Biggest Disappointments
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Topic: Biggest Disappointments
Posted By: Trav67
Subject: Biggest Disappointments
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:08
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Over the past few weeks I have seen topics reguarding Best albums, Greatest of all time, Best releases over the past couple of years, and so on. My question is: what are some of the biggest disappointments from bands that you were really looking forward to? Whether they be recent or from years ago.
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:18
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These come immediatly to mind are consisdered the obiglitory one's:
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:36
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:38
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Pendragon - Not Of this World ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:41
Leftoverture is the only Kansas album I can stomach. My biggest disapointments were:
------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
The Miracle wrote:Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:46
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That's the only one I have and I just don't like it
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:52
Sorry friend, no hard feelings. ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 21:00
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Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Angel Station Kansas - Power ELO - Secret Messages (and everything after that) Asia - Astra Jethro Tull - A Mostly Autumn - Pink Floyd Revisited Kate Bush - The Red Shoes ------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 21:10
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In recent times Dt's Octavarium. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 21:18
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The title track just about saves it!!! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 21:39
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 21:55
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Van der Graaf Generator - Vital ----- Not quite so vital! It's still good though, but disappointing for them. Coheed and Cambria - Good Apollo I've got a really stupid name IV: I like peanuts - Into the Fire... Blah... -------------   
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 01:20
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I felt slightly disppointed by it at first (I don't know if you were a fan prior to that album or not, but I was). It grew on me quickly, and now I love it. I'll save all of my other discrepancies with other posts though. I don't get disappointed often, at least without significant growth, but here are ones I could think of:
I'm only coming from the perspective of a fan hearing a new album for the first time. If I was around or a fan when a lot of disappointing albums came out, I would have listed them too. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 01:40
thinking of seconding that...it was not something big for me either... ------------- 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 01:49
I find anything under 8/10 disappointing so I would have to say probably 50% of every prog CD I have bought is , not so much with 70`s prog thats got a high hit ratio but some of the new more modern prog and prog metal I am buying often misses the target, despite the research I put in and the glowing reviews I read before I buy (I`m getting a bit sick of it actually)  I know a modern progressive masterpiece when I hear it and the last one I remember hearing was probably Trent Gardner's Leonardo "the absolute man" that was about 4 years ago 
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 01:55
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Symphony X - V: Heard so much about them only to find they bored me DT - Falling Into Infinity: Great band, sucky album Yes - Union: Huh? Just crap Shadow Gallery - Carved In Stone: Again, heard great things...didnt hear it. Kansas - Vinyl Confessions: Lost something, and big In Response: GTR - Liked, not loved it. Thought some songs were quality Triumvirat - A La Carte: I did like (not love) it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: DantesRing
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 06:03
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Hands down: Genesis - 'Calling All Stations' They had an opportunity to revitalize their sound, but all we got was a Mike & the Mechanics rehash with ever song played at the exact same Slooooooowww tempo. Not godawful as everyone has suggested, just boring. Also Roger Waters 'To Kill A Child / Leaving Beirut' single. First release of new music from the man in over a decade and it is everything but musical. Primarily a speech over some glacially paced non-melodic soundscapes. What a disappointment. ------------- I'm the shadow man, the jumping jack The man who can, but won't look back |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 06:27
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Kate Bush "Hounds of Love"....that 80s production! Eeeeeeek! Marillion "...Jester's Tears"...or something like that. Guess I'm just not one for modern prog. Yes "Going for the One"....though I've come to like parts of the album, when first getting into Yes it was horrifying to listen to. That slick production and that metalic sound....it's still a record I rarely return to and then only for the second side. Agree with the above post that mentioned "Calling All Stations"....a chance to prog it up but no go. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Hesselius
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 07:50
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Magic Pie: Motions of Desire
Moon Safari: A Doorway to Summer Maybe I should give them another try ------------- This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 08:07
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Camel - the Snow Goose- It was supposed to be the best ever to be created, alas it was far from that. ELP - Trilogy- Meh. ------------- http://www.soundclick.com/rosescar/ - My music! "THE AUDIENCE WERE generally drugged. (In Holland, always)." - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 08:08
This sounds like one is getting disillusionned by Neo-Prog. Something like that was happening to me about 2 years ago. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 09:07
Gong's mediocre 'Shamal', after their masterpiece ending of the Gnome
trilogy 'You'. I wasn't prepared like I was with Gentle Giant post '76.
