Jethro Tull: the 80s
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Topic: Jethro Tull: the 80s
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Subject: Jethro Tull: the 80s
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 05:25
This is the most usually criticized period for all the traditional prog bands of the seventies.
Having all the Tull's discography I confess I really enjoy all their 80s' stuff, especially in the freshest remastered re-issues.
Which is the most interesting album from the ones above?
Me I would say "A", just because the fantastic "Black Sunday" song.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 05:46
This one is an easy one.
Broadsword is undisputably better than the rest on this list.
And Under Wraps is Tull's worst album ever.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 06:47
Yep, Broadsword is an excellent album. And what a great remaster!![](smileys/smiley32.gif)
Under Wraps is the most strange and funny Tull album!
In my opinion Tull never made bad albums![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
Of the few I do not listen to often:
- Catfish Risin'
- Crest of a Knave
- This Was
- Dot Com
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 06:54
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Yep, Broadsword is an excellent album. And what a great remaster!![](smileys/smiley32.gif)
Under Wraps is the most strange and funny Tull album!
In my opinion Tull never made bad albums![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
Of the few I do not listen to often:
- Catfish Risin'
- Crest of a Knave
- This Was
- Dot Com
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I agree with your list of less exciting albums, but Under Wraps is weaker or worse (right word) than any of them. I mean - popish radio friendly commercial songies - really bad IMO!
But I appreciate that for die-hard fans they "never made bad albums"
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 06:59
eugene wrote:
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Yep, Broadsword is an excellent album. And what a great remaster!![](smileys/smiley32.gif)
Under Wraps is the most strange and funny Tull album!
In my opinion Tull never made bad albums![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
Of the few I do not listen to often:
- Catfish Risin'
- Crest of a Knave
- This Was
- Dot Com
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I agree with your list of less exciting albums, but Under Wraps is weaker or worse (right word) than any of them. I mean - popish radio friendly commercial songies - really bad IMO!
But I appreciate that for die-hard fans they "never made bad albums"
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Only apparently Under Wraps is a popish album!
It is an interesting "opera buffa", a sort of "humoresque pastiche". I don't think songs as "Tundra", "General Crossing" and "Automotive Engeneering" are popish tracks.
They could seem to be so, but they aren't, in my opinion!![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 07:08
I voted for "Rock Island", not the best from that period, but i like it.
For Andrea: check out their first album "This Was", where they play an excellent jazz-rock/blues.![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 07:19
I know very well "This Was" and the sound is very good. My favourites from that 1968 album:
- Beggar's Farm (one of the best Tull's songs ever!! really underrated!)
- Song For Jeffrey
- My Sunday Feeling
- Serenade to a Cuckoo
... and so on.
The fact is that I do not listen to that album often, since there are many other Tull's records that catch more my attention and they are not the most famous:
- Stormwatch
- A
- Roots to Branches
- War Child
and all the Ian Anderson's solo works, in order (of preference):
- The Secret Language of Birds
- Rupi's Dance
- Divinities: Twelve Dances with God
- Walk Into Light
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:31
Broadsword for me, but Crest was a goodly "comeback" too (though Ian's voice had noticably deteriorated by then).
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 15:35
Is Roots to branches any good? And when I mean any good is it better than...at least Too old too die...? Because I was thinking I may buy it in a very near future, because I only have albums from the ´70 by Tull...
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 16:17
Roots to Branches is the most solid and convincing Tull's album of the nineties.
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 18:18
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Roots to Branches is the most solid and convincing Tull's album of the nineties.![](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
Ditto that. A very powerful beautifully written album. The arrangements
are as well thought out as anything the've ever done. Lots of
instrumental counterpoint and dynamics. The band really kicks ass. The
production is perfect.
One of my all-time favorite Tull albums.
------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head.
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 18:29
Dispite it's "cast of thousands" Crest has too be my fav, followed by Broadsword. Under Wraps is definately the rotton apple in that bunch.
------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan
ringed by ants and musing over man.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: March 30 2006 at 07:21
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: March 30 2006 at 07:56
Broadsword
------------- Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally
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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: March 30 2006 at 08:58
Of the list above 'Crest of a Knave' is the one I listen to most - I guess that means I like it the most.
Anyways, that's how I voted...
Honestly though, from his 80's releases the '20 Years Of Jethro Tull' Box Set, which I have on vinyl gets much, much, much more play than any of the studio albums listed above.
------------- Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks."
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Posted By: TOD KREMER
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 00:25
Under Wraps - is the most puzzling thing I have ever heard. John Vettese (SP?) was a bad influence. He scuddled Ian's first solos album as well. - 1 (For title track, else 0)
A - has good songs but too synth oriented (80's keys probably just should have been turned down a little) (Rush, same affliction).
Rock Island - I cannot comment on. Have heard bad things. - ?
