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Topic: Most influential fusion band
Posted By: marktheshark
Subject: Most influential fusion band
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 00:12
After Miles Davis's Bitches Brew, alumni from those sessions resulted in these 3 groundbreaking bands. No need to list who was on what Davis album, many of them went on to form these bands. Who was most influential? Tough choice!

While John McLaughlin went on the more spiritual route with Mahavishnu. Chick Corea went on a more slightly funkier road with Stanley Clarke and Lenny White with RTF. Joseph Zawinal and Wayne Shorter explored more worldly sounds with Weather Report.

These were the real forrunners. So take your pick.



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Posted By: andYouandI45
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 00:36
Mahavishnu is the greatest. Followed by Return to Forever!


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 01:00
Mahavishnu Orchestra if I had to pick one,but all three were pretty influential fusion bands.

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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 04:40
All three listed bands are equally important IMO. I can't pick one, although Return To Forever I know the least.

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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 09:20
  1. RETURN TO FOREVER
  2. MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA
  3. WEATHER REPORT
  4. TONY WILLIAMS'S LIFETIME (they should be in the Archives)

I love them all, and i own almost all their albums!!!



Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 09:28
I would say Weather Report.

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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 10:01
Wow, that IS a tough choice. I'm gonna go with return to Forever, as they brought the music to the widest audience due to the rock aspect with Dimeola. 

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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 13:48
Taking the thread literally, you have ask who have these particular bands  influenced musically and then come to your conclusions. A quick thought about albums/bands with references back to the three main (well best selling) Miles Davis derivatives (and yes, do not forget both variants of Lifetime or Tony Williams Wildlife bands - the original Lifetime has had two tributes at least), and I get the following:

MO: Isotope, Mahavishnu Project, Mastermind, Kennedy
RTF: Electromagnets
Weather Report: Tribal Tech, Christian McBride

But I think there are more bands influenced by Soft Machine who would be my FAVOURITE


Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 17:55
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:



But I think there are more bands influenced by Soft Machine who would be my FAVOURITE


I agree, and they're my favorite too. By far actually


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 18:03
Mahavishnu influenced most fusion bands!

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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 18:26
I would say Mahavishnu by a long shot, but Brand X deserves a spot on that list IMO

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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 18:28
Mahavishnu Orchestra of course.  They were the first fusion band I acquired followed closely by Return To Forever and then Weather Report.  Another great one which I enjoy at least as much as Maha is Arti & Mestieri! 


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 18:39

I don't really like fusion, but I'd pick Miles Davis were he on here. Instead, Mahavishnu.



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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 19:17
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

I would say Mahavishnu by a long shot, but Brand X deserves a spot on that list IMO

Brand X was no doubt great, but I kept the poll to the biggest groundbreakers who were well ahead of the game than Brand X. Although Dick Heath has a good point about Soft Machine being influential.


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 20:08
Mahavishnu, a legend!



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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 20:28
Out of those three, Mahavishnu, but as a fan of British Jazz and Jazz Fusion, my preference would lean towards Soft Machine or Nucleus (Ian Carr in general really).

Return to Forever and Weather Report had a big influence on American Jazz and Jazz fusion obviously, as they were the most influential groups.  Mahavishnu is tough to pin, mainly because sometimes they sound very American and sometimes somewhat British, although I do feel overall, they have a much more American feel.

Brand X is the least influential of famous Jazz fusion acts IMO.  Don't get me wrong, I like them, it's just that they became very samey and less interesting after the first two albums (and Product is a bit too directionless....).




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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 20:50
I think Weather Report had the best song writing and structure.
Mahavishnu did alot of jamming. Chicky and Return to Forever were pleasant but didn't
have as strong melodies as Weather Report.


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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:42

I really like McLaughlin



Posted By: CVoss
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 13:18
Artistic influence: Mahavishnu Orchestra (where my vote comes from)
Commerical influence: Weather Report (a different question altogether)


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Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 15:58
Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

  1. RETURN TO FOREVER
  2. MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA
  3. WEATHER REPORT
  4. TONY WILLIAMS'S LIFETIME (they should be in the Archives)

I love them all, and i own almost all their albums!!!

 
f**king thank you!!! "Tony Williams' Lifetime" needs to be on the archives no doubt about it.


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Posted By: wolf0621
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 18:58
Originally posted by Jeff Schu Jeff Schu wrote:

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

  1. RETURN TO FOREVER
  2. MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA
  3. WEATHER REPORT
  4. TONY WILLIAMS'S LIFETIME (they should be in the Archives)

I love them all, and i own almost all their albums!!!

 
f**king thank you!!! "Tony Williams' Lifetime" needs to be on the archives no doubt about it.
 
 
Which Lifetime, the original (w/McLaughlin, Larry Young & Jack Bruce) lineup from '69-'73, or the New Tony Williams Lifetime lineup w/Tony Newton, Alan Pasqua & Holdsworth ('75-'76)? I vote to add both!Big smile


Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 20:55
mahavishnu


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 21:06
glad to see this one is the runaway as it should be..... you can hear the M.O. influences all over prog... from Yes to PFM.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 21:07
Originally posted by wolf0621 wolf0621 wrote:

Originally posted by Jeff Schu Jeff Schu wrote:

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

  1. RETURN TO FOREVER
  2. MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA
  3. WEATHER REPORT
  4. TONY WILLIAMS'S LIFETIME (they should be in the Archives)

I love them all, and i own almost all their albums!!!

 
f**king thank you!!! "Tony Williams' Lifetime" needs to be on the archives no doubt about it.
 
 
Which Lifetime, the original (w/McLaughlin, Larry Young & Jack Bruce) lineup from '69-'73, or the New Tony Williams Lifetime lineup w/Tony Newton, Alan Pasqua & Holdsworth ('75-'76)? I vote to add both!Big smile


great call on Tony William's Lifetime... I stumbled on to them... not as a fusion fan (which I'm not really) but as a solid Jack Bruce fan.  Great great stuff.


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Posted By: bamba
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 21:16
I think its Chick Corea's band he was influenced by The most experimental records of Miles Davis.

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Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: June 05 2006 at 22:10
Originally posted by wolf0621 wolf0621 wrote:

Originally posted by Jeff Schu Jeff Schu wrote:

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

  1. RETURN TO FOREVER
  2. MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA
  3. WEATHER REPORT
  4. TONY WILLIAMS'S LIFETIME (they should be in the Archives)

I love them all, and i own almost all their albums!!!

 
f**king thank you!!! "Tony Williams' Lifetime" needs to be on the archives no doubt about it.
 
 
Which Lifetime, the original (w/McLaughlin, Larry Young & Jack Bruce) lineup from '69-'73, or the New Tony Williams Lifetime lineup w/Tony Newton, Alan Pasqua & Holdsworth ('75-'76)? I vote to add both!Big smile
 
Well as of now I've only heard the line up with Allan Holdsworth... But I really see no legitamate reason for them not being in the Jazz Fusion section of the archives no good reason at all.


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