Yes 'Going for the One' was much worse than I thought it would be
as well. Tangerine Dream's 'Force Majeure' seems to have a lot of fans,
I'm not one of them. The no. 1(!) progalbum of last year on this site 'Deadwing' by Porcupine Tree. What's that all about? Even PT has made a couple of better albums than that one. It pains me to admit that I think VdGG's album 'Present', third on the same list, was nothing special either. Good to get all that out of the system, and into this thead.  ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 22:58
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Yes- Close to the Edge That's right, I don't like Yes. With all the ridiculous praise heaped upon this album, I thought that it was going to be great, but it just makes me angry. ELP- Trilogy. I really like BSS because of Jerusalem, Toccata, and Karn Evil 9, so I was looking forward to this, but I find it incredibly boring. King Crimson- ITCOTCK. Fans go saying things like "Best debut album ever" or even "Best album ever". It's really not that good! Schizoid Man-pretty good; I talk to the Wind-Uhhh...What? Not bad, if a tad boring Epitaph- The intro sounds exactly like The Moody Blues, and stealing/alluding to Simon and Garfunkel irritates me. Moonchild- A complete waste of time. It sounds like they recorded the first 3 minutes, finished the rest of the album, then said "Crap! It's only 30 minutes long, we need to find get 10 more minutes! I know, we'll IMPROVISE. Yeah, it'll be great!" Epitaph- Pretty good. I always feel let down though at the end of it though. |
Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:44
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Genesis: From Genesis to Revelation Marillion: Marillion.com Dream Theater: Train of Thought Rush: Vapor Trails Kansas: Monolith Magellan: Test of Wills Jethro Tull: Rock Island
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(and I really like this bands...)Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:49
My thoughts exactly |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 03:02
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Marillion - Clutching at Straws and all from 90s
Genesis - everything after Gabriel's leaving Yes,Arena and Pendragon - almost everything Rush,Flower Kings and Spock's Beard - everything Twelfth Night and Pallas - am I expected too much?
Dream Theater - Falling into Octavarium
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 03:04
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 03:09
What's wrong?I just like Train of Awake and Scenes from Images and Words 
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Posted By: progrockgirl
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 03:24
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I had heard that St. Elmo's Fire were a great band for a mellotron fan,
but I didn't like the album Splitting Ions much at all. I'm warming up
to a few of the tracks, but the vocals are horrible and thankfully not
in every song. Also, IQ Nomzano was so bad that I traded it in for Liquid Tension Experiment. Seventh House was much better if a tad boring. I'm not sure at this point if I should attempt any more of their albums. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 03:43
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Dream Theater- Octavarium, very diferent to any7 other DT album as they tried something new but very boreing compared to previous albums. Yes- Close To The Edge, I've read so many reviews saying this is the best prog album ever, I find it boreing, especially side 1, SK was a good song though. Porcupine Tree- Deadwing, Hard to imagine that this is the same band that made The Sky Moves Sideways. Though change can be good, not in this case and the album didnt feel like a prog record. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Jools
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:16
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I think I read somewhere that It Bites were Marillion's only serious contemporary (later found out about IQ and Twelfth Night) so embarked on a quest to find their albums. Boy, what a disappointment, sounds to me just like very cheesy 80's pop music that has dated incredibly badly. If anyone can tell me an album of theirs that is proggy or at the very least rocks harder I'd appreciate it. ------------- Ridicule is the burden of genius. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:26
 David Gilmour "" on a island"" very imweak.. Kate Bush(new cd) sreeshing chalk sound. im sure the new Donald Fagen due out tommorrow will be a big disappointment too...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:42
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Once Around The World........The Proggiest Eat Me In ASt Louis........The heaviest. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 14:12
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Definitely Asia's first album - I think it was THE prog disappointment, bar none. Then I'd mention Kate Bush's "The Red Shoes" (but what a masterpiece her latest is!), Marillion's "Misplaced Childhood" (bores me to tears) and probably many others. Another extremely disappointing effort, though non-prog, is Metallica's famed "Black Album". It bores me even more than Marillion.... All the songs sound the same. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 06:25
You SHOULD.Just believe me.Try The Wake or Dark Matter.Nomzamo and AYSC? are the weakest IQ releases.You may also try Subterranea or Ever
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Posted By: Sharier
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 09:06
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I can accept bad albums of a good bands if that was made when they were
novices (From Genesis to revelation, for instance)-- but I can't accept
bad albums after they have matured. A real disappointment comes from high expectations: my biggest disappointment was Genesis Abacab; then my expectations lowered about Genesis. From Yes, after Union I thought Yes is a goner for good. Jethro Tull's Under Wraps is a height of disappointment. Horrible. New Wave! All of Mike Oldfield's albums containing songs after 1981, minus Crisis & Wind chimes, are purely horrible. Pink Floyd's Wall and post-wall albums are simply an ego-maniac's dark poetry. Little or no music there. Rush went down the drain after Signals-- but not all of the post-signals songs are bad. |
Posted By: stelmogcx
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 18:00