Broadsword - 9 (My vote on this poll)
Crest - 8
Any fans who gave up on Tull before Broadsword and Crest should give them a listen. They stand up to anything Tull has ever done. I can't imagine a Tull fan not liking these albums.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 04:51
Gulp! Broadsword is so highly appreciated!![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
...I knew that![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) ![](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
But I have to insist: "A" is the better on the list above!
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Posted By: Goldenavatar
Date Posted: April 05 2006 at 22:11
I've got to go with Crest of a Knave. After all, they did win a grammy for it, beating out Metallica. Man that's priceless. Plus it has Farm on the Freeway, Budapest, and Jumpstart, all great Tull tunes.
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 16:44
Goldenavatar wrote:
I've got to go with Crest of a Knave. After all,
they did win a grammy for it, beating out Metallica. Man that's
priceless. Plus it has Farm on the Freeway, Budapest, and Jumpstart,
all great Tull tunes. |
Yeah that was priceless: BEST HEAVY METAL ALBUM!!!!!!!!!!
I bet Ian had a good laugh on that one.
------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head.
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 18:22
Dr. Occulator wrote:
Goldenavatar wrote:
I've got to go with Crest of a Knave. After all, they did win a grammy for it, beating out Metallica. Man that's priceless. Plus it has Farm on the Freeway, Budapest, and Jumpstart, all great Tull tunes. |
Yeah that was priceless: BEST HEAVY METAL ALBUM!!!!!!!!!! I bet Ian had a good laugh on that one.
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When Jethro Tull won that Grammy everybody in musical business commented that the prize was sort of compensation to Jethro Tull for their entire career because they hadn't received any Grammys previously.
Best "Heavy Metal" album with drum machines in half of the songs? ![](smileys/smiley5.gif)
Anyway I do think that the album has several good moments, but the drum machines are atrocious, and the slower songs sound like taken from a bad Mark Knopfler album, included Budapest. Still, I enjoy the flute % electric guitar interplay.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 06 2006 at 19:31
The Broadsword And The Beast.
The only one off the list i dont have is "A"...which is something i am looking for.
------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 05:58
Man With Hat wrote:
The Broadsword And The Beast.
The only one off the list i dont have is "A"...which is something i am looking for.
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I recommend you to buy the recent A remaster (with bonus dvd featuring the Slipstream video ).
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 06:03
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Roots to Branches is the most solid and convincing Tull's album of the nineties.![](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
agreed ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
as faras the 80's are concerned my vote would be from TB&TB or Crest of Knave.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 07:37
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Of the few I do not listen to often:
- Catfish Risin'
- Crest of a Knave
- This Was
- Dot Com
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I agree with you about This Was and Catfish Risin'. Can't say about Dot Com though as that's the only Tull album I haven't heard yet. Crest of a Knave is a great album IMO. I'm not keen on Under Wraps, War Child or Too Old To Rock 'n' Roll.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 09:48
Crest of a Knave is very good, indeed. It's not one of my Tull's favourites...even if the first four tracks and Budapest are all excellent!
I prefer, I repeat, underrated albums as "A", "Stormwatch" and "Rock Island" (which is far better than Crest!)![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
By the way, me I'm a great fan of all Tull's albums and also bought the Ian Anderson's discography (stunning !) plus Stage Left by Martin "Lancelot" Barre.
I'm pleased to listen to Under Wraps sometimes. Always considered it very interesting and never boring! (the opener track "Lap of Luxury" apart! )
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 10:02
Andrea Cortese wrote:
I prefer, I repeat, underrated albums as "A", "Stormwatch" and "Rock Island" (which is far better than Crest!)![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Rock Island better than Crest of a Knave? Well, it's all a matter of taste.
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Stage Left by Martin "Lancelot" Barre.
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Posted By: Jack-a-lynn
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 14:03
I am a big fan of Broadsword and the Beast.
A is amazing- Flylingdale Flyer is one of my favorite Tull songs.
------------- "from the moment i could talk, i was ordered to listen." -cat stevens
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 19:05
A is a very cool prog album, definately the best from the 80s
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 07 2006 at 19:45
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 08:15
If you want to download much better recordings of Crest and Broadsword songs, come to my site ;). They include some bonus stuff missing from the remasters too ;)
http://www.raylomus.com/Jethro_Tull.html - http://www.raylomus.com/Jethro_Tull.html
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 16:30
Against many opinions, I really love the 80's JT albums... My vote goes for "A", specially because I love tyhe work of Eddie Jobson on keyboards...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2006 at 19:40
Any prog fan should be voting for A ;). As for best 90s album, I can't go past Dotcom and I think you can make a better 10 song album from the full Catfish session than Roots to Branches ;). Here is a Budapest with a a better drum sound ;)
http://raylomus.com/Crest_of_a_Knave1987/BUDAPESTfullversion.mp3 - http://raylomus.com/Crest_of_a_Knave1987/BUDAPESTfullversion .mp3
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