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Topic: ELP without Emerson, Lake and Palmer...
Posted By: progadicto
Subject: ELP without Emerson, Lake and Palmer...
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:16

Let's go back to the early 70's... What would happen if Emerson, Lake and Palmer never met each other??... Free your imagination and think what musicians could replace this famous signature...

Maybe... MWB: Moraz, Wetton and Bruford?...

Maybe... WEC: Wakeman, Enthwistle and Collins?...

Maybe...



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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:18
How about WSS: Wyatt, Shulze, and Stolt?
Should be pretty interesting


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Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:34
WWB: Wakeman, Wetton and Bruford

Wait a minute...


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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 21:01
LOL: Levin,  ... crap there are no musicians with a last name that begins with "O". Seriously, there are none. And Jon  Lord.

Squire, Howe, Wakeman. Oh, wait...

Entwistle, Lord, Peart... ELP!

Would be an interesting combination, probably mostly due to the huge differences between all of them.


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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 21:11
Originally posted by progadicto progadicto wrote:

Maybe... MWB: Moraz, Wetton and Bruford?...


WOW!!! Imagine that!!! It would be my favorite group, Bruford is my fav drummer, Moraz my fav keyboarder and Wetton is my fav bass/singer...that would be great!!!

other...how about
Vangelis, Synclair & Evans...???


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Posted By: Karn Evil 9
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 21:19

Neil Peart, Justin Hayward, and Rick Wakeman.

That would be tight as hell, but of course it would never happen. Its always fun to dream though.

Ronnie James Dio, John Lord, and Cozy Powell is another one that would be cool

Dio used to play bass, but gave up on the second Elf album so he could focus on his singing



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Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 13:07

It probably wouldn't be ELP without the right last names.  Maybe:

Brian Eno (vocals, keys), Kerry Livgren (guitar, keys, bass), and that overrated Neil Peart (drums)

 



Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:35

Originally posted by YYZed YYZed wrote:

LOL: Levin,  ... crap there are no musicians with a last name that begins with "O". Seriously, there are none. And Jon  Lord.

Squire, Howe, Wakeman. Oh, wait...

Entwistle, Lord, Peart... ELP!

Would be an interesting combination, probably mostly due to the huge differences between all of them.

David Oberle of Gryphon? Then you could have:

Levin (bass) Oberle (drums, vocals) Lord (keyboards)

So there!

You could also have Mike Oldfield, Patrick O'Hearn or Ozzy Osbourne.



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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:44
or David O'List from The Nice.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:54

Originally posted by YYZed YYZed wrote:

LOL: Levin,  ... crap there are no musicians with a last name that begins with "O". Seriously, there are none. And Jon  Lord.

I'm extremely depressed you've never heard of Martin Orford. Apart from IQ he's played in John Wetton's band and Jadis.



Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:32
Mani Neumeier, Helmut Hattler, Ingo Bischof would be a good match.
Another idea: Dave Stewart, Pierre Moerlen, Hugh Hopper.


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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:38
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by YYZed YYZed wrote:

LOL: Levin,  ... crap there are no musicians with a last name that begins with "O". Seriously, there are none. And Jon  Lord.

I'm extremely depressed you've never heard of Martin Orford. Apart from IQ he's played in John Wetton's band and Jadis.



My apologies for being a noob.

I'm not a neo-prog fan, and I've never heard Wetton band or Jadis.
 

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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:42
Michael Giles, John Anderson, Neil Young 

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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 17:02

What if Transatlantic was call SMPTe?  Stolt, Morse, Portnoy, and TrEwavas

We can also have Morse, Reingold, and Peart.  That would be pretty cool.



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Posted By: Rockin' Chair
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 17:11

WWP (Wakeman, Wetton and Peart)

or

BLB (Banks, Lee and Bruford)



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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 17:11
Originally posted by YYZed YYZed wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by YYZed YYZed wrote:

LOL: Levin,  ... crap there are no musicians with a last name that begins with "O". Seriously, there are none. And Jon  Lord.

