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Topic: Waters Says Yes Gilmour Says No
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Subject: Waters Says Yes Gilmour Says No
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 15:15
I recently read two intervews, one with Dave Gilmour and one with Roger Watere in Guitar Player magazine. Apparently Roger was offered 250 million guranteed for a Pink Floyd reunion and has all of a sudden sort of cooled his jets about previous differences and squables. He even mentioned that he would be interested in playing Dark Side. Dave gave a flat no in his interview and even had to think about last year`s Live 8 appearance. Should Floyd do it again? I doubt I would go. Tickets would be going for a king`s ransom never mind after the scalpers got their paws on them ( Madonna tickets are going for $10,000 a pair from scalpers for a concert in June here in Montreal ). I think Roger needs $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I would however like to see Dave do a solo tour.

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Posted By: bern2
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 15:20
Dave will do a solo tour soon. However, he won't come in Montreal  (I'm from Mtl too)

The closest gig will be in Toronto.


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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 15:25
Dave is on solo tour at moment, saw him live last month. He is accompanied by Rick Wright. Although I did pay a bit to see him... 110€.

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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 15:28
He may really want to do it, but I don't like it how hes always saying he does, and David always say no. Making him look like the bad guy. Also, I can see why Gilmour doesn't want to; he has kids, a family, and hes not not getting any younger as the years go by. A Pink Floyd reunion tour would be HUGE and very time consuming... I'm on Gilmour's side.


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 15:29
Originally posted by bern2 bern2 wrote:

Dave will do a solo tour soon. However, he won't come in Montreal  (I'm from Mtl too)

The closest gig will be in Toronto.
  TORONTO??????????????????????

         &nbs p;     


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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 16:17
LET'S HOPE THEY DO ANOTHER "LIVE8" STYLE CHARITY GIG, THEN WE'LL ALL GET TO SEE THEM!Big smile

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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 16:18
What about Pink Floyd's Reunion without Gilmour? They could take another guitarist substituting for him. At least there would still be three original members...

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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 16:24
^Syd's still alive, why not him?

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 16:24

AS much as I would like to see a full Floyd re-union, I would not pay silly buggers money to see them, especially in some ridiculous huge venue like Earls Court, where they look like ants on the stage.

 



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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 16:35
You all seem to be missing one thing - Roger Waters does not belong to Pink Floyd, he left in 1987! So if a Gilmour-less reunion does take place it would have to be brokered by either Mason or Wright to begin with. Neither of these two seem to me to be much of an organiser.

It's probably academic anyway. Wright is well aligned to Gilmour as a member of his touring band and playing on his album. Mason is now aligned to Waters it seems, and will be joining his band for an apparently one-off performance of Dark Side Of The Moon at the French GP during the summer. Waters is doing a number of shows this year (not really a tour but a selection of one-off shows and festivals). It sounds a bit like Waters cashing in on Live8, but I think it is more a case of Live8 rekindling his desire to play again. Let's face it none of them need the money now.



Posted By: Rashikal
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 16:38
waters doesnt want no do good bullsh*t

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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 18:07
Well, for me Waters was always the spiritus movens of the band (after Barrett departure that is). I remember listening to Pulse and they didn't convince me. They were lacking something very important I can't name now. They were, as Waters had put it, another band. On the other hand I attended Waters' gig a few years back and everything was in its place. He played PF standards almost perfect (the second vocalist was slightly different from Gilmour and that was all that disturbed me at the moment, nothing more). So, the conclusion is: Waters is Mr Pink Floyd! Even if he made a tour with Mason only (or a solo tour again) I would go on a concert.

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Posted By: YYZed
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 18:18
It's likely a blessing. Why tarnish their reputation with a "reunion" tour?

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Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 18:52

Sounds like it's all about money.  The bigger question is, do people really care about Pink Floyd anymore?  I feel like yawning just thinking of them...

 



Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 19:21
Originally posted by Flip_Stone Flip_Stone wrote:

Sounds like it's all about money.  The bigger question is, do people really care about Pink Floyd anymore?  I feel like yawning just thinking of them...

 


The fanboys would definetly go to see them. Heck, if I could I would go also.


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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 19:50

It brought tears to my eyes seeing them all together again at live8. That being said, I think it's time for the old dogs to rest-at least the "Pink Floyd " name. David's solo career is in excellent form, and they all manage to keep themselves busy in the music world. David will never do a reunion tour, his family comes first now, rightfully so. Gilmours version of Floyd was well intentioned and musically sound, but they are not REAL Floyd albums. Without Waters Floyd is not so much pink but more a washed out beige.

