Krautrock 10
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Topic: Krautrock 10
Posted By: Yukorin
Subject: Krautrock 10
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 05:21
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Code III "Planet of Man" (1974) (an amazingly pretentious musical history of the origins of the human race and it's future...Contains the most retarded synth-pop song ever. Klaus Schulze makes an appearance)
Out Of Focus "Wake Up!" (1970) (stunning debut. John Lydon jams with Sabbath as Monster Magnet's wedding band in the Black Forest) Brainticket "Cottonwoodhill" (1971) (This record gave my cat a seizure...RIP Mr. Tiddles...) Xhol Caravan "Electrip" (1969) (remarkably still very fresh until the, erm, 'singing' kicks in on side 2) Guru Guru "UFO" (1970) real Stoner Rock. If you listen carefully you can hear one of these cats 'skinning one up' on the snare drum...) Ash Ra Tempel "s/t" (1971) ('Amboss' is heavier than a death in the family...The flip is familiar kosmische territory...Buy on vinyl if you see it. Beautiful sleeve) Agitation Free "2nd" (1973) (Tortoise plays Floyd plays Mingus...could have been recorded yesterday. Slip this on casually at a party and wait for the comments. All instrumental apart from the weaker last track) Floh De Cologne "Rockoper Profitgeier" (1971) (brutally recorded AgitGarageKraut...'tho my German friends always cringe at the lyrics. Another beautiful sleeve and was available on pink or red wax) Tony Conrad and Faust "Outside The Dream Syndicate" (1972) (underheard Minimalist classic...Faust in laid-back mood...but did we really need a head-shot of Tony "Johnny Depp" Conrad on the cover...?) Holderlin "Holderlin's Traum" (1972) (beautiful, relaxed, cosmic-folk...Even me dear 'ol Mum likes this...) ...and, of course, anything from Can, Amon Duul II, Faust, TD, Neu et al Your 10 wilkommen...! ------------- 
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 07:45
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I don't have many Krautrock albums... but these are my favourites: Can (THE MASTERS!!! Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Brainticket, Birth Control and Amon Düül I & II are ok too, and I still have to get into Grobschnitt. I don't know if everyone would consider the above bands as Krautrock though... |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 08:10
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Agitation free Last
Amon dull II Yeti Ash ra temple Join inn Kraftwerk I TD Zeit Can Tago Mago Popol vuh Das hohelied Salomos Klaus Shultze Mirage Deuter AUM Cluster II |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 08:11
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Hi Joren...! Great list...!
I really love Grobschnitt's 1st (1972) but after that... If it's German, has a strange cover, was recorded between '69-'74, and on a label no-one has heard of then it's probably awesome...! (Heino and Klaus Wunderlich included...) ! ...can't argue with you there Oliver...! Some serious brain damage in those puppies...! -------------
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 08:19
Indeed!!
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 08:25
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Posted By: vogre
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 08:36
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Exmagma - Exmagma Exmagma - Goldball Kraan - And Nogger Ashra - New Age Of Earth Faust - s/t Agitation Free - Malesch Amon Duul II - Tanz Der Lemminge Can - Tago Mago Neu! - Neu! Xhol Caravan - s/t |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 12:48
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Andrew, can you give us a description of your "Orange Peel" recommendation...? Is that another hidden gem...? ! -------------
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 14:36
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Nice collage you've got there Oliver...! Can you make me something similar...?