I'm extremely depressed you've never heard of Martin Orford. Apart from IQ he's played in John Wetton's band and Jadis.



My apologies for being a noob.

I'm not a neo-prog fan, and I've never heard Wetton band or Jadis.
 

Oh well.At least you are in the right place to learn! Here's a good link:

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=9833 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=9833



Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 10:46
What about that kind of group:

Vincent Crane + John Wetton + Bill Bruford

or:

Patrick Moraz + Chris Squire + Alan White

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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 15:59
WTF - Rick Wakeman, Pete Trewavas, John French

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Posted By: drumsandbass
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 16:12
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Michael Giles, John Anderson, Neil Young 


Way to go man.

I'd go with Ruddess (keys), Chancelor (bass), Bruford (drums). Prog-metal-
fusion?


Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 17:12

If Emerson, Lake & Palmer had never met...hmmm....then the world wouldn't have had to suffer some of the most overblown, tuneless and egotistical rubbish ever heard. Nothing in their music can be called a) delicate, b) melodic, c) expressive. This band has always had both its supporters, and its detractors. Seldom do people sit on the fence where ELP are concerned! And rightly so! Still probably the worst 'big' prog band I have ever heard. And I've heard quite a bit of their 'stuff', even their so called 'masterpiece' Karn Evil 9, or whatever it is. Totally uninspired and uninteresting drivel. (As you can tell, I am not a fan!) But, each to their own, of course!



Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 18:19
Originally posted by chessman chessman wrote:

If Emerson, Lake & Palmer had never met...hmmm....then the world wouldn't have had to suffer some of the most overblown, tuneless and egotistical rubbish ever heard. Nothing in their music can be called a) delicate, b) melodic, c) expressive. This band has always had both its supporters, and its detractors. Seldom do people sit on the fence where ELP are concerned! And rightly so! Still probably the worst 'big' prog band I have ever heard. And I've heard quite a bit of their 'stuff', even their so called 'masterpiece' Karn Evil 9, or whatever it is. Totally uninspired and uninteresting drivel. (As you can tell, I am not a fan!) But, each to their own, of course!

Blimey its the ghost of John Peel!


Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 18:43
ELB - Eno, Levin, and Bruford.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 04:30
Originally posted by chessman chessman wrote:

If Emerson, Lake & Palmer had never met...hmmm....then the world wouldn't have had to suffer some of the most overblown, tuneless and egotistical rubbish ever heard. Nothing in their music can be called a) delicate, b) melodic, c) expressive. This band has always had both its supporters, and its detractors. Seldom do people sit on the fence where ELP are concerned! And rightly so! Still probably the worst 'big' prog band I have ever heard. And I've heard quite a bit of their 'stuff', even their so called 'masterpiece' Karn Evil 9, or whatever it is. Totally uninspired and uninteresting drivel. (As you can tell, I am not a fan!) But, each to their own, of course!

Ermm..

a) delicate? - Take a Pebble,From The Beginning,The Endless Enigma (into),Fugue,Trilogy (opening bit)

b) melodic?- Plenty of ELP's music has melody but they obviously were'nt The Carpenters

c) expressive? - ELP were one of the most expressive bands.That point is the silliest of the lot.

Truly one of the most ill considered anti -ELP rants I've read on here.



