
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I hope their next album will be like Awake or Images & Words again. Though they'll most likely continue in the Octavarium style... Nice prediction, BTW! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: April 19 2006 at 20:38
| I hope they don't make it to a 9th album. |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 00:09
| I hope they return to their origins on the next album. And Prog-jester, nice post !! |
Posted By: Zavgorodny
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 02:50
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from the time Ruddess joined, they wrote (that's purely IMHO) 2 wonderful albums (Metropolis 2 and 6 Degrees) and 2 not-so-wonderful albums (Train and Ocatavarium). I suggest them to hold to a pattern and write 2 complex heavy and wonderful albums. 9th on 2 CDs, and 10th on 4CDs, and maybe 5th bonus disc with single 75-minute instrumental tracks called Dance of Eternity part 2, or something...
------------- yes, I know, my English is far from perfect. I comfortable with it. |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 02:50
Please...NO! ------------- A flower? 
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lmollea wrote:Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 03:41
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Hey, when I was 18, I was writing "fantasy albums" all the time, I even had my preferred fantasy bands ("Hyponotic Horizon", "Operant"), and I was doing the LP sleeves It would be nice to open a section of "unreal prog" in this website |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 06:15
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^ I used to do this too. Chart their career and releases. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 06:22
I still do!  ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 06:29
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That actually sounds appealing. Unfortunately, Dream Theater are
trying their damnedest to "update" their sound by ripping off Muse and
Coldplay. I fully except them to have a couple of Avenged Sevenfold inspired songs on album 9. ------------- ARTEMIA - http://www.reverbnation.com/artemiamusic" rel="nofollow - http://www.reverbnation.com/artemiamusic L.i.E. - http://www.reverbnati |
Posted By: nowayman121
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 07:40
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Thats a pretty cool concept you got there. I don't know what to expect from them, I like Train and Octa, I think this is where they'll be going, heavy, progressive and melodic. It would be amazing if they did another concpet album, its time for one. Now you've mentioned it Octa does have a coldplay and muse sound to it. Maybe it'll have an Opeth, Devin Townsend Pocupine tree influence. I'd like that... Alot. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:06
Me too!!! During the boring lectures in my University...
Some fav imaginary bands: FIDELIO(a GENESIS clone ),SHADOWMIRROR and MAGIC ROUNDABOUT(neo-prog),SHAMEFUL COWARD(weird and dark stuff!a mixture of GG and KC with Post-Rock influences...moody violins,you know...)
TONS of paper spoiled on imaginary discographies,tracklistings and timing...the next step would be a reviews writing I guess .Am I insane? 
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Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:10
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Band should stick to music they actually like (this is general idea - to play music you like, ain't it?) and cut off this "let's please our fans" bullsh*t. ------------- Weasels ripped my flesh |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:11
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Sorry, but that's really lame. -- Ivan |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:14
And all these years since I did this I thought I was lonely and sad!
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 12:36
We should exchange our IMAGINARY BANDS' catalogues!!!MAGIC ROUNDABOUT will soon release their new CD,I think,you'll like it!!!
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Posted By: Lofcaudio
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:07
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Wow...there's a whole level of geekdom out there that I never knew existed. Of course, I'm not going to admit to all of the crazy things I did to pass the time in my younger years. |
Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:11
Count me IN ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/omgwtfdagrush/"> 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 20 2006 at 13:12
 ! I think they'll die by the end of the 10th album if they do that ------------- 
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 07:43
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I wish they did something more experimental, more daring.
Something more original than the last two and something heavier than their latest album.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 07:52
I wish I could, but this was many, many years ago and I've lost all the details. I rember one band was called Flying Colours though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 10:53
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Well,if we'd REALLY exchange our imaginary bands' catalogues,the next step would be to call at MADHOUSE!!! [:xx]
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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: April 23 2006 at 18:21
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Well, why? If DT didn't want to "please their fans", would anyone buy their music? ------------- Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced... |
Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 06:50
I would. I like DT for creativity. "Pleasing fans" sounds very artificial to me, it's like trying to create "SFAM pt. 2" for DT or "Close To The Edge pt. 2" for Yes. I don't like it that way. It's in past, move on. Maybe this is the main reason for my love of Frank Zappa's music. He just didn't give a damn and played music he liked at certain moment in his life. ------------- Weasels ripped my flesh |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 07:32
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I think DT will do something that sounds differant to all their previous albums (as they always do) by doing something new (at least for them). ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Maverick
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 08:20
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Prog-jester - nice forecast!!!
I'm looking forward to buying the 9th studio album by progmetal-mosters Dream Theater. There is no information about it by now, but I think the album will be great once again! These guys are never get tired! ------------- In PROG We Trust |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 08:25
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Posted By: lmollea
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 12:37
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It just came to my mind, that this hypotetical album would be the 10th. IMHO...
