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Topic: Lighthearted poll...90s great prog epics.
Posted By: HeirToRuin
Subject: Lighthearted poll...90s great prog epics.
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 14:44
I am taking Fates Warning for the win.


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 14:49
ACOS!

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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 14:51
I am a HUGE fan of 'Mind Drive', Best piece of Yes music in the 90s. Anyone notice that it goes on for almost the EXACT same time as 'Close to the Edge' (18:40) Hmmm, I wonder if that was intentional!

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 14:53

I think that This Strange Engine is a lot better than Interior Lulu (the Positive Light remix of TSE is also really cool).

And I'm not too fond of the studio version of ACOS, the Live Scenes... version is so much better.



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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 14:54
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I think that This Strange Engine is a lot better than Interior Lulu (the Positive Light remix of TSE is also really cool).

And I'm not too fond of the studio version of ACOS, the Live Scenes... version is so much better.




Oh man I forgot completely about This Strange Engine.  I do think that one is better than Interior Lulu.


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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 14:55
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

I am a HUGE fan of 'Mind Drive', Best piece of Yes music in the 90s. Anyone notice that it goes on for almost the EXACT same time as 'Close to the Edge' (18:40) Hmmm, I wonder if that was intentional!



I didn't know...but that's interesting indeed.  I wonder why so many people are viewing this post but not voting...


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 14:56

Voyage 34 can be boring!

ACOS cannot!



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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:09
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I think that This Strange Engine is a lot better than Interior Lulu (the Positive Light remix of TSE is also really cool).

100% agree.  I'm was never too excited about Interior Lulu



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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:14
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Voyage 34 can be boring!

ACOS cannot!

Tell me you agree that the Live Scenes from New York version is better.



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:15
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Voyage 34 can be boring!

ACOS cannot!

Tell me you agree that the Live Scenes from New York version is better.

Don't remember!



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:16
Hey HtR, why didn't you include Spock's Beard's "The Water" in your poll?

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Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:24

If in the options was 'MARILLION - This Strange Engine' I would voted on it. 'Interior Lulu' isn't a great song...

Then I voted on 'Garden of Dreams'

 



Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:28

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Hey HtR, why didn't you include Spock's Beard's "The Water" in your poll?

Interesting question... This is an implicit option to this poll... An excellent suite from the nineties...



Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:28
"A Change Of Season" followed by "A Pleasant Shade Of Grey".


Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:29
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Hey HtR, why didn't you include Spock's Beard's "The Water" in your poll?



ARGH!  I was just listing stuff off the top of my head, and I haven't really listened to much Spock's Beard pre-V at this time so it just didn't occur to me.  I'll be sure to give that a listen today.


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:29

Dream Theater and ACOS.

No Transatlantic?????

Almost every TA tune is an epic.



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:32

Originally posted by HeirToRuin HeirToRuin wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Hey HtR, why didn't you include Spock's Beard's "The Water" in your poll?



ARGH!  I was just listing stuff off the top of my head, and I haven't really listened to much Spock's Beard pre-V at this time so it just didn't occur to me.  I'll be sure to give that a listen today.

...It was kind of a joke. Silly song.



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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:32

A Change of Seasons gets my vote as well. One of the best pieces of all time.

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Dream Theater and ACOS.

No Transatlantic?????

Almost every TA tune is an epic.

This is a 90s poll; all of Transatlantic's music was released in the next decade.



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Posted By: HeirToRuin
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:35
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


...It was kind of a joke. Silly song.





Ok.  I know SB's early stuff is largely epic length, but I really have no clue.  LOL


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:38
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

A Change of Seasons gets my vote as well. One of the best pieces of all time.

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Dream Theater and ACOS.

No Transatlantic?????

Almost every TA tune is an epic.

This is a 90s poll; all of Transatlantic's music was released in the next decade.

Yeah...I realize that now.

 



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Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:38

Porcupine Tree's "The Sky Moves Sideways"- 35 minute alternate version is exceptional!



Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:40
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by HeirToRuin HeirToRuin wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Hey HtR, why didn't you include Spock's Beard's "The Water" in your poll?



ARGH!  I was just listing stuff off the top of my head, and I haven't really listened to much Spock's Beard pre-V at this time so it just didn't occur to me.  I'll be sure to give that a listen today.

...It was kind of a joke. Silly song.

You gave me this home and then you left me alone.......

And I think arguably Morse's worst lyric is on this album:

I am Seņor Velasco, I drink my milk with Tobasco



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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:42

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

And I'm not too fond of the studio version of ACOS, the Live Scenes... version is so much better.

