Coheed and Cambria
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Topic: Coheed and Cambria
Posted By: rushfan6588
Subject: Coheed and Cambria
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 11:49
| What do you think....i go prog related myself |
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 11:51
| No, I really think they are more emo than anything. Plus I really don't like them so go figure. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 12:33
Since there is no "Progressive Alternative Rock" Genre ... I go with Prog Related, because they fit nowhere else. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Matt Dickens
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:05
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I don't think they belong They have very few progressive moments put in between endless streams of regurtitated pop punk vocal melodies and guitar riffs. And their so called story line seems to make absolutely no sense to anyone I know. I feel like they'r trying to seem progressive with their long album and song titles and so-called concept. but the music is not progressive at all if you ask me |
Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:15
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Music is sometimes enjoyable but is no way progressive, especially when compared with a modern prog band like the Mars Volta ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Bodins/?chartstyle=DarkSide5Big"> 
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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: April 01 2006 at 14:28
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After several listenings to "In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth" I believe there are enough Prog elements to call them Prog-Related - but they are Not Prog. ------------- David - Never doubt in the dark that which you believe to be true in the light. http://www.myspace.com/aardvarktxusa - Instrumental rock http://www.soundclick.com/aardvarktxusa |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 01 2006 at 14:37
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I don't think that The Mars Volta is a benchmark for prog. Take away their quirky experimentality ... what's left? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Cygnus X-1 wrote:Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: April 01 2006 at 17:40
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well take away the experimentalism of all prog bands and what's left? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Bodins/?chartstyle=DarkSide5Big">
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: April 01 2006 at 20:33
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Prog Related. I love GAIBSIVV.1:FFTtEoM (Heehee, love that abreviation, too long.) Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV Volume 1: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness As for there other albums, eh, not so much. ------------- www.myspace.com/hail_peter 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 00:24
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No, I have Good Apollo, blah blah blah, boiiing boiiiing and all the "prog" elements seem to be at the beginning and end of songs, the actual songs themselves are not great. I like some of them however, but this album has to be the most disappointed buy of last year, what was I thinking? I know why I bought it now! Danny Louis, the keyboard player for Gov't Mule (my favourite non-prog band) guests on it and he told me try them out, haha, I spoke to him after a concert. Oh well! -------------   
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 01:19
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Prog related for me, though i dont like the vocals. I cant help but remember other emo punk bands... Ugghhh
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 07:23
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They aren't really related to prog in any way are they? Just because their albums are conceptual doesnt mean they are Prog,even "-ish" It's all abit teeny bopperish too! Uh-oh here we go "man your battle stations........" I feel a backlash-a coming! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 08:56
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It depends on how you define "experimenterialism". A band can be inventive and original without being too experimental. Some bands - like The Mars Volta - try very hard to do things that no band did before ... be really unique and absolutely genre-defying experimental. I think that these bands are not more prog than bands like Shadow Gallery or The Flower Kings. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 08:59
Their music is progressive ... I couldn't care less about the conceptuality. I never "bought" that rule of thumb that the longer the songs (or the greater the scale of the concept) the more prog. Fact is that their compositions exhibit many of the trademarks of prog rock. You don't have to like them (as a matter of fact I really don't like them), but you have to try to separate the assessment of their progressiveness from how you would rate their albums. Or do the archives only accept "good" bands? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 09:12
Prog-Related  ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 11:37
Well,I quite like them,some songs are quite catchy in a trashy kind of way.But I dont believe they are prog-related. I take your very good point about accepting only "good" bnds though Mike,personal taste should not get in the way of the assessment process. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 11:40
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^ The whole Coheed and Cambria discussion just seems a bit ridiculous to me because I keep reading about them in (print) magazines. So why do these magazines discuss the band when they are rejected on this website which claims to be inclusive, but doesn't even accept them as prog related? It just doesn't make sense for me. Either we are strict, or inclusive. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 12:46
The point is is that I am not blocking them at all,to be honest I dont really care one way or the other.I am not trying to influence opinion or throw my weight around.... I am just voicing my own opinion which is neither more nor less valid than anyone elses. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 12:53
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Until someone will provide me with different material than what can be heard on their homepage, I am strongly opposed to the idea of their inclusion. What can be heard there has nothing whatever to do with prog.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 13:46
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I have their recent album Friede and I have to agree, they're not very prog. Now, The Mystery Jets on the other hand are far more prog to my ears, but I cannot see them being added on here either. I do appreciate a few of their tracks though, but some are too emo for my ears. The best track is the final one and that's only because of the Dave Gilmour-esque guitar playing! My friend claims she likes prog, because she listens to Co&Ca and Rush... hmm, she's very misinformed! -------------
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 14:05
I listened to a few of there songs. They're in the same league as bands like My Chemical Romance  and Falloutboy. Just emo with concept albums. Greenday made a concept album, but I don't see ayone getting them added. Same case with these guys. -------------  
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 14:50
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The song structures are much more complex than My Chemical Romance ... or Green Day, for that matter. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 15:04
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I agree Mike, they're better than My Chemical Romance, Greenday and all those awful bands, they're talented musicians and I think the concept is quite fun, but they're not prog. The artwork is great too and done by one of the band. So they're no slouches, I just don't think they're prog, that's all. I like a few tracks and that's all.
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 15:21
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Art rock. Far more progressive than some of the tr0 pr0g bands here... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: April 02 2006 at 15:29
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amenPosted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 09:06
| In my opinion it is music influenced by progressive rock, I should add them by prog related. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 04 2006 at 09:33
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I understand what you're saying ... but prog related essentially means "not prog", doesn't it? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Benannon
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 18:46
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Of course they are prog/art rock ... these guys takes these styles into the 21 century .. they have great melodies, fancy instrumental parts, cool incomrehensable storys ( just like Jon Andersson) .. and they shure know how to paint pictures with their music ... ------------- As the world comes to an end. You will discover that I come out, on top |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 19:40
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I've said all I need to say in other threads. This band is prog. I go with Art Rock. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 09 2006 at 08:14
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"No". |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:26
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Art Rock
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:34
| No, they're emo, not prog. Besides that I refuse to vote for a band that has an album with such a stupid title as "Good Apollo..." |
Posted By: Mikeypoo
Date Posted: May 21 2006 at 20:31
| i dont pretend to know as much about progressive music as, say Mikeenregalia, im a relative new comer to the prog scene. However, from what i do know these guys in Coheed and Cambria seem to fit the bill for art rock to a tee. i have two of their albums, Good Apollo, and in Keeping Secrets... both of which i enjoyed thoroughly and throuout was consatntly reminded of TMV. it took a while for it to grow on me, much as did pain of salvation, the mars volta and MANY other prog bands. they admittedly dont play strictly prog tho. they mix it instead with a few different styles, mainly punk (i dont get the emo tag) and a little metal heavily influenced by prog. They're a band on the cutting edge of music today. they dont fit into any one genre, they constantly push the envelope, and as one of you said, are no artistic slouches by any means. I believe it would be foolish of such a high quality and well respected archive such as this to blatently ignore a band that millions of people consider prog. At LEAST add them under the tag of prog related (the best nutral postion). Thanks, i sincerely hope the archives consider adding C&C to their extensive collection. |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: May 22 2006 at 09:52
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As I've said before, and will say again, PROG-RELATED
------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |