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Topic: Velvet Underground

Posted By: dralan
Subject: Velvet Underground
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 20:36

Any other Velvet Underground fans here? Which one of the first four studio albums do you prefer? Each very significant and very different from one another.

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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 22:07

I'm a big fan ... I love the first, third and even the fourth ... but the second album White Light/White Heat is one that still doesn't sit too well with me ...

Ultimately, the "obvious" debut is my favourite

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 22:31

Meh... never been much of an Underground fan. I guess it's because I'm a Zappa fan (and Zappa was a sworn enemy of Lou Reed).

And furthermore, I've never found their music to be entirely interesting.

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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 08:50

Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 10:08

I went for White Light mostly because of John Cale's The Present (or is it the gift

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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 11:04

Im not thire bigest fan only got 1 album and that is ofcourse The Velvet Underground & Nico, not planing to buy another one. Half of the songs on the album are very good the other half very boring, I think that sums em up preety well they are an incredible boring group no energy or fire yust boring colorles songs. Well meby thats the point, and yeah theyr incredible overrated by all the critics

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Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 16:13

Zargus wrote:

Im not thire bigest fan only got 1 album and that is ofcourse The Velvet Underground & Nico, not planing to buy another one. Half of the songs on the album are very good the other half very boring, I think that sums em up preety well they are an incredible boring group no energy or fire yust boring colorles songs. Well meby thats the point, and yeah theyr incredible overrated by all the critics

I heard the VU on the radio the other day. It was the first time I have ever heard them on commercial radio. This band birthed a movement of underground rock and was influential on the likes of Eno, Bowie, Talking Heads and U2 among many others. I don't think they can be overrated. Reed's Berlin album was also incredibly influential. Genesis toured supporting Reed in '73 and you can hear the influence of Berlin on Selling England.

Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 23:44

My wife once bought me this (actually, bought US):

A box set containing their 4 releases + additions (mentioned in this poll) and a cd of demo's and a booklet telling their biography.