......preferably involving Tabatha Cash......x_o -------------
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 14:39
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Depending on how you want to define Krautrock here`s 10 of My faves: Together- Jane Jane III- Jane UFO- Guru Guru Yeti- Amon Duul II Live In London- Amon Duul II Cottonwood Hill- Brainticket Nue!- Nue! Eilliff-Close Encounters with Their Third One Dance of the Flames- Guru Guru Octopus- Boat of Thoughts ------------- |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 14:46
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Amon Düül 2 - Tanz der Lemminge Amon Düül 2 - Yeti Faust - Faust IV Can - Tago Mago Can - Future Days Grobschnitt - Rockpommel's Land Grobschnitt - Solar Music Live Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel Novalis - Sommerabend Kraan - Kraan Live What about Eulenspygel? I've only heard one sing which I liked. Is any of their albums recommended? |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 14:58
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I've only heard Rockpommel's Land and Solar Music Live myself, and I wasn't very impressed by those. I have to relisten though... |
‚Ý‚±‚·‚è‚Í‚ñ wrote:Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:05
| can't think of a top 10 for me at the moment, but I'll mention at least the first 3 or 4 Tangerine Dream albums, Electronic Meditation, Alpha Centari, and Zeit, at least one of those ought to be on everyones top 10 Kraut albums IMO, |
Posted By: ZBY147
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:10
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GROBSCHNITT - SOLAR MUSIC LIVE OUT OF FOCUS - FOUR LETTER MONDAY AFTERNOON OUT OF FOCUS - WAKE UP CAN - FUTURE DAYS CAN - SOON OVER BABALUMA FAUST - 4 DZYAN (1972) NEU (1972) AGITATION FREE - MALESH AMON DUUL II - PHALLUS DEI AMON DUUL II - TANZ DER LEMMINGE |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:50
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ZBY147...always nice to meet a fellow Out Of Focus devotee...!
Joren, I only like their 1st and it sounds a lot like Santana in parts...(very interesting but it ain't particularly heavy). Might not be to a fellow "Present" fans taste. Good, but a different trip from Can and Faust -------------
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 15:57
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Thanks for the tip! Maybe I'll check it out some time. BTW I also know Out Of Focus' "Wake Up!", but I'm not too thrilled about it... |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 16:12
I haven't heard much krautrock  , to be honest, but here are my favorites so far:Out Of Focus - Out Of Focus Out Of Focus - Wake Up! Amon Duul II - Wolf City Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen Embryo - Steig Aus Neu! - Neu! Can - Tago Mago Can - Future Days Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear ------------- 
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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 16:29
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 16:42
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Oh yeah...!...Yatha Sidhra...! ...that phasing...!
Was that Dieter Dirks on the boards...? On a par with Schwingungen...! Whatever happened to phasing...? ! Joren, "Wake Up" really clicked with me straight away...! Give her another try...preferably on 11...! BebieM Eulenspygel 2 if you don't like the music you can always ponder the meaning of the cover...! -------------
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 16:55
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anael...
...haven't heard the Zweistein recommendation... ...but anything with the title Trip Flipout Meditation deserves further investigation...! -------------
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 17:16
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Ill take a shot, but I consider Kosmiche Musik as TD, Schulze, Cluster, etc. Ill list my favorites from the Krautrock years, pre 70's to 75-76'ish? no particular order Dzyan - Electric Silence Yatha Sidhra - Meditation Mass Eroc - same Aera - Humanum est Annexus Quam - Osmose Deuter - Aum Missus Beastly - Dr. Aftershave and the Mixed Pickles Schicke, Fuhrs & Froeling - Symphonic Pictures Kraan - Let It Out Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket off the top of my head.........
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Posted By: Forkface
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 17:24
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1. ASH RA TEMPLE - Join Inn 2. NEU! - 1 3. AMON DUUL II - Phallus Dei 4. AMON DUUL II - Carnival In Babalon 5. HOLDERLIN - Clouds and Clown 6. KLAUS SCHULZE - Moondawn 7. CAN - Future Days 8. FAUST - Tapes 9. DEUTER - D 10. DZYAN - Electric Silence 11. ELOY - Floating 12. HAX CEL - Zwai 13. POPOL VUH - Einsjager & Siebenjager 14. POPOL VUH - Letzte Tage Letzte Nachte 15. MOEBIUS & PLANK - Rastakrautpasta 16. TANGERINE DREAM - Encore 17. COSMIC JOKERS - Gilles Zeitschiff 18. AGITIATION FREE - Second 19. EMTIDI - Saat 20. HARMONIA - Deluxe I know this is a top 10, but it was hard for me to pick only 20!! |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 17:45
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Some great stuff in here fellas...!