1. Wneh dream and Day Unite 2. Images and words 3. Awake 4. A change of seasons <<--- (1) 5. Falling into infinity 6. Metropolis pert II 7. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence 8. Train Of Thought 9. Octavarium (1) I know that A Change Of Season is not strictly a studio album, but an unreleased suit of 23 minutes deserves mention... Of course, IMHO. ------------- Semm che, semm che settà giò in del bar / a cercà l'universo nel bucèer del Cynar cosmonauti al tavolino cun la sigareta in bùca / che vemm a cambià el mund apena finissum la sambuca |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 14:30
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I hope they DON'T try and please their fans (apart from yours truly) and release their heaviest and most experimental and/or technical CD.
Funnily enough, a few months before the release of 'Octavarium' I dreamt I heard the first song from what was, in the dream, supposed to be their eighth album and it was MUCH better than 'The Root of All Evil'. It had an air similar to the 'SDoIT' suite. Damn, I hope they somehow intercepted that dream and record that song.
As a religious person I can only admire and feel humbled by the ardent, zealous, stubborn faith people like these here put into their dislike, maybe even hate of certain artists. How else could one explain the unrelenting determination with which they use every occasion to express their contempt of idols and release pearls of wisdom upon the unenlightened? When I read posts like these I picture people who structure their days around the grim resolve to always combat the shadow cast on this fallen world by the blasphemous adoration the filthy heathens direct unto abominations and perverse satisfaction they derive from this repulsive act. Alas, for my pitiful self cannot comprehend the wisdom brought by these living ic
 ns of faith. I am not worthy that Thou should post in the same thread as I do, for I am sinful, but post Thou first a word and my CD player shall be healed. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 07:22
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Imaginary interview with Mike Portnoy:
"Yes,I think,the work with Akerfeldt and Wilson has influenced somehow on our 9th work...Not only in soundproducing,but also in...What?A DVD?Oh yeah,we're planning a new one.And a re-issue of previous ones with few bonuses,you know..." 
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Posted By: Maverick
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 07:28
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Prog-jester,
It's great! I know about 20the Anniversary DVD, it will be issued soon. But I didn't know about remasters. I wonder, how can they add a few bonuses, if their albums are long. Maybe, bonus disk? That would be great. ------------- In PROG We Trust |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 12:28
IMAGINARY INTERVIEW's continiues: "A new bonuses?Oh yeah,we have few...La Brie growls Take Away my Pain,for instance...and a whole Change of Seasons,sung by me with Derek Sherinian on drums,Kevin Moore on guitar,Jordan Rudess on bass and Charlie Dominici on kybds...Also few versions of classic prog-albums covers...a usual stuff..."
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Posted By: Anguiad
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 18:41
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Pettrucci: "Hey Mike, tell em about my 10 minute solo at ultra fast speed!! Tell em, tell em!"
Portnoy: "Oh, yeah, you heard the guy. But it is nothing that new really, you know, we've heard your solos quite a bit really."
Rudess: "Indeed my bearded friend. If you want soloing and show offs try buying MY next solo album for instance. That is true soloing."
Pettrucci: "C'Mon guys give me a break! That's what I love doing!"
Portnoy: "But we're kinda getting tired..."
LaBrie:"Yeah, I think-"
Portnoy, Pettrucci and Rudess: "Shut up!!!"
LaBrie:"Oh...um..er...so-sorry..."
Myung"..." ------------- "Tis your birth and faith that wrong you...not I." |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 19:14
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Posted By: DrGoon
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 20:17
| The much cited Porcupine Tree started as an imaginary band. I imagined that I was in several imaginary bands when I was young. We had everything except talent and instruments. We even made several tapes. |
Posted By: Sloth
Date Posted: April 30 2006 at 21:34
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I'm gonna say that they should let the man of the group Myung write the lyrics. He's so quiet i'd love to hear what he has to say. But I do agree that they should do another 2-disc like Degrees only they should go back to their Awake roots, and write another dark and disturbing album in the vein of PT or Opeth. I wonder what James would sound like growling? ------------- BUH!!! It's what the Buffalo say! |
Posted By: Mr. Sanchez
Date Posted: May 11 2006 at 08:29
Haha, nicely picked up. If they release another album anything like Octavairum well.... Enough Said. ------------- It's Calling Me Back To My Home. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 05:55
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right from the studio!!!
...Portnoy:"OK,folks,we NEED an album.I've just heard RIVERSIDE's stuff,and it's really nice!" Rudess:"They use rap or hip-hop?" Portnoy:"Nope,they're not" Rudess:"So why do you like 'em?"
Petrucci(listening to RIVERSIDE's solos):"Man,it's way TOO slowly.I just can't play SO slow solos!!!" Portnoy:"Steve Wilson does such solos" Petrucci:"What did you mean?" Portnoy(realising his fault):"Nothing" Petrucci:"Hell no!!!You wanted to say,that..." La Brie(listening to RIVERSIDE):"No,I shan't growl.I have problems with my fans since I sang in MUSE's Bellami-way.Now what will they say?.." Portnoy:"Akerfeldt does such vocals" La Brie:"Do you want to tell us something?" Portnoy:"Ask Myung about it!!!" Myung:"..."