I disagree. I think the studio version is amazing. Furthermore, there are a couple of problems I have with the live version: first, it isn't really much of a problem, but during "The Darkest of Winters," when everybody has a short solo, they all do something goofy. It was comical, but I love the riffs on the studio version. Second, LaBrie sings a couple of notes off key toward the end (which is realy the only flaw I've ever heard on a live Dream Theater recording).



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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:43
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Voyage 34 can be boring!

ACOS cannot!

Tell me you agree that the Live Scenes from New York version is better.

Don't remember!



I do, and I like the studio version better
 

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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:47

oops.



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Posted By: Progshrike
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 16:05
Love "A Change Of Seasons" but gotta go with "A Pleasant Shade Of Gray", by far Fates Warning's masterpiece.

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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 16:11
DT - A Change Of Seasons

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 16:14
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

And I'm not too fond of the studio version of ACOS, the Live Scenes... version is so much better.

I disagree. I think the studio version is amazing. Furthermore, there are a couple of problems I have with the live version: first, it isn't really much of a problem, but during "The Darkest of Winters," when everybody has a short solo, they all do something goofy. It was comical, but I love the riffs on the studio version. Second, LaBrie sings a couple of notes off key toward the end (which is realy the only flaw I've ever heard on a live Dream Theater recording).

I really like the solos in The Darkest of Winters. Rudess's is far superior than the one that Sherinian recorded. And I'm not really bothered by one or two of key notes by LaBrie (I mean he's LaBrie, everyone knows he makes mistakes sometimes, but nowadays he sings perfectly).



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Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 16:44
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by HeirToRuin HeirToRuin wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Hey HtR, why didn't you include Spock's Beard's "The Water" in your poll?



ARGH!  I was just listing stuff off the top of my head, and I haven't really listened to much Spock's Beard pre-V at this time so it just didn't occur to me.  I'll be sure to give that a listen today.

...It was kind of a joke. Silly song.

You gave me this home and then you left me alone.......

And I think arguably Morse's worst lyric is on this album:

I am Seņor Velasco, I drink my milk with Tobasco


The Light is such a crazy song.  I love the line "I am the catfish man!!!!!!!!! I can't hear you!!!"


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 18:15

I dont believe it, I've only heard ACOS hear

*note to self "must buy more CD's"*

BTW were is The Sky Moves Sideways. Both Phase 1&2 are brilliant as is the 34 minute alternate version.



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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 18:26
A change of seasons 

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Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 18:38

 

WHERE IS...

- IQ: THE NARROW MARGIN (SUBTERRANEA)?



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 18:53
Originally posted by Prog-man Prog-man wrote:

 

WHERE IS...

- IQ: THE NARROW MARGIN (SUBTERRANEA)?

Haven't gotten into that album yet!  I think it's not too interesting (kinda like a lot of IQ's material) IMO of course.



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 18:56
Originally posted by Erpland316 Erpland316 wrote:

Porcupine Tree's "The Sky Moves Sideways"- 35 minute alternate version is exceptional!

Ya know, I wouldn't even consider that an epic. With a lot of the atmospherical stuff on that album (as well as Voyage 34, though to a lesser degree), it just doesn't have an epic feel. As far as I can remember, there are no tempo shifts, grand chord progressions, rises and falls, movements and other such things that appear in epics. I just consider it a long, atmospheric experience.  An enjoyable on at that.



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Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 19:25
ACOS, easy!

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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 20:28
As much as I would like to vote for A Change of Seasons, I voted for Garden of Dreams.  Garden of Dreams is just one of the most perfectly composed epics out there and it's equally as poweful split into two parts live.  If the Dream Theater epic was Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, I might have a more difficult choice, but that's 2002. 

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 02:56
A Change Of Seasons really is a great track, both musically as well as lyrically  !


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 10:23

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

As much as I would like to vote for A Change of Seasons, I voted for Garden of Dreams.  Garden of Dreams is just one of the most perfectly composed epics out there and it's equally as poweful split into two parts live.  If the Dream Theater epic was Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, I might have a more difficult choice, but that's 2002. 

You never fail to suprise me tlossy.



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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 16:16
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

As much as I would like to vote for A Change of Seasons, I voted for Garden of Dreams.  Garden of Dreams is just one of the most perfectly composed epics out there and it's equally as poweful split into two parts live.  If the Dream Theater epic was Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, I might have a more difficult choice, but that's 2002. 

You never fail to suprise me tlossy.

What's that supposed to mean?



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