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Topic: Tool vs Pain of Salvation
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Tool vs Pain of Salvation
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 08:16

 I am just wondering who you people think is the better band ?   I`m going for Pain of Salvation BTW but I admit Tool are tough competition to be up against in a poll such as this  




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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 08:18

No direspect to Pain of Salvation,who I love and think are ONE of the best prog metal bands out right now...but no prog metal band beats Tool in my book.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 08:23
Both bands are great ...I think this should be close


Posted By: 46and2
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 08:31
I completely agree with progtologist, NOONE beats tool in my opinion.......


Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 08:32
PoS


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 09:03
Tool are decent, but PoS are way up there for me. Although neither are anything like so good as Kayo Dot or In the Woods, who I might just keep mentioning in every prog metal thread


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 09:07

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Tool are decent, but PoS are way up there for me. Although neither are anything like so good as Kayo Dot or In the Woods, who I might just keep mentioning in every prog metal thread

Both Kayo Dot and In the Woods are great bands,but might be a bit of an acquired taste for most of the prog metal fans out there.



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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 09:11
Pain Of Salvation!!


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 09:11

This was extreemely close but in the end I had to go for PoS as find there work more dynamic.

I wonder who Flossy will vote for



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Posted By: Gary the Ghoul
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 09:22
Tool is like a million times better
Tool is my second fav band


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 09:26
Originally posted by Gary the Ghoul Gary the Ghoul wrote:

Tool is like a million times better
Tool is my second fav band
   ???  ...   don`t worry I wont say nuffin  


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 09:27
Pain of Salvation. Tool are great ... and if they release two more brilliant albums, they might have a chance against PoS. But in my opinion PoS are simply the better band. On an album vs. album level it would be a tougher choice.

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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 11:43
2... hard.. arghh... can't... decide... MY BRAIN!!!!

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Posted By: Gary the Ghoul
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 15:19
Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by Gary the Ghoul Gary the Ghoul wrote:

Tool is like a million times better
Tool is my second fav band
   ???  ...   don`t worry I wont say nuffin  

what's stoppin' ya?


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 15:35

Why can't the poll read, "What band do you like better?" too subjective otherwise........

both great, unique in their own way!



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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 15:38
I love PoS, but I gotta say Tool, as I've never seen the former live.

When I saw Tool live for the first time in 1997, Maynard reached out, opened my skull, removed my brain, screamed at it, and handed it back to me. I had to walk back to my car after the show carrying it in my hands looking mighty dazed. I was that blown away. Easily the best live concert I've ever seen.



P.S. At the time, I had really not heard much Tool other than the radio songs and the band opened that night with Third Eye. What a mindf*&# of an initiation.


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Posted By: DualXP
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 15:38
tool obviously...

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 15:57

Originally posted by Nipsey88 Nipsey88 wrote:

I love PoS, but I gotta say Tool, as I've never seen the former live.

When I saw Tool live for the first time in 1997, Maynard reached out, opened my skull, removed my brain, screamed at it, and handed it back to me. I had to walk back to my car after the show carrying it in my hands looking mighty dazed. I was that blown away. Easily the best live concert I've ever seen.



P.S. At the time, I had really not heard much Tool other than the radio songs and the band opened that night with Third Eye. What a mindf*&# of an initiation.

I have seen them live quite a few times and it's always like that.Easily the best band I have ever seen live.And they were perfect every time I saw them.



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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 16:01
I like POS more but Tool is good too

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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 16:01
Tool


Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 17:14

Pain Of Salvation of course!

But its hard to compare



Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 17:50

We were all on edge wondering who Flossy and Jody were going to vote for.  On the other hand, I'm going to predictably vote for Dream Theater.  Whoops! That doesn't seem to be an option here.

I'm going to cast my vote for Pain of Salvation.  Tool's last two works have been nothing short of amazing, but I see a slight increase in quality from earlier works to more recent ones.  Pain of Salvation on the other hand has had amazing releases from Entropia to Be.  Tool has songs that a listener can easily identify as Tool, but Pain of Salvation on the other hand doesn't have as defined of a style, they seem to have much more variation from album to album.  Both of these bands have intelligent concepts in their albums along with innovative composing, but I'm going to give the edge to Pain of Salvation.



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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 17:50
Tool but only because I haven't heard P.O.S. As a lover of Tools music should I get P.O.S?Always open to new music suggestions.


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 18:08
Well of course PoS

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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 18:19
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Nipsey88 Nipsey88 wrote:

I love PoS, but I gotta say Tool, as I've never seen the former live.

When I saw Tool live for the first time in 1997, Maynard reached out, opened my skull, removed my brain, screamed at it, and handed it back to me. I had to walk back to my car after the show carrying it in my hands looking mighty dazed. I was that blown away. Easily the best live concert I've ever seen.



P.S. At the time, I had really not heard much Tool other than the radio songs and the band opened that night with Third Eye. What a mindf*&# of an initiation.

I have seen them live quite a few times and it's always like that.Easily the best band I have ever seen live.And they were perfect every time I saw them.



Yup, I've seen 'em numerous times since then and I wholeheartedly agree.

Can't wait for the new s*&%, should be upon us soon.


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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 18:35
Question for tool fans out there: I have been wanting to hear this band for a
while now but don't know where to start (I'm not really a prog metal fan with
the exception of dream theater.) I've heard that their beginning albums are
not as well thought out and impressive. Any thoughts on a good intro?

P.S. With the majority of the bands I listen to I like to go chronilogically.
Would this be a mistake buying tool's first album?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 21:36
Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

Tool but only because I haven't heard P.O.S. As a lover of Tools music should I get P.O.S?Always open to new music suggestions.
I think you definatly should give Pain of Salvation a go !