I think things are good as they are. Anyway could a new Floyd album WITH Waters ever live up to it's expectations? Could you imagine the flurry of comparisons right from the onset? How could a freshly inspired album ever be conceived in that enviroment? I say, let sleeping Floyd's lay.



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Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:13
probably for the best if it doesn`t happen , because it would be a great thing and great things could shock the prog world and maybe even cause mental problems


Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:15
Nah.  Too much money...which, not surprisingly, is probably all Roger Waters cares about at this point.  Are people still buying Floyd albums?  Have the royalties slowed?

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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:53

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

I recently read two intervews, one with Dave Gilmour and one with Roger Watere in Guitar Player magazine. Apparently Roger was offered 250 million guranteed for a Pink Floyd reunion and has all of a sudden sort of cooled his jets about previous differences and squables. He even mentioned that he would be interested in playing Dark Side. Dave gave a flat no in his interview and even had to think about last year`s Live 8 appearance. Should Floyd do it again? I doubt I would go. Tickets would be going for a king`s ransom never mind after the scalpers got their paws on them ( Madonna tickets are going for $10,000 a pair from scalpers for a concert in June here in Montreal ). I think Roger needs $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I would however like to see Dave do a solo tour.

There's no way it can be that much, its got to be 250 thousand, not million.



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We got to pump the stuff to make us tough
from the heart
Its astart
What we need is awareness we cant get careless
Mental self defensive fitness
Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be


Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 05:53
Originally posted by HeirToRuin HeirToRuin wrote:

Nah.  Too much money...which, not surprisingly, is probably all Roger Waters cares about at this point.  Are people still buying Floyd albums?  Have the royalties slowed?


Why this attack on Waters? Please explain what he has done to make you suggest he is only interested in money.
 


Posted By: freebird
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 07:23

Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Well, for me Waters was always the spiritus movens of the band (after Barrett departure that is). I remember listening to Pulse and they didn't convince me. They were lacking something very important I can't name now. They were, as Waters had put it, another band. On the other hand I attended Waters' gig a few years back and everything was in its place. He played PF standards almost perfect (the second vocalist was slightly different from Gilmour and that was all that disturbed me at the moment, nothing more). So, the conclusion is: Waters is Mr Pink Floyd! Even if he made a tour with Mason only (or a solo tour again) I would go on a concert.

Yes I think Floyd without Waters was a different band. I saw Pink Floyd in Australia in '88 and I was dissapointed. Also they had some other drummer & guitarist on stage with them doing some key parts. It was like a 7 man band.Confused



Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 08:46
Originally posted by freebird freebird wrote:

Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Well, for me Waters was always the spiritus movens of the band (after Barrett departure that is). I remember listening to Pulse and they didn't convince me. They were lacking something very important I can't name now. They were, as Waters had put it, another band. On the other hand I attended Waters' gig a few years back and everything was in its place. He played PF standards almost perfect (the second vocalist was slightly different from Gilmour and that was all that disturbed me at the moment, nothing more). So, the conclusion is: Waters is Mr Pink Floyd! Even if he made a tour with Mason only (or a solo tour again) I would go on a concert.

Yes I think Floyd without Waters was a different band. I saw Pink Floyd in Australia in '88 and I was dissapointed. Also they had some other drummer & guitarist on stage with them doing some key parts. It was like a 7 man band.Confused

I saw a Waters concert a few years ago (the In the Flesh Tour) and my opinion is completely opposite.

Also, If like me, you are lucky enough to attent a Gimour concert with Rick Wright you will see who Floyd really is.

Roger has a unique talent for songwriting and a very good stage presence, but he is still a miserable git.



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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 08:54
I think Floyd without Waters is not Floyd anymore. The two albums they made since he left are pleasant, but lack the brooding intensity that Roger's contribution brought to the band's output. He may be a miserable git, but he's one of the greatest songwriters in the history of rock.


Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 09:01

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

I think Floyd without Waters is not Floyd anymore. The two albums they made since he left are pleasant, but lack the brooding intensity that Roger's contribution brought to the band's output. He may be a miserable git, but he's one of the greatest songwriters in the history of rock.

I never said otherwise. Although I really feel AMLOR is the best Floyd album since Animals, and far better that than Waters solo albums that I've heard (although I must confess I never heard Amused to Death, which everyone tells me I should).



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Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 17:44
Dammit, first Gilmour wants Waters back in the 90's but Waters refuses, now Waters wants Gilmour in the band, but Gilmour refuses.  Frustrating.



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