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Biggest disappointment ever? It has to be when The Enid decided to go for the yoof market and went out on the road as "Enid" playing acid house (or whatever the dance craze was at the time) versions of the old classics in the early 90s. Unfortunately I paid to go and see them on that tour, thinking it couldn't be as bad as all that - it was... As I recall, they came on and played about 20 minutes, then went off. We didn't hang around to see of there would be any more.... Worst gig ever :(
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Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 18:37
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Yes-Open Your Eyes, released only a few months after the release of "Keys to Ascension II" which included much better and promising stuff. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 18:50
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My biggest dissapointments so far are : Pink Floyd - the wall King Crimson - Discipline Camel - Raindance ------------- 
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 19:02
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Stream of passion. Not up to Ayreon standards. Come to think of it "Storms over still water" from Mostly Autumn was an even bigger dissapointment compared to the very good albums which they made before this. They've gone metal (slightly exaggerating here) and it's definitely not a success .I also find "The end is beautiful" from Echolyn not as good as "Suffocating the bloom" and "As the world". This is still a reasonably good album though. |
Posted By: Antennas
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 19:21
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I'm afraid I have to agree with you... and the recent concert we visited didn't make things better, sadly enough. ------------- 
Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 20:47
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For me, absolutely nothing. I research albums to death before I buy them.
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 21:01
Yes, the less said about this concert here the better i think  . |
Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 22:10
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Biggest disappointments? Tool's career.
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: March 24 2006 at 23:11
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Biggest disappointment has to be Octavarium After hearing so much good stuff about DT i bought this and have been regretting it ever since ------------- When the world is sick Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong 
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 06:04
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Biggest Disappointments....happily there are few..... GENESIS..."and then there were three..." - very low point in genesis' development, though phil took the band to greater heights in later years. DEEP PURPLE..."who do we think we are?" ...something very wrong going on here, internal conflicts show through. got to like this album later and purple got over their differences...! SUPERTRAMP..."some things never change"... supertramp-by-numbers. YES... "tales from topographic oceans" i agree with rick wakeman on this one..probably should have been mixed down to single lp. PINK FLOYD... "the final cut" ... the final PF album for me until my faith was completely restored with "division bell". HAWKIND..."alien 4"..alien bore if you ask me..!! QUEEN.."hot space"..experiment by the band that went badly wrong. -------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 06:22
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Strawbs - Nomadness. After a run of 5 (mostly) great albums, this was a real disappointment. And it didn't really get better for a long while. Horslips - The Unfortunate Cup of Tea. After 3 brilliant albums, this was way below par. Luckily, their next 2 were back brilliant (one a folk/traditional acoustic album and the other the amazing Book of Invasions) Pink Floyd - The Wall A total let down after Animals, Wish You Were Here etc. Camel - Breathless. Not actually bad (I still play it) but nowhere near the genius of the first 5 (but little else is either). Genesis - And Then There Were Three. When Hackett went, they went. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 06:38
When you did some research you must also have heared much bad stuff about the album ... so why did you ignore that? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: stelmogcx
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 06:54
I agree with these two. I never really made it past The Wall, which for me has about a single album's worth of great stuff on it, the rest doing very little for me. I thought '..Lapse of Reason' was a good return to form though, after Mr Water's departure. With Queen's Hot Space it wasn't so much disappointment, as resignation.. I think they'd signposted their direction with The Game and their choice of singles around that time. I was mightily pleased when they returned with The Works |
Posted By: hawkbrock
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 06:59
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Yes. Fragile. Too many ideas, not too many any good. I don't like the hardrock attempt that is South Side of the Sky, as Howe's playing/tone is not hard rock. I don't like the short jumbley track. I don't like the one made of loops of Anderson, his voice os OKAY with Yes, but on its own its annoying. I don't like the riprise of this filth on the end of Heart of the Sunrise either. I don't like Cans and Brahms either. Brahms was a genious, Wakeman is a prat, I mean, 5 layers of synths to reproduce orchestral music? thats poor. Also, ELP, I've allready said this haven't I? ------------- 
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Posted By: retuow
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 09:35
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That must be Sigur Ros. Lots of people told me they were/are great. So I got
the nameless album () and was quite disappointed by it. Not my kind of music ------------- Human beings were created by water to carry it uphill. |
Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 09:56
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Posted By: ____VdGG____
Date Posted: March 25 2006 at 14:12
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The ConstruKction of Light
Octavarium Hail To The Thief ------------- Iron throated monsters are forcing the screams; Mind and machinery box-press our dreams |