...RastaKrautPasta...! Thanks for reminding me...! Conny Plank (RIP) was The Man...! Annexus Quam, Harmonia, Emtidi...Superb...! Anyone diggin' a bit of Sand, Dom, Tomorrow's Gift, or (and to keep the Opeth fans sweet) Blackwater Park...? -------------
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 17:49
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Hmmmm Eloy aren't Krautrock at all! My top ten would be something like this, in no specific order of course with only one album per artist: Cluster-Cluster II NEU!-NEU!75 Popol Vuh-In Den Garten Pharaos Can-Tago Mago Faust-So Far Dieter Moebius and Conny Plank-Rastakraut Pasta Tangerine Dream-Zeit Klaus Schulze-X (don't know if it's really Krautrock, but still AMAZING nonetheless) Amon Duul II-Phallus Dei (hard to choose just one of their albums) Embryo-We Keep On (hard to choose just one from them) Tough calls on some artists, but I think it's a pretty good list. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 17:50
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I have only a few Krautrock cds so not enough but Can from Monster Movie to Landed is good in particular tago mago, ege bamyasi, and future days. Also Neu! 75 is a masterpiece and Neu! is also quite good |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 18:53
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Wilkommen Cheesecakemouse...!
That's a great start to an unforgettable journey...! However, remember the Golden rules to Krautrock: ...don't stray too far from '69 through '74 ...stay with the big names first ...be very wary of the 'this is the German Floyd /(insert English band here)' recommendations ...apart from Faust don't touch anything from the '80s ...be very careful with that eBay 200 dollar bid for an Ohr original LP having not heard it first ...and always remember that your real friends aren't interested in a 1st pressing "Pilz" mushroom logo spinning on your turntable (or a fried egg) -------------
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 19:18
Brilliant explanation, laffing girl!
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 19:23
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Zac M
Yeah...! "X" is fantastic...! Was it Klaus on the kit or the geezer from Wallenstein...? All I remember was side 1 of the vinyl was a side-long 25 minute bliss-fest. Great to see the early Ash Ra Tempel pictures in the gatefold-booklet as well. Stunning sleeve. Eloy: Intelligent, indulgent, stoned, early '70s, Rodney Matthews' artwork, and German. Musically, not my cup of tea but let's have 'em in this thread. -------------
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 19:51
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Thanks Mr. DallasBryan......
......btw impressive list. -------------
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 19:51
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OK, so I gave 12. Sue me. I have slightly different kraut tastes, namely I HATE Damo Suzukis voice and much prefer Can after he left. ------------- 
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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 19:57
| Thanks for the tip 'y, its goo to hear there was some good stuff in the 80s by Faust, I'll have to get some of their stuff some time along with the gazillions of other cds that I have to try out. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 20:17
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do you have recommendations for Kosmiche Musik from the 70's and 80's Geisha Girl?
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 20:20
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NetsNJFan...!
I'm gonna have to sue you... ...not because you 'and I quote "hate Damo's voice" ' ...not because you "gave 12" ...not because you prefer one slightly-off pickled cabbage to another But because you rate "Wolf City" better than "Carnival In Babylon" Have your day in court ! -------------
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 20:44
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All I have is Mago Tago (Can) and I love love it. -------------  
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 20:47
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Hi Mr. Dallas...
...please read my 1st post... ...start with ANYTHING on the Delta Acoustic label ...sell your loft to buy Sand's "Golem" on vinyl ...then another apartment for Dom's "Edge Of Time" ...then when you find "Four Letter Monday Afternoon" on vinyl please visit Tokyo and press pin-pon ‚¨‘O‚³[Œ|ŽÒ‚¶‚á‚Ë‚¥I‰´Šë‚È‚¢’jƒjƒƒƒjƒƒBBBiÎj -------------
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 21:28
| looking for euro Kosmiche Musiks(progressive electronic rock) from the later 70's, ala Vangelis, Lard Free, TD, Schulze, Cluster,etc. |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 22:13
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My favourite electronic music from the late '70s is all from France...
