French Prog!
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Topic: French Prog!
Posted By: ANDREW
Subject: French Prog!
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 10:42
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As Erik Neuteboom did with his "Spanish Prog" poll, here you can choose 3 or 5 albums that you like.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 10:48
And also
There are probably more I forgot to mention ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 11:24
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big Magma fan so they get two votes hahaha Kohntarksosz M.D.K. Oxygene Clearlight Symphony Eros have much to explore though... starting with Carpe Diem. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 12:02
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I do not know Shylock and Dun, and I do not like Heldon and Jean-Michel Jarre. All others in this list are among my favourites. As long as I can vote only for one - I voted for Asia Minor, as it is not likely that majority would share my enthusiasm about this particular band. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 12:06
I prefer "Crossing the Line " ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
eugene wrote:Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 12:59
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you should try to find a copy of Ose - Adonia, it
sounds like Cluster meets Fripp and to me is the best recording Richard Pinhas participated in outside of Lard Free, which it compares with. For all you Lard Heads! 
and Travelling and Triode still dont make your list???? whats up! Dun - Eros is one of the best albums released anywhere in the world from the 1980's. |
Posted By: Oxygen Waster
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 14:05
| I really like TAAL alot. |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 14:37
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At the moment TAAL is my absolutely favourite band - the best one, and, frankly I cannot see any competitors for my Number One for the time being. But here, I think, we are talking about much earlier stuff - 70's or so prog from France?! ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 15:01
No Lard Free ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 16:29
good call.. I got that on your recommend and love it.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 16:41
I could just list Magma's entire 70s output, but there was a lot of other great music in France at the time. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 18:22
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Sandrose their eponymous album: wonderful female vocals, lush Mellotron waves and excellent guitar work! Other good albums are Don Giovanni by Versailles and Still Dream by Edhels. New great French progrock bands are Maldoror and Nemo, check them out! |
Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 18:29
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taal is the absolute best. skymind is amazing ------------- HELP! |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 18:29
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Of course, top of this top had to be filled by... a PULSAR ALBUM!!! |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 21:52
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I have to check out most of those bands, but I love Magma, Dun, Taal and Jean-Luc Ponty. Taal isn't on the list, so I will vote for MDK, and Eros is a close runner up. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 23:28
How did I forget Dun, Taal and Maldoror?  ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 23:32
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http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=734 - SAENS ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 05 2006 at 23:51
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I am not too familiar with these but I think they are worth a mention: Memoriance, Etron Fou, Eskaton, Zao What do you think? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 00:00
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And what about SANDROSE? BTW- Memoriance is not listed on PA. It is a very obscure band and I have not heard much about it and heard only two (one and a half) song by them very long ago. They released two albums (symphonic style): Et Apres 1976, L'Ecume des Jours 1979 I am not in a position to suggest to add them. Does anyone (HMM...DallasBryan, Erik, ANDREW...HMM) know them? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 00:23
Eskaton - 4 Visions is very good, comparable with Dun - Eros with french vocals, as I remember. I heard one of the Memoriance albums but it was at least 12-15 years ago, remember it as top notch but I cant remember the title, think it was one of the above you listed. Zao is a little more fusion with Zeuhl tendancies. Kawana and Sherika are the best, though not up to par with Dun's, Eskaton's or maybe keyboardist Patrick Gauthier's Bebe Guerilla. 
======== avestin, you must remove yourself from the Neutral Zone. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 04:45
| No Avestin, I am not familiar with the sound of your last mentioned bands so I cannot add these. |
Posted By: Pylo
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 05:10
Not far behind :
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 05:22
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Alain Markusfeld/Le son tombé du ciel (1971)
is an unknown gem. There's a 10mn piece which is an absolute spacerock masterpiece. Somewhat closed to PF and Agitation free!! 