	Disc 1 : 1. Venus In Furs [demo] (15:33) / 2. Prominent Men [demo] (4:53) / 3. Heroin [demo] (13:34) / 4. I'm Waiting For The Man [demo] (9:50) / 5. Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams [demo] (15:50) / 6. All Tomorrow's Parties [demo] (18:26). 1-6: recorded July 1965 at John Cale's Ludlow Street loft in Lower Manhattan.
	Disc 2 : 1. All Tomorrow's Parties [mono single version] (2:49) / 2. Sunday Morning (2:54) / 3. I'm Waiting For The Man (4:38) / 4. Femme Fatale (2:37) / 5. Venus In Furs (5:10) / 6. Run Run Run (4:19) / 7. All Tomorrow's Parties (5:58) / 8. Heroin (7:10) / 9. There She Goes Again (2:39) / 10. I'll Be Your Mirror (2:12) / 11. The Black Angel's Death Song (3:12) / 12. European Son (7:47) / 13. Melody Laughter [live] (10:43) / 14. It Was A Pleasure Then (8:02) / 15. Chelsea Girls (7:24). 1: first single (Verve VK-10427), released July 1966 / 2-12: The Velvet Underground & Nico, first album (Verve V/V6-5008), released March 1967 / 13: recorded live November 4, 1966 at the Valleydale Ballroom, Columbus, Ohio / 14-15: taken from the album Nico: Chelsea Girl (Verve V/V6-5032), originally released October 1967.
	Disc 3 : 1. There Is No Reason [demo] (2:12) / 2. Sheltered Life [demo] (2:52) / 3. It's All Right (The Way That You Live) [demo] (2:48) / 4. I'm Not Too Sorry (Now That You've Gone) [demo] (2:17) / 5. Here She Comes Now [demo] (2:46) / 6. Guess I'm Falling In Love [live] (4:10) / 7. Booker T. [live] (6:30) / 8. White Light/White Heat (2:45) / 9. The Gift (8:17) / 10. Lady Godiva's Operation (4:54) / 11. Here She Comes Now (2:02) / 12. I Heard Her Call My Name (4:36) / 13. Sister Ray (17:27) / 14. Stephanie Says (2:49) / 15. Temptation Inside Your Heart (2:30) / 16. Hey Mr. Rain (Version One) (4:40). 1-5: demo acetate, recorded early 1967 at Johnh Cale's Ludlow Street loft in Lower Manhattan / 6-7: recorded live in April 1967 at the Gymnasium, New York City / 8-13: White Light/White Heat, second album (Verve V/V6-5046), released January 1968 / 14-15: taken from VU (Verve 823-721-2), released February 1985 / 16: taken from Another View (Verve 829 405-2), released July 1986.
	Disc 4 : 1. What Goes On [live] (5:34) / 2. Candy Says (4:04) / 3. What Goes On (4:35) / 4. Some Kinda Love (3:39) / 5. Pale Blue Eyes (5:42) / 6. Jesus (3:24) / 7. Beginning To See The Light (4:47) / 8. I'm Set Free (4:04) / 9. That's The Story Of My Life (2:02) / 10. The Murder Mystery (8:55) / 11. After Hours (2:09) / 12. Foggy Notion (6:47) / 13. I Can't Stand It (3:22) / 14. I'm Sticking With You (2:28) / 15. One Of These Days (4:00) / 16. Lisa Says (2:57) / 17. It's Just Too Much [live] (2:59) / 18. Countess From Hong Kong [demo] (3:17). 1: recorded live October 4, 1968 at La Cave, Cleveland, Ohio / 2-11: The Velvet Underground alternate 'closet mix' version, third album (MGM SE 4617), released March 1969 / 12-16: taken from VU (Verve 823 721-2), released February 1985 / 17: recorded live October 19, 1969 at The End of Cole Ave., Dallas, Texas / 18: recorded late 1969.
	Disc 5 : 1. Who Loves The Sun (2:45) / 2. Sweet Jane [full length version] (4:06) / 3. Rock And Roll (4:43) / 4. Cool It Down (3:04) / 5. New Age [full length version] (5:07) / 6. Head Held High (2:56) / 7. Lonesome Cowboy Bill (2:43) / 8. I Found A Reason (4:15) / 9. Train Round The Bend (3:21) / 10. Oh! Sweet Nuthin' (7:25) / 11. Satellite Of Love (2:58) / 12. Walk And Talk (2:23) / 13. Oh Gin (2:44) / 14. Sad Song (3:30) / 15. Ocean (5:43) / 16. Ride Into the Sun (3:20) / 17. Some Kinda Love [live] (10:22) / 18. I'll Be Your Mirror [live] (2:06) / 19. I Love You (2:03). 1-10: Loaded, fourth album (Cotillion SD 9034), released September 1970 / 11-16 & 19: Loaded out-takes / 17-18: recorded live August 23, 1970 at Max's Kansas City, New York City. The only thing a bit annoying was that the cd covers did not have the original artwork. Anyway, that was a great gift. I would choose the first release of these.

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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 00:28

dralan:

Did you read my post on White Light/ White Heat? Love the Underground-very important band.

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Posted By: dralan
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 13:52

Witchwoodhermit wrote:

dralan:

Did you read my post on White Light/ White Heat? Love the Underground-very important band.

I just read it; hadnt seen it before. Very good post BTW. Yeah, I agree the Velvets are often written off as the original punk band or precursor to the industrial noise stlye, although they display many styles and influences in their music. Actually one of my personal favorites is the self-titled 3rd album which is very mellow and laid back in stark contrast to the chaos and experimentation of WL/WH. "Loaded" is probably the weakest of the four, yet still very influential in its own right. Too often dismissed by the art rock and prog crowd, embraced by avid and knowledgable alternative and punk rockers; the Velvets are worth a second listen to anyone interested.

Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 10:14

I like the song "Sweet Jane" and that's really it.

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Posted By: Zenith
Date Posted: March 23 2006 at 10:46

Love the Velvet's. WL / WH for me.

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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 04:19

the first one

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