Jean-Luc Ponty
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Topic: Jean-Luc Ponty
Posted By: Petary791
Subject: Jean-Luc Ponty
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 21:34
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Do any of you guys listen to him? I find him to be very proggy. I love all his old stuff. I recently recieved the album Aurora and there's not one track that I skip.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 21:37
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Ponty is amazing. I love his Enigmatic Ocean album.Very good drum and guitar work by Steve Smith and Allan Holdsworth. -------------  |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 21:39
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I have Enigmatic Oceans, Imaginary Voyage, and King Kong. All of these albums are simply brilliant and go to show he's one of the best violinists in rock and jazz. ------------- 
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 21:44
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And you could always listen to Mystical Adventures and Civilized evil if you
want to hear Randy from American Idol play some really good bass. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Ironing Mike
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 22:12
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As already mentioned, a great early Pony album is King Kong on which he
plays the music of Frank Zappa with FZ and numerous Mothers alumni. I had the good fortune to catch Ponty with the Mothers and with Mahavishnu Orchestra in the early 70s. He was an illustrious sideman before striking out as a soloist. ------------- It's a rainy day, sunshine girl |
Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 22:18
| I love Jean-Luc Ponty - particularly Aurora. I can't find that album on CD. Do you if it's available as a CD? |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 23:27
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Randy "The Emperor" Jackson was one of the best bass players in Rock and Jazz. he was a Journey member and played with the best of the best like
But then one day he had an emergency surgery (Gastric bypass due to his overwight), so he started to play with more cool artists to get enough bucks like N?Sync or Madonna and at last he found a stable job in American Idol. What a waste of talent, because the guy is outstanding. Iván
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FragileDT wrote:Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 23:34
I know. He's a great bass player. I love the work that he does on both the Ponty albums he appears on. I think he only appeared on those two right? (Mystical Adventures and Civilized Evil.) ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 23:57
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Almost Fragile, Randy played in three Ponty albums, he replaced Ralphie Armstrong after Jean Luc Ponty Live (73),and he played in:
Randy left Jean Luc and soon joined Journey and if I'm not wrong Ponty used Synth Bass in Open Mind because he didn't found a bassist as Randy or his predecesesor Ralphie Armstrong. Ponty didn't used a bass player in his albums until 1987's release "The Gift of Time" where Baron Browne played, who also has an amazing discography, but not in the level of "The Emperor". Iván
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 03:23
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i just relistened last week to a compilation I had made on cassette, and it was the fi!rst time in 10 years. What a joy it was Quite fine music, but once you got two albums, I tend to think you have them all: this goes especially for those second part of the 70's album (I have not heard the earlier albums and I must say I tend to shun the latter albums (80's and beyond) - do not know whether this last part ofhis discography is worth it if you have Enigmatic Ocean or my favourite Upon The Wings Of music ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 03:52
Me too, the "Renaissance" piece makes me almost cry. Unfortunatly, the CD seems not to be released anymore and only available on second hand at high price. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 04:51
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I discovered JL Ponty in the late Seventies and was stunned by his dynamic, jazzrock inspired sound, loaded with his outstanding violinplay. And he used to invite very crafty musicians on his albums like Daryl Stuermer who later joined Genesis on tour (after Allan Holdsworth had refused). Highly recommended: his DVD entitled Jean Luc Ponty In Concert, recorded 1999 in Poland |
!Posted By: pero
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 05:59
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I like more Jerry Goodman (ex Flock) and his performances in Mahavishnu orchestra than Ponty's. I have also Live at Donte's of Luc and it's OK, but nothing more. |
Posted By: grandoleopry
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:12
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Cosmic Messenger does the trick for me. Four star album. Hey, I think an ex-Tull drummer played on Civilized Evil too. ------------- Dreams. Gabor Szabo (1968) |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:14
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Out in UK on 1st May:
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 07:21
It's not the same playing style IMO. Ponty is more melodic and fluent, while Goodman is more energic and strident. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 12:41
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just listen to the delightful sound chasers on imaginary voyage. have you noticed ytnop music stands for his name reversed? ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 13:13
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Mystical Adventures is fantastic and very progressive. Should be in every prog. collection. The only other album I've heard is Enigmatic Ocean, but that seems a bit weak and dated sounding. Good topic and good to remember Mr. Ponty!
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 15:19
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You can`t go wrong with the seventies stuff. He had a lot of great
young musicians playing on those albums as well as touring with him.
Saw him many times live. Saw him with Larry Coryell dropping in to jam
at Theatre St.Denis in the early 80`s.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 17:18
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As friend of mine is a huge fan of Jean-Luc Ponty, and I had very good chance to listen to probably all albums Ponty ever released - too many of them to list here or to simply remember. Here is what I liked most and consequently bought for myself: Aurora King Kong Imaginary Voyage Enigmatic Ocean Cosmic Messenger Mystical Adventures and The Rite of Strings by Stanley Clarke/Al Di Meola/Jean-Luc Ponty IMO above albums are representing BEST of Great Jean-Luc Ponty. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 17:50
The first Mahavishnu Orchestra is THE Mahavuishnu Orchestra. This said, I have to pay hommage to Ponty. His albums with McLaughlin are wonderful, and his solo production is amazing. My first Ponty album was Live; nowadays I use to carry with me a good compilation (the very best of, I think), because I must agree with the guy above that said that, at some extent, his albums are very similar (late seventies, of course). |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 23:41
Now, that's a gem that I've beem looking for since 20 years ago. Iván -------------
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 05:09
That is why i like him. One word fom Birds of fire is the example. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 29 2006 at 05:24
True , the music was much different the BOT or IMF than when Ponty got in MO, but I must say that I prefer the Goodman years
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: TOD KREMER
Date Posted: March 30 2006 at 02:23
| Fables and Civilized Evil are my faves. I am freaked out that Randy Jackson played with him. I never knew that connection. |
Posted By: Gonzalo
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 12:31
and almost all his stuff
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 17:09
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Heard him this evening on Aural moon and liked what i heard. Happy Robots from Civilized was the song. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 01 2006 at 19:33
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patrice rushen, the keyboardist on AURORA:
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Posted By: Zoso
Date Posted: April 01 2006 at 23:17
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He's amazing. I love him on The Rite of Strings.
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