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Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: May 15 2006 at 08:41
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hi im new here..
well i think their new album will be pretty much the same like IAW, cause "a perfect sphere, colliding with the fate, this story ends where it began" so they try to repeat the same, nah, not the same, but, style in IAW, dunno,, lol...  ------------- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spmiw7.jpg"> 
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Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 09:59
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I rember one band was called Flying Colours though ------------- Deafmoon |
Posted By: Abecedarian
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 10:10
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Honestly, I think they should dedicate their ninth studio album to the closing series of their AA-inspired piece ("The Glass Prison," "This Dying Soul," and "The Root of All Evil") by having the concluding installment be just one long conceptual release. I'm sure I'm alone in this suggestion, but personally I think it'd be somewhat of a decent album . . . then again, I liked "Octavarium." ------------- "We'd be fools not to ride this strange torpedo to the end." - Hunter S. Thompson, "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas." |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 16 2006 at 13:08
I doubt it IMO, their style of wrighting has changed an awful lot since I&W, so I cant see their next album being anything like it. |
Posted By: StephanL
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 05:57
| The new album will be more melodic, progressive and technically more exceptional according to Jordan Rudess. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 07:13
Welcome to the Archives!
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 07:19
Nice one. I did a whole biography and discography for a band called Zava some 20 years ago, but the material got lost one of the times I moved to a new house.... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: imoeng
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 08:35
its better this way... i think its just, umm, 4 steps left?? or 6?? ------------- http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spmiw7.jpg">
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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 08:42
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Posted By: Sathvik
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 09:54
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I think that interview deserves its own thread...hahahah.
I personally hope DT is able to find some new interesting direction to go with the next album, show some growth (though its a tad difficult imagining a band like that having much room for growth). I found Octavarium to be a little too much of a mash-up (as well as a bit of a ripoff )...really hope they're able to find a steady new sound in their next album.
One can always dream :o ) ------------- 
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 13:29
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I could understand this being a useful thread if it's discussion for what an individual would like Dream Theater to do, but as far as predicting what Dream Theater will do...that's impossible.
One of the few bands which leaves no indication of their next artistic route is Dream Theater. I have to say, that when Dream Theater releases their latest album, I am always suprised by what I hear. Never could I have predicted what Octavarium was, Six Degrees, or Train of Thought. Rest assured, I have loved everything this band has done.
What would I like to see Dream Theater do? Well let me tell you.
I would like another double album. The first disc featuring more traditional Dream Theater styled metal songs. A lot of six minute shread tunes and a couple cool and dark ballads would be excellent.
The second disc however would be much more ambitious. What I would like to see here would be a more symphonic progressive rock style showing Mike Portnoy's Transatlantic influence. Three epics would be ideal, the longest being about twenty minutes. Full orchestration of course is a dream, but not as much as a dream of guests appearances by Roine Stolt, Andy Tillison, and Neal Morse on vocals is. -------------  
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 14:54
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 16:07
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They need to re-invent themselves. Maybe push the limits of acoustic Prog on a few songs. Portnoy needs a sound factory of pads with fabricated sounds for an industrial effect. Pertucci...well, what hasn't he done? Rudess could get one of those funky organs like Neil Young used on Unplugged for a few songs. How about a stab at Progressive Country...that could be scary though. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 16:27
I thought that there allready was a genra called Progressive Bluegrass or something???
 I wouldn't mind seeing them excersise some Jazz Fusion styled songs (Instrumental of course) I'm sure with the skills they posess they can play some fusion for sure. ------------- 
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Posted By: spacecraft
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 21:14
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Who cares?....I don't
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Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 22:18
| Dream Theater playing dark ambient doom would be pretty cool ;) |
Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 08:38
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please no. I hate neo-prog-metal. (not so aggresively, but..) I would like to have little bit symphonic, but raging, supertechnical, crazy |
Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 15:38
Where did you hear that? I've read a couple of recent interviews with Jordan and John Petrucci, and they both ultimately said they do not know what direction the album will take until they start writing again in the fall. |
Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 07:00
| they don't know. maybe jordan knows everything and make them to decide. it would be nice. i want it to be more melodic and progressive :) |
Posted By: TheLamb
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 07:42
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I can't believe it.... people actually create "fantasy albums". I think it's one of the lamest human activities imaginable... "fantasy albums", give me a break.... get a life.... please...------------- 
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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 12:36
yeah 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 12:45
Some people like to have fun in their spare time. Maybe you can get off your high horse for a second and let people do what they want to without fear of being embarassed by someone who has no reason or authority to hand out such scorn.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 14:08
Word up dog!!! -------------
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 08:06
with Bob Fripp and Frank Zappa(samples) as guests.Don't forget to add 50 Cent or PRODIGY
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