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 01:21

Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

Question for tool fans out there: I have been wanting to hear this band for a
while now but don't know where to start (I'm not really a prog metal fan with
the exception of dream theater.) I've heard that their beginning albums are
not as well thought out and impressive. Any thoughts on a good intro?

P.S. With the majority of the bands I listen to I like to go chronilogically.
Would this be a mistake buying tool's first album?

Their first release is an ep called Opiate.That and their first studio album,Undertow just isn't quite as complex,and a little more straight forward,compared to the next two releases that followed it.I would start with Aenima and then move on to the brilliant Lateralus album.



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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 01:32
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

Question for tool fans out there: I have been wanting to hear this band for a
while now but don't know where to start (I'm not really a prog metal fan with
the exception of dream theater.) I've heard that their beginning albums are
not as well thought out and impressive. Any thoughts on a good intro?

P.S. With the majority of the bands I listen to I like to go chronilogically.
Would this be a mistake buying tool's first album?

Their first release is an ep called Opiate.That and their first studio album,Undertow just isn't quite as complex,and a little more straight forward,compared to the next two releases that followed it.I would start with Aenima and then move on to the brilliant Lateralus album.

Yes but then go back to the other 2. I love the rawness of them and its good to compare

 Paul D'amour to Justin Chancellors bass playing.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 08:32
Pain of salvation


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 08:39
Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

Question for tool fans out there: I have been wanting to hear this band for a
while now but don't know where to start (I'm not really a prog metal fan with
the exception of dream theater.) I've heard that their beginning albums are
not as well thought out and impressive. Any thoughts on a good intro?

P.S. With the majority of the bands I listen to I like to go chronilogically.
Would this be a mistake buying tool's first album?

Their first release is an ep called Opiate.That and their first studio album,Undertow just isn't quite as complex,and a little more straight forward,compared to the next two releases that followed it.I would start with Aenima and then move on to the brilliant Lateralus album.

Yes but then go back to the other 2. I love the rawness of them and its good to compare

 Paul D'amour to Justin Chancellors bass playing.

Oh yes,definitely go back and listen to their earlier work.

I was just recommending their most progressive work.

And I prefer Chancellor's playing to D'amour's.



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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 14:47
Pain of Salvation

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Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 07:22

I don't really like Pain of Salvation , but Tool I don't like at all.

PoS then.



Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 11:25
PoS is good, but Tool is just the all around better band in pretty much every way.

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Posted By: mattuati
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 11:29
PAIN OF SALVATION.  The deciding factor was the vocals.  Better vocals in PAin of Salvation.

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Posted By: D.Noisserger
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 11:49
PoS for me.... but Tool follow with few!

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Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 12:54

TOOL



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Posted By: Faaip_De_Oiad
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 03:53
Tool by Far!

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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 05:54

It's a matter of taste, of course, but all in all this poll is ridiculous.

What about poll "Which band is better?" ABBA or Sex Pistols ???

 



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 06:09
What about this poll: "Stating the obvious vs. Silence is golden"?

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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 06:39

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

What about this poll: "Stating the obvious vs. Silence is golden"?

I can tell you - what is obvious for one, can be a complete mystery for others; and silence is not always golden.

And another thing - polls like "favourite length" and "most important organ" already demonstrate low level of discussions at the forum, and now someone tries to compare uncomparable.

Wonder what's next...



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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 06:47

^^^

I agree with you. But this is why there are certain threads I refrain from going into, since I do not subscribe to the logic behind them. Instead I focus mainly on threads dedicated to learning new bands, albums or to answer others questions about bands.

Can't really decide between the two. No real relationship, no base for comparison. Love them both, why choose?



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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 07:22
Pain of Salvation definitely

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 07:36
Originally posted by eugene eugene wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

What about this poll: "Stating the obvious vs. Silence is golden"?

I can tell you - what is obvious for one, can be a complete mystery for others; and silence is not always golden.

And another thing - polls like "favourite length" and "most important organ" already demonstrate low level of discussions at the forum, and now someone tries to compare uncomparable.

Wonder what's next...

I was just trying to say that the best way to keep such threads from taking over the forum is simply not to post in them. After all, even a "negative" post like "I don't like this thread" will push the thread back to the top of the list.

Having said that: I don't think that this thread is so bad - but next time please add more options (like for example "Cannot be compared").



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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 07:47

This thread is not bad. I understand people's need for comparisons and contests and the need to decide which is the best. I do not have such a burning need, but sometimes I can relate to it. The bad threads here are much, much worse... and without any taste at all.



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Posted By: moonlitbay
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 07:55
My brain hurts!

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Posted By: moonlitbay
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 07:56
Both bands are great, but my personal favourite is PoS. Their Remedy Lane kicks everythings ass!!!



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 18:20
tool are disgraceful ;)


Posted By: helofloki
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 18:21
My two favorite bands vs. eachother... but Pain of Salvation wins. they're so amazing.


Posted By: Oxygen Waster
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 18:25

Pretty Close on this should be Eh?

My vote goes to TOOL but they are both so unique and each have qualities that make me want to vote for them each but my Inner feeling point to TOOL.



Posted By: Prog-man
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 01:13

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

2... hard.. arghh... can't... decide... MY BRAIN!!!!

        THE SAME!!!...

BUT I VOTE FOR PAIN OF SALVATION... I THINK THAT I ENJOY THEIR MUSIC A BIT MORE... Embarrassed

 



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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 10:23

Tool

 



Posted By: White Feather
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 10:37
Pain of Salvation



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