Posted By: pero
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 04:43

CCC

Corea, Clarke, Cobham

WWW

Wakeman, Wetton, White

 



Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 07:01

How about:
Glenn Hughes
Ronnie James Dio
Ritchie Blackmore
Bev Bevan

GRRB.... No!
If the band name would be SATAN (every letter stands for each of the band members names) it would be cool :P



Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 07:14
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by chessman chessman wrote:

If Emerson, Lake & Palmer had never met...hmmm....then the world wouldn't have had to suffer some of the most overblown, tuneless and egotistical rubbish ever heard. Nothing in their music can be called a) delicate, b) melodic, c) expressive. This band has always had both its supporters, and its detractors. Seldom do people sit on the fence where ELP are concerned! And rightly so! Still probably the worst 'big' prog band I have ever heard. And I've heard quite a bit of their 'stuff', even their so called 'masterpiece' Karn Evil 9, or whatever it is. Totally uninspired and uninteresting drivel. (As you can tell, I am not a fan!) But, each to their own, of course!

Ermm..

a) delicate? - Take a Pebble,From The Beginning,The Endless Enigma (into),Fugue,Trilogy (opening bit)

b) melodic?- Plenty of ELP's music has melody but they obviously were'nt The Carpenters

c) expressive? - ELP were one of the most expressive bands.That point is the silliest of the lot.

Truly one of the most ill considered anti -ELP rants I've read on here.

Have to agree with you Richard.



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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 08:58

BLW-Banks, levin, White...

 

no that'd be awful lol



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Posted By: Clark Ashton
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 09:20

Trevor Rabin (yes) - Geoff Downes (yes) - Robert Berry (3)

They would show all other supergroups how to sell their souls, and shamelessly break into the charts.

 

BTW, they would use a drum machine; because those human ones make the music sound too damned organic.



Posted By: akin
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 21:08
I will go with the most obvious:

FKB - Fritz, Köllen and Bathelt




Posted By: akiko
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 23:03

Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Michael Giles, John Anderson, Neil Young 

Sounds GAY to me... 

Legal disclaimer:  No intension of bashing people in the basis of sexual preference. 



Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 23:23
Young
Entwistle
Squire

Trewavas
Howe
Eno
/
Wetton
Hackett
Oldfield




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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 00:01

CWP

TonyCarey, Wakeman, Peart



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 00:02

Fripp, Anderson, Giles



Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 00:29
Mclaughlin
Pastorius
Bruford

MPB-sounds like a jazzy subway sandwhich to me.

or how bout
Fripp (guitar and guitar synths)
Miles Davis (electric wahwah trumpet)
terry bozio (tons of percussion)

Tony WIlliams (incredible percussion)
Kerry Minear (Keynoards cello, viola, percussion)
Kerry Livgren (Bass, Guitar, KEyboards)


Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 03:54

Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Michael Giles, John Anderson, Neil Young 
 HEHEHE  funniest joke of the day



Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 04:04
Originally posted by Karn Evil 9 Karn Evil 9 wrote:

Ronnie James Dio, John Lord, and Cozy Powell is another one that would be cool

Dio used to play bass, but gave up on the second Elf album so he could focus on his singing

WOW!  Wouldn't that have been great? Probably not really prog (more along hard rock lines), but fantastic nevertheless.... As a matter of fact, these musicians played together (even if not ALL together) - Lord and Powell in Whitesnake (and I even saw them live at Donington in '83), Dio and Powell in Rainbow.

Incidentally, as we are speaking of a sort of prog "power trio", has any of you heard the album recorded a few years ago by Judas Priest guitarist Glenn Tipton with Powell and John Entwistle? It's called "Edge of the World" and I've looked for it around, though to no avail.



Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 04:17
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by Karn Evil 9 Karn Evil 9 wrote:

Ronnie James Dio, John Lord, and Cozy Powell is another one that would be cool

Dio used to play bass, but gave up on the second Elf album so he could focus on his singing

WOW!  Wouldn't that have been great? Probably not really prog (more along hard rock lines), but fantastic nevertheless.... As a matter of fact, these musicians played together (even if not ALL together) - Lord and Powell in Whitesnake (and I even saw them live at Donington in '83), Dio and Powell in Rainbow.

Incidentally, as we are speaking of a sort of prog "power trio", has any of you heard the album recorded a few years ago by Judas Priest guitarist Glenn Tipton with Powell and John Entwistle? It's called "Edge of the World" and I've looked for it around, though to no avail.

