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The most enigmatic record for me

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Topic: The most enigmatic record for me
Posted By: totalski
Subject: The most enigmatic record for me
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 20:51

Hi all! I'm a new member, don't know it is right place to tell you my story. Five years ago someone gave me a Cd-record.There is no even one word on it, but music is fantastic - pure early art/progressive rock with some elements of psychodelia. I know all this famous prog. groups of seventies. Even if I heard something new for me, some friend allways help me to discover "what it is". That time it was imposible. For five years I hear great music, don't know what is it.

About music: Very good known sounds - Organ sounds like JON LORD, sometimes reminds me ROD ARGENT; Chorns - (2 sax's?) sounds like COLOSSEUM (some harmonies are similar to "Valentine Suite") or even CHASE; Flute - betwen IAN ANDERSON and IAN MCDONALD ("In the Court of Crimson...") but sudenly the lead instrument become Mouth Harmonica. Incredible! To all of this Guitar & Acoustic Guitar and Vocals from late 60-s. In vocal some choirs sounds to me like MOODY BLUES or CROSBY,STILS & NASH. But the most characteristic things is in two words "Colosseum I + harmonica".

As you see english is not my language so I can't say something about lyrics (maybe one track is titled "What Is Love", but I'm not sure). All this month I trying to find any information to help me to know this enigma. Maybe You know something about  helpful site or forum, where people dicovered "enigma albums"? Maybe You got any idea what is a name of the group ?

Thanks for any answers!

P.S. Almost forgot - to all this instrumentarium at the end is Violin solo.




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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: October 27 2004 at 06:55
very intriguing...


Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 27 2004 at 07:32

Sorry it doesn't sound familiar to me. I thought for a moment that it might be 'The Mahavisnu Orchestra' but then you mentioned vocals and lyrics so it can't be them.

Anyway, welcome to the forums.



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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: October 27 2004 at 07:47
Uli John Roth - Electric Sun?


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 27 2004 at 08:34

Sorry it doesn't sound familiar to me. I thought for a moment that it might be 'The Mahavisnu Orchestra' but then you mentioned vocals and lyrics so it can't be them.

Uli John Roth - Electric Sun?

Sorry gents but the brass and woodwind plus the reference to Chase,  suggest early brass rock, although the harp -  have people stopped using this term for the harmonica???????? -  eliminates bands like If and Chicago. So I suggest the first Blood Sweat Tears album, The Child Is Father To The Man (or some such convoluted 60's title).  A second and even longer shot: John Mayall and the Bluesbreaker's Bare Wires- which has the organ, harp and brass woodwind backing

Outside heavy rock, blues and Chicago style R'n'B recordings plus certain 3 minute single hits (e.g. that song on sexual pleasures: My Boy Lollipop), the harp isn't that common as a lead instrument. I have to think hard for examples: Country Joe and the Fish's Section 43. the opening track on Steve Miller's Sailor, Toots Thielmann playing on some of Jaco Pastorius's solo albums.......... I've run out of ideas.



Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: October 27 2004 at 12:53

An idea:

Sweet smoke/From Darkness to light

A very good and PURE PROG album (from an excellent and under-rated band)

Complete Just a Poke cover

 

Check also Sweet smoke Live 74'

One of my personal favourite



Posted By: totalski
Date Posted: October 28 2004 at 19:04

Thanks all for interest. I think it is any of well known bands (maybe it's even some "one record wonder" from Finland or Hungry,I trying to check it). I know Chicago, Mahavishnu or Blood... But by turns: It is less experimental then Mahavishnu; BS&T - in songs of "band X" I don't hear any blues or r'n'b influences. Chicago - only harmony vocals and ending of one song (perc. cogas instruments like in "I'm a Man") reminds me this band. Uli John Roth - to bluesy, to "guitar" and to "hardsang" for it. Guitar on "my record" is most often in second plan and acoustic. Few tracks as seen without guit. (as in early Rare Bird). Harmonicas solos are only in 2 or 3 songs. The foreground is solos of Hammond organ (by the way there is no mellotrons or moogs- nothing called "electonica") and flute (maybe flutes, sometimes very jazzy, sometimes it's in Focus style). And almost in all tracks the melodic line and mean theme is exhibited by sax (Dick H-Smith style). Sweet Smoke is nearly,nearly (when I saw peronel and titles I was very happy) and vocal harmonies are in the same style, but it's another band. Similar sound to band "X" I hear in songs of Baberuth and Wetton's Mogul Thrash, but style people called Canterbury Scene got blues roots and is more ambitious in music and lyrics( I'think). On the end of my "elaborat" a piece of lyrics ( if I understand it):

"For? the morning sun rises like the firewall: Sunrise warm up the wings of my little Eve?; Now she wants to tell everybody how to feel free, but nobody listening as you saw?" All lyrics are in that style (hippie or christian). "Come on, join together" etc. etc. Maybe somebody recognized it. Thanks to all. Wish You Good Music



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 29 2004 at 04:58
Originally posted by totalski totalski wrote:

Similar sound to band "X" I hear in songs of Baberuth and Wetton's Mogul Thrash, but style people called Canterbury Scene got blues roots and is more ambitious in music and lyrics( I'think).

 

 

Canterbury and blues, probably leaves only Carol Grimes Delivery - and I trying to determine if the likes of Lol Coxhill played sax for them???

 

In passing, I've  never heard of Mogul Thrash being called  Wetton's Mogul Thrash - John Wetton was a relative youngster when he was invited to join them. No instead it was former Colosseum guitarist/vocalist James Litherland's project. (BTW when is the Progarchives potted biography on Colosseum, going to be corrected and Litherland's name included as one of the band's original members!?)




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