Here's what GEPR says about Alain Marksufeld: "Markusfeld, Alain [France] Le Monde En Etages (70), Le Son Tombe Du Ciel (71), Le Desert Noir (77), Platock (78), Contemporus (79), Live (80) French guitarist/multi-instrumentalist, very unique. His albums blend multi- layered acoustic guitars with fiery leads, piano, ethereal female voices, throbbing bass and percussion. His guitar style could be described as early Larry Coryell (acoustic) meets Randy California (electric) with a strong middle-eastern influence. Le Desert Noir is a heavier guitar album which features drums on almost every track, overall very hendrix influenced. With Platock, there is more maturity in his sound, combining delicate acoustic guitars and more piano to his trademark sound, with less reliance on drums. Contemporus attempts to continue in the same vein, but fails to reach the same energy level, except possibly on the sidelong "Contemporus" suite. Start with Platock, which most will agree is his best. First two releases are very rare. " |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 06:43
No, i don't know them. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 06:44
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The name of the underlined album is "Shekina", which is also my favourite one. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 07:32
| Nobody here voted for MAGMA's "Kobaia"; in my opinion it's not a bad album, it contains excellent jazz-rock songs inspired to SOFT MACHINE. From the next album "1001° Centigrades" the famous MAGMA style took shape; the music is more complex and menacing, rich of bizarre polyrhythmics, obsessive and ominous, especially in the emphatic vocalizations. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 07:39
I love that album....just MDK and Kohntarkosz more  Great jazz-rock!------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:19
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Yes, incredible double debut album!!! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:29
it's the one Magma album my wife can stay in the same room to....(not a prog fan hahaha) I think she likes Aurae... though I've seen her run for the door at the beginning of Stoah hahahahhha. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 10:02
If there is a Magma album in the room, me and my wife can't stay in the room ..  ...
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Posted By: Pylo
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 10:34
I have the two albums on tapes (recorded from vinyl) and ripped them on CD, (because they've never been re-released on CD) If it's enough to include them, let me know i'll send you line-ups, jpegs and a mp3 file. I could suggest a band called "Osm'oz" too, biography on the official site : http://www.osmoz.net - http://www.osmoz.net ------------- Pylo |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 10:52
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I dont blame her, most of their stuff is unbearable to the sane world.
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Posted By: Norm Cash
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 10:58
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I'm really disappointed not to see any mention of XII Alfonso on this poll/thread! "The Lost Frontier", "Odyssees", and the "Claude Monet" series are terrific albums! ------------- 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:09
What you can do is to post all your info in the "Suggest bands and albums" section in your own thread. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:12
 FRENCH PROG. IS ABOUT AS EXCITING AS SPANISH PROG. 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:26
Here's a mention to dis-disappoint you The Lost Frontier , Odyssees, Claude Monet - Volume 1, This Is, Claude Monet - Volume Deux, 1889-1904 I read you review of Claude Monet - Volume 1 but can you tell me and for those not familiar with them, a little more about this band and their albums, please? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:43
| Well, Ginnyman, open a thread about (your) interesting prog, I am looking forward to it, you can count on me for supportive contributions! |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:48
Erik, don't mind him he's just a troll. He posted negative, rude comments in a post-rock thread today too. I still say Lard Free is the best French band I've heard , but am interested in hearing more.------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:49
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Get out and leave us alone! ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:51
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I'll seek and listen to Lard Free as I am not too acquainted with them. Where do I start, MeurglysIII ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:54
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I will invite him on the Freudian bench, he has to talk about his ovious frustrations instead of acting out with rude comments, perhaps he will change into a friendly hobbit after some intense psycho-analytical sessions ..?!