...Archaia ...Heldon/Pinhas ...Hellebore ...Arachnoid ...but I know it's not what you have in mind. In England these guys are awesome...! Give 'em a call...! http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/ - http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/ Two brothers Alan and Steve...any subject...doesn't matter...these guys know everything. Are you interested in the classical electronic works of the '50s and '60s ? Much better stuff there than in the '80s I fancy...! -------------
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 00:33
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dude, "Surrounded by the Stars" is way better than anything on any ADII album, IMO -------------
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Posted By: Zsyg
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 12:32
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GOMORRHA - Trauma VIRUS - Revelation OUT OF FOCUS - Four Letter Monday Afternoon EMBRYO - Opal TWENTY SIXTY SIX & THEN - Reflections On The Future RAMSES - La Leyla LILY - V.C.U. SILBERBART - 4 Times Sound Razing TOMORROW"S GIFT - Same CORNUCOPIA - Full Horn |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 12:39
amen cuz!  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 12:43
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mine 1. Amon Duul - Wolf City 2. Can - Future Days 3. Popol Vuh - Letzte Tage Letzte Nachte 4. Faust - Faust IV 5. Kraan - Andy Nogger 6. Amon Duul - Yeti 7. Neu! - Neu! 8. Can - Tago Mago 9. Tangerine Dream - Ricochet 10. Popol Vuh - Einsjager-Siebenjager ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 14:56
Alright thanks! Wow, you really have a huge knowledge of Krautrock! Has anyone else heard Eulenspygel yet? |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 16:56
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micky, Sounds like a Krautrock starter kit you got there, keep going you about to find the good stuff! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 19:40
hahaha you are a ball buster aren't you. I have to admit I thought about prefacing my list with... incomplete collection. I really haven't got much deeper than many of the 'essential' groups and albums. I got into Krautrock and Italian near the same time and .... well I've had an addiction to Italian prog to feed so other than completing the Amon Duul discography I haven't done much to any Kraut shopping recently. For what it's worth... I will be coming back to it at some point.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 22:15
I know this, just jackin with you, but really after you get past the krautrock mainstream cruds, it gets really good. Check for instance, Annexus Quam - Osmose, Cluster - Zuckerzeit, Aera - Humanum est, Micheal Hoenig - Departures from a Northern Wasteland, TD - Force Majeure, Eroc - same(these are all examples of no-brainers and will wake you up). Remember trust the GIMP! hehehe
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 22:23
the trust is complete.. your advice, in large part, is the reason I've undertaken this journey to the four corners of the prog world that I'm on. Once I started.. I couldn't stop. If only my pocketbook could survive the travel...   Looking forward to returning to Germany after so more 'sightseeing' in Spain and an overdue trip to Japan hahahha.------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 22:33
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dont miss Atila's first 2, Gualberto's Vercuetos from Spain and Far East Family's Nipponjin from Japan are at the top of the crop!
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 22:36
Just when I think my collection is growing I see a thread like this ------------- |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 22:47
oh I can relate Drew.. I look over at my wall of albums and CD's... pump my chest and feel good about spending the kids college tuitiion on prog albums I can't even pronounce.. then I talk to people like Dallas or ...especially ANDREW and those damn lists of his hahahah, and realize that I will never catch up.... and that's a good thing isn't it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 22:52
Atila's Reviure grew on me big time... looking forward to hearing another. Believe it or not.. I keep a small notebook with all the suggestions and recommends I've gooten here. So many to catch up with though... wow. Makes me wish I had skipped the Disco years.. or the colored spiked hair phase, or the long dirty greasy haired days (RATT and ROLL hahahha) .. and just stuck to what my parents tried to get me into eariler hahahha ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 12:44
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 13:02
haven't heard that one either.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 13:04
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'Tis a bona fide classic -------------
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