It sure would have been cool!



Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 13:07

help:

richard harvey

sheila e

alex lifeson

jaco pastorius

 

 



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 13:38

Peart, Moraz & Squire.. PMS

The moodiest band in prog...



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Posted By: Sit Ubu Sit
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 13:43

You can really have a field day with this one -

How about Bruford - Anderson - Rutherford - Flea (BARF)

Yeah, I know, Flea (from the Chili Peppers) isn't prog, but I needed "F"

JS



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 13:51

Anderson, Rothery, Sinfield & Evans... ARSE

They'll be 'right up your alley'



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:12

OK, if we're going to be immature about it:

Bruford, Ulbrich, Moraz - BUM

Bruford, Ulbrich, Moraz, Malherbe, Eno, Rother and Schulze - BUMMERS



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:23
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

OK, if we're going to be immature about it:

Bruford, Ulbrich, Moraz - BUM

Bruford, Ulbrich, Moraz, Malherbe, Eno, Rother and Schulze - BUMMERS

Thats the spirit, Chris! Thats the level of debate we want.. keep it comin' There's got to be loads more where that came from..



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:26
My pleasure Andy! - BTW, can you think of any musicians whose surname starts with 'I'?

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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:28

And while I think about it -

Fripp, Eno, Levin, Capaldi, Hackett - FELCH



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:28

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

My pleasure Andy! - BTW, can you think of any musicians whose surname starts with 'I'?

Not yet, no. 'I' has got me stumped too..



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:33
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

And while I think about it -

Fripp, Eno, Levin, Capaldi, Hackett - FELCH

Oh my God!  

I knew this debate was descending into the basement of bad taste, but I didn't think an educated gentlemen like you would be the one to snap the lift cable...

Ok, if thats how you want it, I'llhave to think of something truly vile

While, of course adhering to the strict PA guidlines on taste and decency. Oh dear, do I hear the stable door banging in the wake of a bolting horse? 



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:41
Better not wait too long Andy - I think this thread could be locked pretty soon! 

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 17 2006 at 14:47

I'm thinking, I'm thinking!!...

Do I hear Tony R loading his deletion gun!



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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 00:19

SEX:

chris squire

sheila e

bernard xolotl



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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 02:17
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Anderson, Rothery, Sinfield & Evans... ARSE

They'll be 'right up your alley'

Plus Hackett,Orford,Lake and Emerson ?



Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 02:23
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Anderson, Rothery, Sinfield & Evans... ARSE

They'll be 'right up your alley'

Plus Hackett,Orford,Lake and Emerson ?

I thought this was without Lake and Emerson though, maybe lee and eno or something.



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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 03:31

 

Maybe: Shulmann, Hendrix, Eno, Entwistle, Tippet - SHEET

 



Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 03:44
I think you only need an I on this one, not two Es... Unfortunately now I can't think of any!


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 05:21
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Anderson, Rothery, Sinfield & Evans... ARSE

They'll be 'right up your alley'

Plus Hackett,Orford,Lake and Emerson ?

 I think Courtney Love may have conered the 'Hole' market though.



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Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 13:43

Just Imagine The beatles without Lennon

 



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Posted By: ElwoodHerring
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 15:27
Hey, Three I's...

John Illsley from Dire Straits
Tommy Iommi from Black Sabbath
Neil Innes from the Bonzos (not prog though)



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 15:31
Well Iommi was briefly in Jethro Tull (you can see him in Rock and Roll Circus) and the first 4 Sabbath albums were kind of prog - he'll do!

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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: April 18 2006 at 15:48

Clapton
Lemmy
Oldfield
Sinfield
Iommi
Nugent ()
Gabriel

Tippet
Hendrix
Isley
SChullze

Trewavas
Hunter
Rothery
Entwistle
Argent
Dio




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