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Topic: Sonar anyone
Posted By: cobb
Subject: Sonar anyone
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 22:37
Any Sonar users out there?



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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 22:42
I am a cave dwelling blind rodent so of course I use sonar.

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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 23:33
Thanks for that Damen....

I know I haven't elaborated, but any using it will know what I am talking about.


Posted By: darren
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 00:24

My dear wife got me Sonar for Christmas. Total surprise. She somehow found out what I wanted. I had no idea she knew what it was. She has been after me to get rid of an old pair of headphones that have the rubber ear pieces crumbling (and turning my ear black when I wear them). I unwrapped my gift and the logo on the package made me think it was a new set of headphones. It took several minutes to sink in.

However, it's a steep learning curve for me. I'm still fiddling with it but I can't get 2% of what it's capable of.

 

Hey, Damian, how's that? I talked about it without revealing what it was.



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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen


Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 03:17
Sonar? The music program?

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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 04:29
True... Lindsay L

Any experience with it?


Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 05:45
I think i have it somewhere but i have not used it alot

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Posted By: jesperz
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 11:30
The Drum Manufacturer? Sonar Drums?



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Posted By: Lerxst
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 18:12
I did in the early 90's..great kit!



Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 21:26
The program is a music studio for PC by Cakewalk. Puts a recording studio on your desktop. The greatest thing since sliced bread.... for a musician.


Posted By: darren
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 06:43

Originally posted by cobb cobb wrote:

The greatest thing since sliced bread.... for a musician.

... well at least for us that can't afford the latest Logic Pro software and the big honkin' Mac to run it.



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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen


Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 00:23
So, nobody uses sonar...
What music recording software do the musicians on this site use then?


Posted By: darren
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 02:08
Used Sonar tonight. Still learning. Made a short instrumental. Awful music but the sound quality was great. Wish I wasn't so busy with everything else so I could create more. I do have some video projects coming up. I'm going to record music for it (solves the problem of copyright).

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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen


Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 02:46
Excellent darren. Are you using midi instruments or recording directly into it?


Posted By: darren
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 19:34

I'm using a beginner's keyboard that I borrowed from my nephew. I'm new to midi. I find some of the sounds are not very accurate. I also discovered you pretty much have to abuse it a bit to get great sounds. By this I mean that you set it for trumpet and play the low register notes and it sounds closer to a trombone than the trombone setting. One of the settings for a bass is better played on the upper notes and sound closer to a violin than the violin setting, etc.

I'm just getting used to using everything. Short forty five second stuff just to get practice on using several tracks.

I haven't plugged my guitar in yet or record flute. I did use it to make a couple of radio commercials and it came in really handy since I had to carefully edit some stuff out.   

So, what are you working on?



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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen


Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 22:36
I use it all the time for recording and midi for our covers band. The midi makes excellent backing stuff when played through a Roland midi player, which through a PA sounds just like there was an actual Roland instrument there.


Posted By: darren
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 07:44

Which Roland midi player?

 



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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen


Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: March 26 2006 at 08:51
It's an aging SD-35 Soundcanvas player. Uses floppy discs. Unfortunately they are 720k discs and they are getting very hard to come by... But it still plays like treat.


Posted By: Jaydubz
Date Posted: April 12 2006 at 18:13
I'm a big fan of Sonar - currenly using Version 4 Producers Edition.  It's very intuitive, and behaves well with its sister product, Project 5 Version 2...as well as Rewiring seamlessly with Reason & Melodyne.  The MIDI capabilites of Sonar are particularly sweet.   If you're considering doing music on a PC, Sonar may be a great choice for you!

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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: April 13 2006 at 01:23
^^Are you doing any recording with Sonar 4 and having lock up problems? I had a hell of time with 4 until I put on 5.


Posted By: Jaydubz
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 20:42
^ Actually, no - I can probably count the times it's acted up on one hand...and that's precisely the reason I haven't upgraded to 5 yet.  Then again, I'm not really doing a lot of esoteric things with Sonar - the only time I run into problems is when I hit my "memory roof" by havbing too many softsynths crunching at once!

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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 07:40
I used to be a big fan of Cakewalk - around version 3 - then things got ropey when they first added Audio in v4.

We have Sonar 4 on our studio PC, but find it orders of magnitude less friendly than Sony ACID Pro, which we use exclusively these days.

The results can be heard on my MySpace profile - but that doesn't mean you'll like the music - it ain't Prog Rock, although "Modern Man" is kinda proggish in the mid section.

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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 08:58
Nice songs Cert. Excellent vocal effects. Loved Monkey. Am I wrong, or does it sound more 'finished' than the other three? Just listening to Monkey again, while writing this- it really is good.


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 15:30
I must admit that until we finished "Something In The Way" last week, "Monkey" was my favourite too - thanks for the comments!

The vocal effects are largely done using Antares and Sonitus plug ins. I don't know too much about them - that's Andy's domain.

Monkey was pretty much finished in it's first incarnation - a single session resulted in the complete song and rough sketches of the guitar parts and organ, so every subsequent session has been a polish of the original, while other songs have been elongated, edited and generally cut and pasted about.

Having said that, we're only up to mix 9 on "Monkey" - some other songs are up to mix 20 and beyond. The mix on the MySpace site is actually mix 7 - we're waiting for our real drummer to complete his drum programming, and I've got to re-record the real bass, as my first attempt was a bit of a bodge.

The bass on mix 7 is the same synth line that we used for the prototype for mix 1, and I'm particularly averse to synth basses, unless used for effect - so it needs to die!

I also need to come up with a solo for the section after the white noise/feedback in the bridge - so I'm frantically searching the LickLibrary.com archives. Surprisingly, the best DVD I've found to plunder ideas from is called "50 Killer Metal Licks", featuring Danny Gill - but I can't play that fast... yet!


Thanks again for the comments about the music!

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