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Topic: Favourite song on ’Tormato’
Posted By: Winter Wine
Subject: Favourite song on ’Tormato’
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:01
I'm amazed some people don't enjoy this album.

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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:03
"Onward" is simply achingly beautiful to my ears. 

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:07
On the Silent Wings of Freedom for me.... as good as anything Yes put out on previous albums IMO. 

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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:19
"Tormato" isn't my favourite album (too many average songs)...

My vote goes to "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" - technically excellent 


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:20
going for the one & tormato are two of my favorites...   I vote arriving ufo...i


Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:23

Originally posted by MattiR MattiR wrote:

"Tormato" isn't my favourite album (too many average songs)...

My vote goes to "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" - technically excellent 

Is it just me? But I can't see many average songs, Maybe 'Circus of Heaven', And 'Don't Kill the Whale', But I don't mind them. What do you think are the average songs?



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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:27
'Release Release'-probably Yes's first  all out ROCK song!


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:30
Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

going for the one & tormato are two of my favorites...   I vote arriving ufo...i


I do like listening to that song as well...  Release, Release is another fun song to listen to...

I do feel Tormato's songs get more flack than they deserve.... the production was an absolute mess and Wakeman really wasn't up to snuff on the album, to say nothing of that ghasty sound he has.... Where was the Hammond Organ!!!???? hahahah.  All in all still a great album if you enjoy listening to virtuosos play over top of each other......otherwise still a fairly good album.


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Posted By: WillieThePimp
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:31
I voted for "Don't Kill the Whale", it has good guitar work and a beautiful ending and it was the first Yes song I learned to play.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:34
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

'Release Release'-probably Yes's first  all out ROCK song!


oh yeah...I like that song  I get a kick of Squire's bass fill in the 2nd verse.... Yes could 'rock the house' if they wanted to.

I mean it's not Gates of Delirium... but that doesn't mean it (or the rest of the album for that matter) is without merit...


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:35
Arriving UFO has always been my favourite!

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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:38
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by MattiR MattiR wrote:

"Tormato" isn't my favourite album (too many average songs)...

My vote goes to "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" - technically excellent 

Is it just me? But I can't see many average songs, Maybe 'Circus of Heaven', And 'Don't Kill the Whale', But I don't mind them. What do you think are the average songs?



Yes is my favourite band all times 

Average songs from "Tormato" (for me) - "Rejoice" (part of first song), "Don't Kill The Whale", "Madrigal", "Arriving UFO" and "Circus of Heaven". Too many...


 



Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:40

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

going for the one & tormato are two of my favorites...   I vote arriving ufo...i


I do like listening to that song as well...  Release, Release is another fun song to listen to...

I do feel Tormato's songs get more flack than they deserve.... the production was an absolute mess and Wakeman really wasn't up to snuff on the album, to say nothing of that ghasty sound he has.... Where was the Hammond Organ!!!???? hahahah.  All in all still a great album if you enjoy listening to virtuosos play over top of each other......otherwise still a fairly good album.

When I bought the album recently I was expecting bad production. The production is fine though and some songs sound very orchestrated, The production gives some tracks like 'Arriving UFO' a kind of boost, Is it just because I have the latest remaster? Which is pretty great on all accounts. I really like the essay in the sleeve too

Wakeman's God forsaking 'Birotron' isn't very nice I agree, He doesn't use it to too much extent though, Which is good, His playing (And songwriting) is on top form and he very often shines on the album.



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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:49
I have always liked this album except for one thing .... NO CLOWNS!!LOL

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:52
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

going for the one & tormato are two of my favorites...   I vote arriving ufo...i


I do like listening to that song as well...  Release, Release is another fun song to listen to...

I do feel Tormato's songs get more flack than they deserve.... the production was an absolute mess and Wakeman really wasn't up to snuff on the album, to say nothing of that ghasty sound he has.... Where was the Hammond Organ!!!???? hahahah.  All in all still a great album if you enjoy listening to virtuosos play over top of each other......otherwise still a fairly good album.

When I bought the album recently I was expecting bad production. The production is fine though and some songs sound very orchestrated, The production gives some tracks like 'Arriving UFO' a kind of boost, Is it just because I have the latest remaster? Which is pretty great on all accounts. I really like the essay in the sleeve too

Wakeman's God forsaking 'Birotron' isn't very nice I agree, He doesn't use it to too much extent though, Which is good, His playing (And songwriting) is on top form and he very often shines on the album.



ahhh.... that's the beauty of music and not relying too much on what you read and judging the music on it's own merits.  From what I understand though.. the group felt differently about Wakeman's input.  You know the ol' Yes motto... if you don't measure up... they'll find someone who will. May well have been the seeds of the upcomming 'break-up'.  Wakeman had patched things up with Anderson.. now Squire and Howe were not happy with Wakeman. Production wise... I don't think it measure up to earlier albums... the lack of Offord in the studio hurt for sure... it's not bad I just don't think it measures up to the stellar standards they had not more than a few albums earlier. Howe and Wakeman both felt the other were encroaching upon their 'areas' and were playing over each other as one example.  It could have been a MUCH better album.. that seems to be the sentiment of the band.. and most fans..


