MILES DAVIS/In a silent way sessions
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Topic: MILES DAVIS/In a silent way sessions
Posted By: oliverstoned
Subject: MILES DAVIS/In a silent way sessions
Date Posted: October 29 2004 at 12:33
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I'm currently listening to the three-Cd of unrealesed versions of "In a silent way". It's really excellent as it's the very beggining of Jazz-rock movement. I think Miles has revolutionized jazz in the same way than the beatles have revolutionize "pop" music. I can see how much Soft Machine has been inspired by this genius.
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Posted By: jiggajake
Date Posted: October 29 2004 at 12:58
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i read about some pwning up with some advant garde, so check electric tears by buckethead, combo of both advant garde and miles davis |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 29 2004 at 16:07
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Yeah - I love Miles! "Bitches Brew" is currently my favourite - but I'm big on "Birth of the Cool" as well. Oddly, I'm not keen on "A Kind of Blue", although many people opine that's his best work. I also like "Bags Groove", but then I'm mad about Thelonius Monk. Jazz! Nice. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 29 2004 at 16:25
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Bitches brew I quite liked 'Sketches of Spain' too. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: October 29 2004 at 22:13
Sketches and Brew.... Miles broke it open. Cheers |
Blacksword wrote:Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: October 30 2004 at 05:05
Hello certified Yes, Kind of blue is considered by many to be the best jazz record ever. Yes, that's a great one, and for sure one of the very best. As a prog and jazz-rock lover, like you i'm found of "Bitches brew" like you, it's the fondator jazz-rock album. "The silent way sessions" is oddly much more close to "Bitches" than "In a silent way", so you would love it. Tht's why it evokes Soft machine... Or,rather, this is Soft machine which evokes Miles! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 30 2004 at 05:36
I'm a great Davis fan, and got introduced to his music hearing Pharoahs Dance off Bitches on BBC Radio One, the week of its release. However, I was listening to jazz rock at least 2 years before this album was released - and before In A Silent Way was released. You have to be careful with your chronological order here. As Danbo put it, Davis "broke it open" by exposing jazz-rock to a bigger audience - he wasn't the first. And lots of folks say Machine were influence by In Silent Way or Bitches Brew - however, Volume 2, the first Machine album to include jazz rock, was recorded before 1969, and Third, was recorded over the same period as Bitches Brew. And back in the 60's Machine stated their influences stemmed from Charlie Parker and John Coltrane. I've asked Hugh Hopper about the Davis influence, and he acknowledges some but it was not the main sort. Graham Bennett's biography on Soft Machine, based on thorough research by the author, will cover influences in great detail. And for an accurate sense of the chronology of jazz rock's development, I strongly recommended you read Stuart Nicholson's Jazz Rock: A History. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: October 30 2004 at 05:46
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Yes, you're absolutely right. Wyatt and company has been influenced primarly by Coltrane. And thanks for the book, i'll look at this |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: October 30 2004 at 11:54
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When looking back on the twentieth century, I think later generations
will point to Miles Davis as the chief innovator in modern music during
his lifetime. I have that 3 disc set, and its really good. The first disc is mostly material from Filles de Kilimanjaro, and the last disc is the In A Silent Way material, and its a wonderful collection to show the listener how he started making the jump from 60s post-bop jazz into the fusion realm. Although Bitches Brew reigns supreme as his fusion accomplishment, some other good fusion albums include Big Fun, Jack Johnson and the obscure On The Corner. The greatest thing about the Bitches Brew album though is that it contains the core members who would go on to form Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Tony William's Lifetime, and Return to Forever. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 30 2004 at 15:33
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Oh Yeah - I'd forgotten about "On the Corner" - what a great album! It really doesn't deserve it's obscurity, IMO. Heh! Trust Dick Heath to have all the really juicy facts - Keep 'em coming!! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 30 2004 at 20:32
Crazy old obsessive me!! Doing a radio show for over 20 years that is 40% new jazz (hence there's a lot of jazz rock played- hence obtained), I tend to keep my ear to ground, nose to the grind stone, eye on the road, toe to the line, knee in the groin and head in the cloud - so you can understand why I've become a bit of a warped person.... I'm a fact-gatherer and I do look for good books on the subjects I know something about but want to fill the gaps in. Some knowledge on the Soft Machine/Mile Davis parallel histories came about because two summers ago I wasn't sure either whether Third or Bitches Brew came first , (I fairly quickly discovered they were recorded at abou the same time - although I will admit one of the Miles Davis Live At Fillmore Hall CD doubles predates Bitches Brew but has 95% of that form of jazzrockfunk in place). So I wrote myself a Soft Machine discography for the period 1968 to 1972, and included recording/release dates of other notable jazz rock albums. The obsessive bit took over and I ended up with a much fuller Machine discography than I originally intend - i.e. nearly complete from Wilde Flowers to Soft Ware. Sourcing LPs, CDs, books, websites, Robert Wyatt's biography, and Pete Frames Rock Family Trees, I got to what I guess was about 95% of my info. I asked my "friend" Alan Freeman of Ultima Thule in Leicester, if he would check it out the electronic version I'd made. It appears he contacted Bran Hopper (Machine's unofficial historian and collector of clippings etc), who passed the file to Hugh who contacted me (out of the blue!!) and recommended I contact Graham Bennett. Bennett put me straight on several things, and revealed he was near completing a Soft Machine biography. I volunteered to proof read it once completed it and he accepted my offer - that what I did this last summer and that guy knows (watch out for the pun) miles more than I do. BTW a still incomplete (and with some of the errors Bennet pointed out still in place) Soft MAchine discography sits in this PC, possibly waiting a home. |