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:54
I think, gents, you are missing the point. I believe that we are talking here about 70's French prog, as otherwise it would be a MUST to include in the list following great French prog bands: Taal 4/3 de trio Halloween Aside Beside XII Alfonso Nil Thork Silver Lining Cafeine Xang I believe there will be a lot of people to discuss above bands, but this would be another topic/poll all together.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 12:10
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 12:30
I am aware that it began as a 70's music thread but Nrom gave me an excuse to do so, I thought we could expand this a little but for the sake of good music. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 12:35
For the sake of good music I can agree with almost anything And really I would be quite interested to know forum's opinion about bands I mentionned...., but probably it's not the right place.... or whatever.... ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
.Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 12:55
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The main group that came to mind when I saw this "French Prog" thread (MALICORNE) isn't even listed. So the list seems rather incomplete... (no vote)
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 12:59
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To Flip_Stone It is not intended to be complete. The point is to state your preference (no pun intended) and if you feel something is missing, then say what it is and tell us something about them and just a simple comment we alreasy know... Now, would you care to elaborate on your addition to this open discussion? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 13:41
Exactly!!! This poll concerns French prog bands from the '70s. But recommendations about "new" French prog are well accepted. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 13:45
Well said!!! This poll is not incomplete (IMO); if someone knows other bands that aren't in this poll, they should choose "others" and then explain... |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 13:47
If you think MALICORNE should be in the list, you should pick up the option "Others" and explain why. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 13:50
For ginnyman: what kind of music do you like??? |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 13:51
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Who voted 56 times for TAI PHONG???
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 13:52
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Any ARACHNOID fan here??? I think their self-titled debut album is excellent!! What do you think? |
Posted By: Norm Cash
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:42
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avestin It's always a pleasure to pass on some info about a band to a fellow prog-head. As I mentioned in my review of Monet Vol I, I discovered XII Alfonso thanks to some correspondance I had with session guitarist Ian Bairnson. He pointed me towards a partial mp3 of a track he played on, and I liked what I heard. The album wasn't easy to get hold of, but I managed to track one down. It took a few listens to get into it, but after a while I came to enjoy it a lot. I went after the band's earlier material, and discovered that both The Lost Frontier and Odyssees were - how shall I put this - a bit less influenced by French folk/traditional music than the Monet disc. No surprise, as the Monet disc was the first of a trilogy of concept albums based on Monet's life and times, so it makes sense that the music will reflect that turn of the century feel. The earlier albums are also conceptual in their outlook. The Lost Frontier is influenced by medieval Northumbria and Hadrian's Wall in northern England, while Odyssees has a space travel theme. Unfortunately, the live album "This Is...." isn't particularly strong, but I tend not to hold weak live efforts against bands. The new Monet disc, Vol 2 1889-1904, carries on where Vol 1 left off, and if anything has drifted more towards the folk/trad influences. XII Alfonso's music is certainly hard to pin down. They are certainly NOT heavy at all, nor would I call them "folk-prog". You might say that their music is theatrical at times - more suited to stage production. However, you'll hear a very wide range of styles and influences throughout their albums. If your taste veers more towards melodic, softer prog rather than the prog metal side of things, XII Alfonso are well worth a listen. -------------
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:42
Oh yes! One of my favourites! Did they release anythng else? I thought their self-titled is the only one, am I correct???
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:45
nice to see the 10 votes for Kobaia also none in several days... 10 in 4 hours...------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:48
For what i know, they release just one (wonderful) album (sadly)!!! |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:49
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SAME THING AS DUN's "EROS"!!!