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Posted By: ryba
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:56
tormato is one of my top favorites of yes (magnification, ctte, fragile, totto). all the songs are marvelluos, i vote for onward.


Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 14:59
Onward! this is really a good album

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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:00
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

going for the one & tormato are two of my favorites...   I vote arriving ufo...i


I do like listening to that song as well...  Release, Release is another fun song to listen to...

I do feel Tormato's songs get more flack than they deserve.... the production was an absolute mess and Wakeman really wasn't up to snuff on the album, to say nothing of that ghasty sound he has.... Where was the Hammond Organ!!!???? hahahah.  All in all still a great album if you enjoy listening to virtuosos play over top of each other......otherwise still a fairly good album.

When I bought the album recently I was expecting bad production. The production is fine though and some songs sound very orchestrated, The production gives some tracks like 'Arriving UFO' a kind of boost, Is it just because I have the latest remaster? Which is pretty great on all accounts. I really like the essay in the sleeve too

Wakeman's God forsaking 'Birotron' isn't very nice I agree, He doesn't use it to too much extent though, Which is good, His playing (And songwriting) is on top form and he very often shines on the album.



ahhh.... that's the beauty of music and not relying too much on what you read and judging the music on it's own merits.  From what I understand though.. the group felt differently about Wakeman's input.  You know the ol' Yes motto... if you don't measure up... they'll find someone who will. May well have been the seeds of the upcomming 'break-up'.  Wakeman had patched things up with Anderson.. now Squire and Howe were not happy with Wakeman. Production wise... I don't think it measure up to earlier albums... the lack of Offord in the studio hurt for sure... it's not bad I just don't think it measures up to the stellar standards they had not more than a few albums earlier. Howe and Wakeman both felt the other were encroaching upon their 'areas' and were playing over each other as one example.  It could have been a MUCH better album.. that seems to be the sentiment of the band.. and most fans..

That's odd, Howe called the Wakeman penned 'Madrigal', 'A beautiful moment'.

As Wakeman said 'It could've been tremendous', To be honest I like the richness of Tormato, It has a peculiar unique sound I like! But I do see room for improvement.



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Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:02

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

I'm amazed some people don't enjoy this album.

Yes...here I am...it's a so mediocre album...very far from Yes highest moments that IMO ends with Relayer....Yes's last 5 star album!

...anyway i vote for Madrigal!



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:09
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

going for the one & tormato are two of my favorites...   I vote arriving ufo...i


I do like listening to that song as well...  Release, Release is another fun song to listen to...

I do feel Tormato's songs get more flack than they deserve.... the production was an absolute mess and Wakeman really wasn't up to snuff on the album, to say nothing of that ghasty sound he has.... Where was the Hammond Organ!!!???? hahahah.  All in all still a great album if you enjoy listening to virtuosos play over top of each other......otherwise still a fairly good album.

When I bought the album recently I was expecting bad production. The production is fine though and some songs sound very orchestrated, The production gives some tracks like 'Arriving UFO' a kind of boost, Is it just because I have the latest remaster? Which is pretty great on all accounts. I really like the essay in the sleeve too

Wakeman's God forsaking 'Birotron' isn't very nice I agree, He doesn't use it to too much extent though, Which is good, His playing (And songwriting) is on top form and he very often shines on the album.



ahhh.... that's the beauty of music and not relying too much on what you read and judging the music on it's own merits.  From what I understand though.. the group felt differently about Wakeman's input.  You know the ol' Yes motto... if you don't measure up... they'll find someone who will. May well have been the seeds of the upcomming 'break-up'.  Wakeman had patched things up with Anderson.. now Squire and Howe were not happy with Wakeman. Production wise... I don't think it measure up to earlier albums... the lack of Offord in the studio hurt for sure... it's not bad I just don't think it measures up to the stellar standards they had not more than a few albums earlier. Howe and Wakeman both felt the other were encroaching upon their 'areas' and were playing over each other as one example.  It could have been a MUCH better album.. that seems to be the sentiment of the band.. and most fans..

That's odd, Howe called the Wakeman penned 'Madrigal', 'A beautiful moment'.

As Wakeman said 'It could've been tremendous', To be honest I like the richness of Tormato, It has a peculiar unique sound I like! But I do see room for improvement.



take a looksie at page 5 in the liner notes to the Tormato remaster.... Howe and Wakeman disagreed on the arrangements of the guitar and keyboards.  Steve Howe, from stories I've heard over the years, is a perfectionist,  a bit high strung (why he turned to meditation), and prone to feel 'slights'. I tend to believe what I've heard about problems at the time between them. Anyway there is a great story I wish I had time to tell but I need to run.. that is indicutive of Howe's personality on the Symphonic Yes DVD.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 15:20
Good poll Winter Wine. I can't believe nobody's voted for "Circus of Heaven"
For me it's a straight choice between Release Release and Silent Wings, and I've gone for Release as I love the chorus.

Honorable mention for Onward - well, the live version on Keys to Ascension anway. What an improvement once the guitar is replaced with an acoustic, and the vocals are just brilliant.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 21:05
this is my 4th fave yes album behind TYA, Fragile and CTTE ;)


Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 06:10
Don’t Kill the Whale, is nice  the album gets *** from me they have ofcourse made beter one but this is not that bad as some try to make you belive.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 06:22

Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

going for the one & tormato are two of my favorites...   I vote arriving ufo...i

So vote for it then!



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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 06:25
I bought this album many years ago wanting to defy the critics.  After all, there were people who thought Tales was crap, so who cares what anybody thinks?

The result was an album that was...OK.  But not up to par with previous work.

For me, the outstanding gem was "On the Silent Wings of Freedom".  Absolutely love that intro.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 07:58
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

I bought this album many years ago wanting to defy the critics.  After all, there were people who thought Tales was crap, so who cares what anybody thinks?

The result was an album that was...OK.  But not up to par with previous work.

For me, the outstanding gem was "On the Silent Wings of Freedom".  Absolutely love that intro.


  you summed up my feelings on it to a T


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Posted By: Jools
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 08:01

"On The Silent Wings Of Freedom" is my favourite closely followed by "Onward".  I gave this album a lot of time when I first bought it but I felt then and now that it's just not the Yes I got into.

  "Drama" has more in comparison with the original spirit of Yes and thats got two completely new members.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 08:14
i did snow dud


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 08:57

Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

i did snow dud

Well maybe you did now, but you hadn't previously.



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Posted By: LordOfTheRings
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 13:23

dont kill the whale ........please

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

kill

lot of sharks thogh

 

 

corporate sharks!!!!



Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 13:56
although very cheesy,I am very fond to Don't Kill The Whale............but my vote would probably go to On The Silent Wings Of Freedom...although not really sure,cause I'm not into Tormato very much...

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Posted By: piltdown man
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 14:36

Someone referred to my favourite Circus of Heaven as average...To some extent I agree! It is a simple, somewhat naive song, with no extreme intrumental passages. Yet there are some great guitarbits by Howe. 

What captures me most are the lyrics.  I´m usually not that fond of Andersons lyrics - there is to much sciencefiction/fantasy/religious mumbojumbo etc. But in this song in all fits in. What a intersting idea - what if the circus of heaven would come to town? The end with a somewhat disapointed Anderson Jr saying "Oh it was Ok, but there was no clowns..." just summons it up. It´s hard to impress the young ones!



Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 16:21

I like Tormato! My favourite song is the first one: Future Times: Rejoice. Very original melody line. Adventurous Yes stuff once again.



Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 16:23
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by yankeerose yankeerose wrote:

i did snow dud

Well maybe you did now, but you hadn't previously.

You're a Snow Dog, remember, not a Watch Dog



Posted By: Devil's Haircut
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 11:07

I vote for 'Release, Release', I love the energy in the song, The guitar and drum parts are amazing!!



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 12:21
Originally posted by Devil's Haircut Devil's Haircut wrote:

I vote for 'Release, Release', I love the energy in the song, The guitar and drum parts are amazing!!



so much energy that I believe I read that they dropped it from their setlist on the supporting tour for the album.... hmmm... oh well... great song.


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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 12:26
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Devil's Haircut Devil's Haircut wrote:

I vote for 'Release, Release', I love the energy in the song, The guitar and drum parts are amazing!!



so much energy that I believe I read that they dropped it from their setlist on the supporting tour for the album.... hmmm... oh well... great song.

It's wierd, The track has a live feel to it in the first place!



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 15:17
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Devil's Haircut Devil's Haircut wrote:

I vote for 'Release, Release', I love the energy in the song, The guitar and drum parts are amazing!!



so much energy that I believe I read that they dropped it from their setlist on the supporting tour for the album.... hmmm... oh well... great song.

It's wierd, The track has a live feel to it in the first place!



the story is....

"When Alan White spoke at the Computers and MIDI discussion at Microsoft I asked him if the band had ever performed RELEASE RELEASE. His reply was that they did it only a couple of times on the east coast; a friend who attended one of those shows still has a newpaper clipping with a review of the concert and the reviewer raved specifically about that song. But Alan said they dropped it because the energy level was so extremely high, and Jon had to sing at such a high energy pitch, that the band was totally drained after performing it; the way Alan put it was that after they finished the song they'd look at each other as if to say, can't we stop, do we HAVE to continue the concert, the song was so exhausting!"

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 17:02

Arriving UFO

Alan White is excellent here and throughout the whole album.




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