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:54
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Thanks Norm for that elaborate explanation Andrew and Micky, I suspect the sudden rise in votes is due to that @#$%@ ginnyman that probably had the need to bash the thread. As to Arachnoid, I heard a long time ago, but I have fond memories of it and I hope to reunite with this album someday soon ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:55
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Yep, just one release ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:58
hahaha.. didn't see that either  BTW... love all the recommends everyone... unfortunately don't have much to add.. but taking notes... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 17:58
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this kind of polls and threads are interesting, to know the likes of each one of us, why some people made a lot of votes, thats ridicolous, this isn´t the first time... dun - eros, 70 votes? what an asshole ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 18:07
You're right memo, this kind of persons should be sent away from the site!!! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 18:13
| Send a PM tot Bob, I just did so Bob can trace his rude comments! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 07 2006 at 07:19
Ok, next time do not make multiple voting polls _____________________________________ French Prog/ Four main currents (Gong which I consider french is not relly representative of French prog) Magma school: Zeuhl and clearly the greatest French group. Almost the only group that created a genre by itself Ange: A mix of symphonic and theatrical rock: classical at first (their first two were heavily leaning on genesis-type of symphonic rock) , original afterwards (from Au Delà Du Délire onwards , they used a very prominent vocal role and Descamp became the central figure even more than Gabriel was in genesis) and influential (prime achievment: they are mostly responsible for having many French groups trying it in the late 70's even though the mood for such music was on the fade out>> Shylock, Carpe Diem, Mona Lisa, Asia Minoer etc...) , but clearly not on the same level of greatness than Magma Lard Free, Heldon, Pinhas: the French side of Krautrock , these guys went far into their trip, and artistcally , they deserve to be the equal to Magma>>> My fave Malicorne and other folk prog groups such as Ripaille or Asgard and Tangerine. This is never really groundbreaking stuff , but always progresses along by updating trad stuff ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 07 2006 at 17:23
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glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks Oxygene is a masterpiece..
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 07:33
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Have you seen the votes??? Jean-Michel Jarre - Oxigene - 227 votes Tai Phong - Windows 121 votes Is it ginnyman???
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Posted By: Young
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 07:41
Probably is... Amazing that people have nothing better to do than vote hundreds of times on matters that don't really matter to them...How stupid. I love Oxygen, though I don't think its a masterpiece. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 07:43
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The guy who made this (221 votes) is really stupid!!!
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 12:23
qhy are you thinking of ginnyman??? well, i think he is too ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Olias
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 12:49
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Uff what a difficult poll! I really love Clearlight, early Ange, Sandrose and "..strands" by Pulsar. But it´s very necessarily to mention: XII Alphonse, Fugu, Taal and Drama Cheers... |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 08 2006 at 12:55
Alain markusfeld
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 14:31
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Which genre/subgenre he belongs??? |
Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 15:20
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Come on, people! Pulsar is awesome! Get voting for them! ------------- The world keeps spinning, people keep sinning And all the rest is just bullsh*t -Steve Kilbey |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 15:38
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"The Strands Of The Future" or "Halloween"??? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 09 2006 at 22:10
hopefully Halloween hahahha... that's the one I ordered... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: nanookanono
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 14:12
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Hi all, great poll here with nice references... Magma, Pulsar, Etron fou, Zao, Clearlight of course other main early bands which were on the road in the 70ees :
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 08:20
Merci Beaucoup nanookanono. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 08:59
Genre: Progressive Sub genre(s): Psyche/space prog with some singing which may remind of Ange, but in less theatral. The guitar is of course excellent, and can be hendrix-like at times. >>> Here's what says gepr.net: Markusfeld, Alain [France] Le Monde En Etages (70), Le Son Tombe Du Ciel (71), Le Desert Noir (77), Platock (78), Contemporus (79), Live (80) French guitarist/multi-instrumentalist, very unique. His albums blend multi-layered acoustic guitars with fiery leads, piano, ethereal female voices, throbbing bass and percussion. His guitar style could be described as early Larry Coryell (acoustic) meets Randy California (electric) with a strong middle-eastern influence. Le Desert Noir is a heavier guitar album which features drums on almost every track, overall very hendrix influenced. With Platock, there is more maturity in his sound, combining delicate acoustic guitars and more piano to his trademark sound, with less reliance on drums. Contemporus attempts to continue in the same vein, but fails to reach the same energy level, except possibly on the sidelong "Contemporus" suite. Start with Platock, which most will agree is his best. First two releases are very rare. |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:26
Thanks Oliver!!!
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